Interesting quote on pathology

Thanks for the answers which are kind of diplomatic; I was expecting a harsher communication.

To me, PM's fall into the category of not-that-reccomended. Voyageur and TC hint at vorbidden. Is it really vorbidden? I had "not-preferred" in mind.

I estimate PM'ing can participate from a healthy process and that they are sometimes good to be used. It's not a 100% nogo in terms of polarity. Methink can not apply a negative consideration going by "each time a user sends a PM". I perfectly understand the risks, especially in the light of "hey let's meet in real". There are, indeed, dangers in PM's. On that note, in one year, I perhaps PM'd 3 people or so. This time, I estimated it would be good than to use this channel, instead of writing my message in the thread. This hints at proper use rather than a defect.

@Voyageur yes there is a problem with the thread and the topic. So far, there have been no comment relating to the quote that I've posted. Not that I am expecting anything, but that I can see this right now. The discussion even turned to another aspect. No comment on the quote. Zilch! It is painful to absolutely let go off expectations in terms of potential comments, on the quote. Difficult, but must do it. Painful, frustrating. I will keep the hope that this is an interesting matter, susceptible to raise interesting and wide discussions! But - no comment =... no comment! Let us move on with this, instead of personnal preferences.

In regard of my attitude and actions, I see you've come up with conclusions, and those are clear. I don't agree with those and oppose (in teh sense of the word) myself to your conclusions and judgment.

I created a post, quoting Harrison Koehli, and suggesting the discussion. Gottathink came by, correcting one word that were part of a digression. He then suggested me to head up to the ponerology Substack when it comes to ponerology matters... "You should have a look at the ponerology blog of Harrison Koehli" :wow:

I think, since that moment, my ears started tingeling. It can still be a sincere and positive suggestion, and I appreciate it. But since that time I started to think like "wait a second... something looks odd here". And then, other small possible things came up. I let go, have been applying a "innocence presomption", until I've sent him a PM because it was a bit too obvious. Then, him posting about the PM has been acting as a sort of confirmation. Overall nothing too much but worth the exploration IMO. We are all on the road, and it's okay. I myself have flaws and things etc etc.

I believe the forum is sometimes pushing too much for a sort of public "procedure of self-humiliation". Reasons exist, and it's of course suffering, un-necessary prejudice - but I don't want to submit to this when I am being "asked" to carry it on. I hope we can make the forum a better place. It won't be of any help than to adress issues that are not real issues. I believe it's best than to stop chanelling via Zoom, and to have that many members. I appreciate the honour that such participation provides, but results may be different.

There were very few - VERY few - individuals who ever "attended many of the C" sessions. I can count them on the fingers of ONE hand. The reason for this has been made quite clear on the site: any individual with strong beliefs or emotional attachment to same, could easily skew the reception. We learned this quite early on.

The chanelling will condition the spiritual health of the whole forum. I am a leftover of a long process, adapting to it, and depending on it, and am diluted far away in obscure threads, merely juggling with secondary-mode ricochets, originating in the first place in big motions located at the chanelling efforts. The acceptance of my position makes it easier for me to discern when it really comes to me, or else. I don't know what the else is. Voyageur, you hinted at deflection, but I don't have the need to carry this on. I don't matter that much and accepted this. I prefer to discuss topics!
 
And the conscience, upon observing, will tell who is bad and who is good.

And there is no unanimity, since there are two polarities.

Interesting, isn't it?:-D
Wandering Star, your previous posts have ben prophetic. From this consideration, we may be about to stare at a not-that-clear exchange, based on the metaphysic of "good" / "bad :-)

there is no unanimity
observing, will tell who is bad and who is good

I see the hammer of justice trying to fall... an (impartial?) observer... no unanimity ultimately
 
I believe the forum is sometimes pushing too much for a sort of public "procedure of self-humiliation". Reasons exist, and it's of course suffering, un-necessary prejudice - but I don't want to submit to this when I am being "asked" to carry it on. I hope we can make the forum a better place. It won't be of any help than to adress issues that are not real issues. I believe it's best than to stop chanelling via Zoom, and to have that many members. I appreciate the honour that such participation provides, but results may be different.

Learning to take criticism on board without reacting is a sign that one is doing the Work - to be able to stop and say, 'Whoa, I don't know myself - maybe this feedback is a great gift' even when it feels like an insult or an attack. In reality, it's only an insult to one's self-importance, or an attack on one's ignorance. If we fight for our limitations, then that is all we will be.

In the quote above, it seems you don't understand the vital importance of this. The principle of networking for Soul growth means, at times, being confronted with your own missteps, bad attitude and unconscious beliefs. We do not know ourselves, and must rely on others to see our blind spots and help us wake up through conscious shocks. In essence, you're admitting that you don't want to learn.

I suggest you leave ponerology alone for now. Focus on the recommended psychology readings. How many of the titles have you read from the list?
 
Learning to take criticism on board without reacting is a sign that one is doing the Work - to be able to stop and say, 'Whoa, I don't know myself - maybe this feedback is a great gift' even when it feels like an insult or an attack. In reality, it's only an insult to one's self-importance, or an attack on one's ignorance. If we fight for our limitations, then that is all we will be.

Your post is interesting as it sums up some big basic. You present a basic way of operating on the forum, in responsa to my post that has been highlighting a corruption or a wrong use of it.

Your comment, aimed at describing a basic, lacks the mention of exceptions (around the process, uphill, meanwhile and downstream). It's never black and white and there exist multiple variations and roads. In other words, it's not all the time a matter of

In the quote above, it seems you don't understand the vital importance of this.

Reading your teaching without explanations of variants, amounts to a monolithic road. You seem able to find matches, in my attitude, when tapping in the restricted framework. It will of course fall back into negative. Concluding, then judgment.

I don't feel eager to "list"specific readings, to a person who evaluated me in the terms you've used. After all, this is sane and a matter of dignity, not to engage with a person that has a negative view on yourself. If you wanted to participate in knowledge, I would direct you to the very first quote, that is the matter of this thread, and discuss it. I don't believe your suggestion to leave ponerology is a conclusion you could possibly come up with.

Just a note in regard of the quote on channelling, so that people don't get me wrong: I personally estimate Laura to perhaps be the most important person in the world. The quote could be interpreted as a will to carry on prejudice, and people may believe that this has been my intention. I am rather highlighting an element that would be worth exploring, and, quoting it, participates from a consideration of her being the utmost top relevant person - for all 8and that i like it and respect it). It would be wrong IMO not to adress issues that could lead to empowerment and benefits, related to her specific role & position.
 
To me, PM's fall into the category of not-that-reccomended. Voyageur and TC hint at vorbidden. Is it really vorbidden? I had "not-preferred" in mind.

I estimate PM'ing can participate from a healthy process and that they are sometimes good to be used. It's not a 100% nogo in terms of polarity. Methink can not apply a negative consideration going by "each time a user sends a PM". I perfectly understand the risks, especially in the light of "hey let's meet in real". There are, indeed, dangers in PM's. On that note, in one year, I perhaps PM'd 3 people or so. This time, I estimated it would be good than to use this channel, instead of writing my message in the thread. This hints at proper use rather than a defect.

It really makes no difference what your opinion is about it. It’s not your forum. We’re telling you not to do it.

If you want to be a ponerologist, start by examining your own character defects. That, in a nutshell, is what you agreed to do by confirming that you read and understood the Terms and Rules when you made your account.
 
It really makes no difference what your opinion is about it
It is always hard than to face a seemingly "legal" "force" telling you that you would have to comply. I appreciate the due spirit in the bold comment that you've just decided to write.

Matter being that this comes from a common member, first, and that I've recently had a conversation with an administrator, who told me that PM'ing was "discouraged". Result being that I see your comment under another light. It's pretty wrong.

So - you see - what you tell me, too, does not matter at all, at this stage, in thsi context. I appreciate to read from you and on other topics, but here I cannot consider your words, especially since they are too daring and too bold. I mean - go tell a person "your opinion does not matter".

We see, here, that this only engages yourself, so that my opinion does not matter... but to you only. I think it does not engage forum members and others. Eh - feeling for power and the ability to "make points". This is not enough, I am afraid, and you have been trespassing some holy & normal boundaries.

If you want to be a ponerologist
Who said that?

start by examining your own character defects
Who said I did not?

Please consider you don't have the answer to those questions, and that you are presenting those as "facts". It is not okay to do so and I prefer to tell you who I am if this is something that you would like to know. Is it the case or are you trying to get at a point, meaning that you wouldn't consider another's opinion???

This is bugging - seems all have been trying to get at this stage, to hit a sort of pinata, after having successfully cornered a person... Then attributing one self the legit to mute the other person's opinion.

It really makes no difference what your opinion is about it

I see a pattern here and this looks like a bit what others are doing. Getting the last word.

Know that I am not closed to further discussion but this no-go, I-know-it-best, messages, are energy consuming. Perhaps there is a better way. Example: when I tell you "I had in mind that PM'ing was discouraged", correct courtesy would amount to "I think it's wrong and that ... because ...". Never that war-axe you've dared to write me. You are not there to discuss but to heighten yourself. That is not good.
 
@SOTTREADER

I thought I had been clear

I have been requesting an assessment of my exchange with gottathink, to an admin, and I feel that it would be best for you (and others who feel tempted to do the work of God) than to start up with this step

In other words - what's your comment? Are you really eager to know my age? But - why? Since when do you suddenly become interested in knowing my age?

I could answer you, un less your comment participates from a sort of what some would erroneously label "networking impulse".

So tell me if you really want to know, and the reasons that you're asking. I find this odd to see a lone comment with a person asking me what's my age.
 
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