Interesting Aztec artifacts (if they are real)

[bozadi]

Obviously very dubious but I wanted to share and have opinions:

_http://mysteriousearth.net/2016/09/19/disclosure-of-classified-x-documents-and-archaeological-aztec-origin-objects-found-in-ojuelos-de-jalisco-mexico/

 

[bozadi]

They look too "gray" to be real. Probably a modern work on aged stones. I hope it is clarified soon.

 

[Phill4]

It does look fake to me, It looks too perfect. And very well polished for an aged stone.

On the other hand, alot of the american history before the conquest is a mystery, they conquerors were very invested in destroying everything records, art, and history. It is likey they had a history similar to any othe civilization with all kinds if "celestial interventions" here and there, then wiped out then brought back again.


In my opinion even the civilization at the point in time of the conquest had little to no reference to their own pre-history. Just miths and tales, had they had any advanced technology or knowledge they would have done all kinds of things, maybe even, discover Europe...

 

[bozadi]

Thank you for your input, Felipe4.

When I made more search through the net, I found that the claims about these findings is not new. They have been discussed on the web since 2011-2012, at least. There are references to the Mexican and Guatemalan governments, Nassim Haramein, a documentary-maker named Raul Julia-Levy, and some others. I don't know if these are distractions or what.

But then I came across some interviews made with some people who appear to claim that they found the pieces. I think these videos are more explanatory about the story of the artifacts. But they are in Spanish, I think, and it would be good if someone tries to understand and tell us what is told in these videos or in any one of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwPIDROnFWU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1Bj1Rd-Hrw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeQiG5LHc0s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtEb91EkO5E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JJ_kqKyd4A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzIkQaosRRU

 

[Eulenspiegel]

They look interesting but highly dubious to me. If they were real, they'd probably have turned up in one of the presentations/exhibitions of Klaus Donna, as he's big on collecting and verifying such out of place artifacts.

 

[bozadi]

They look interesting but highly dubious to me. If they were real, they'd probably have turned up in one of the presentations/exhibitions of Klaus Donna, as he's big on collecting and verifying such out of place artifacts.

He seems to have carried out a research and is suspicious about them.

A website, on which a few of the same objects are shown, says:

Many objects have been taken home by the finders, and are now decorating living rooms in the region. But there are so many of them, that new pieces are still being found regularly. One farmer found no less than 3,000 artifacts in a cave. Several of them were sent to the Austrian artifacts researcher, Klaus Dona, who also did research on them (7).

Dona concluded that of those 3,000 objects, 2,500 are made of stone, varying in size from about a medallion to 20 inches (8). The rest are made from kaolin, a clay-mineral that nowadays is used for making ceramics and fireproof materials. Other uses for it are fillings for glue and paint, as a coating for high-quality paper, and even as a cure for diarrhea.

No two pieces are alike. Many objects have a thin layer of patina, but when Dona wet it, to his own surprise, it came off easily. He then thought it was fake, but according to an expert he consulted, this was appropriate. When the machining process isn't exactly used as it should be, the sheen can be washed away from kaoline, by sunlight or moisture. Even after hundreds of years.

To make the story even more baffling, among the 3,000 artifacts in the cave a crystal skull was also discovered.

Besides, on a youtube video of a conference by Mr. Dona, he presents some of the same objects as well as others and make a few comments on them. But the sound of the video is very poor to me, and I have difficulty understanding what exactly he says about them or their authenticity.

I snapped the following images from the conference video. You can click each one of them to view bigger versions:

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Edit: I deleted duplicate images.

 

[Cosmos]

Yes, Dona talked about some artifacts that look pretty similar in the past. In fact some seem to be the same artifacts.

Here is the relevant portion in the "Klaus Dona: Artifacts of unknown civilizations" thread:

another video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1ldsd0jQvw
I have to repeat myself here again and say; fascinating !

in the end you can also see more objects that were found by the farmer wich I explained in my previous post:

I found a new video (unfortunately only in german)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFr5oTiFRPw

fascinating as always !
all that stuff that he discovers and discovered should be available in one book, I mean almost every object is in itself a world sensation !

a collection from south america discovered by a farmer on his property wich contains over 3000 objects.some objects are inlaid with gold and gemstones. the objects show things that look like UFO's, human like creatures with longer skulls and different eyes etc. he sent some of those pictures to two physicist and they were shocked becouse some of the graphics on those objects show things that our civilisation discovered only 5 years ago. who ever made those objects knew about star constellations, sun eruptions, black holes etc. some objects seem to show cataclysms and prevented cataclysms.(Picture 3,4,5)

Picture 3:

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Picture 5:

Edit: refreshed pictures

I've looked from time to time if more informations about the test results came up about those artefacts, since, as far as I know, Dona wasn't sure of their authenticity either and thus wanted to test them first. Never heard of it again from Dona since then, so it might be faked or not. Interestingly, as far as I know,Nassim Haramein was closely involved in either the discovery of those artifacts and/or their first public presentation.

 

[bozadi]

Thank you, Pashalis, I wish I had noticed the Klaus Dona thread before. And, yes, Dona and Haramein appear on a presentation about some of the artifacts in a YT video.

So many artifacts full of gray aliens, ufos and many other interesting themes! (supposing at least some of them are authentic.) I now suspect that many of the objects can be authentic but those who wanted to publicize them officially or to have them analyzed for authenticity and announcement have come under a serious pressure. Of course, it is not certain yet and I hope it is elucidated.

 

[Cosmos]

Thank you, Pashalis, I wish I had noticed the Klaus Dona thread before. And, yes, Dona and Haramein appear on a presentation about some of the artifacts in a YT video.

So many artifacts full of gray aliens, ufos and many other interesting themes! (supposing at least some of them are authentic.) I now suspect that many of the objects can be authentic but those who wanted to publicize them officially or to have them analyzed for authenticity and announcement have come under a serious pressure. Of course, it is not certain yet and I hope it is elucidated.

They certainly look "to good to be true", but until a real scientific investigation is carried out on them an the circumstances of their "discovery," their usefulness for any kind of conclusion or investigation into the past, remains in the dark.

Doesn't mean there are fake though, just that we don't have enough data to say it definitively one way or the other.

 

[Faith]

Hello everyone :) I just want to share this video I find very fascinating about different artifacts Klaus Dona describes. The first link leads to a video excerpt about artifacts with strange material properties like engravings that shine under black light and elements that are magnetic in a specific way. The other excerpt shows tools made of lydite, a very hard stone, that has been sculptured like it was clay, pointing to some mysterious craftsmanship. According to Dona these artifacts are authentic. In the other video excerpts there is for example a stone instrument that is tuned to brain wave frequency.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhTRtczqgj0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP0jJflKoDc