Interesting Videos....

Ninas

Jedi
Hello!

I didn't know where to post these videos clips and links but felt I should share them, they are on various topics .... enjoy !  :thup:


_http://www.democracynow.org/2008/11/18/an_hour_with_bolivian_president_evo]
_http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1997/09/970918045841.htm]http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1997/09/970918045841.htm[/url]
_http://www.prisonplanet.com/paulson-was-behind-bailout-martial-law-threat.html]
_http://www.evtv1.com/player.aspx?itemnum=12959
_http://www.evtv1.com/player.aspx?itemnum=7305
_http://www.evtv1.com/player.aspx?itemnum=7222
_http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2007/08/01/occupation-101-video-watch-while-available-over-18-only/]
_http://www.snagfilms.com/films/title/the_end_of_america/
_http://www.blacklistednews.com/news-1319-0-10-10--.html
_http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/423.html
_http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/319.html
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjALf12PAWc
_http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/395.html
_http://www.prismagems.com/castaneda/donjuan7.html]
_http://www.prismagems.com/castaneda/
_http://slackeruprising.com/download/
_http://www.democracynow.org/2007/9/17/the_shock_doctrine_naomi_klein_on
http://www.naomiklein.org/shock-doctrine/video-audio
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG9CM_J00bw
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKr_soG4DUA&feature=related
 
:cry: The web contain thousands of interesting videos. Posting link without any title or small explanation is presumptuous.
 
Ninas,

It is lacking in external consideration to just post links to videos without explaining why anyone should take the time and energy to watch them.  Please be more considerate.  Also,
please do not post live links to known disinformation sources.  Also, please search the forum for 'Alex Jones' and 'Montalk' before posting more links to those sites.  The Montalk link was removed.  The other links were deactivated as well, simply because of the time it would take to investigate whether each one is or is not disinformation.  

Since this is not a 'chat room', it really is important to not post noise and to be externally considerate when posting information of any kind.
 
Ellipse said:
:cry: The web contain thousands of interesting videos. Posting link without any title or small explanation is presumptuous.


I copied the videos and links in this thread "What's on your mind" precisely because I didn't think that an explanation was needed.
All anyone interested had to do was click and find out. That's why I specifically stated that they were on "various topics" and I would
have to include a long drawn out explanation for each; when it's easier to just see for yourself.
I thought I would save everyone the time and hassle, but I guess I was wrong.

Now, as to the "presumptuous" part, that wasn't my intention at all! :oops:



anart said:
Ninas,

It is lacking in external consideration to just post links to videos without explaining why anyone should take the time and energy to watch them. Please be more considerate. Also,
please do not post live links to known disinformation sources. Also, please search the forum for 'Alex Jones' and 'Montalk' before posting more links to those sites. The Montalk link was removed. The other links were deactivated as well, simply because of the time it would take to investigate whether each one is or is not disinformation.

Since this is not a 'chat room', it really is important to not post noise and to be externally considerate when posting information of any kind.


Anart,

I respect your decision but don't agree. I will reiterate what was written before, all you have to do is click on the links to find out what it concerns and
obviously the time and energy was taken to watch them because you deactivated all but one link.

I am well aware that this isn't a 'chat room', but why would you have a thread that states ""What's on your mind" if I can't post what's on my mind? :huh:

I understand that some of these links maybe disinformation and I will research 'Alex Jones' and 'Montalk' but not all the links are 'disinfo' and you may be

doing a disservice to other people by not allowing them to discern for themselves.... :thdown:
 
Hi Ninas,

I copied the videos and links in this thread "What's on your mind" precisely because I didn't think that an explanation was needed.

Why so? Do you think that just because you throw some links in a post, people should find them interesting?
If you put no effort in your post, why should we put effort to go through all these links which you haven't even watched critically, as some may be disinformation?
It shows lack of consideration for your readers and for this forum.

All anyone interested had to do was click and find out. That's why I specifically stated that they were on "various topics" and I would have to include a long drawn out explanation for each; when it's easier to just see for yourself.

It's easier for YOU, as you don't have to go through the "long drawn" explanation.
Anyone, even a bot, can post links in a post. This is a forum here : what we're interested in is your own thoughts about it. Even a small description would have been a sign of consideration for the readers.

I thought I would save everyone the time and hassle, but I guess I was wrong.

it saved YOU time and hassle.

I respect your decision but don't agree. I will reiterate what was written before, all you have to do is click on the links to find out what it concerns.

I am well aware that this isn't a 'chat room', but why would you have a thread that states ""What's on your mind" if I can't post what's on my mind? :huh:

What's on your mind : thoughts, ideas, reflexions on a subject. This is a forum, not a chat, as has been said. So, all you have in your mind is a list of links ? :scared:
 
Prayers for rain said:
Hi Ninas,

I copied the videos and links in this thread "What's on your mind" precisely because I didn't think that an explanation was needed.

Why so? Do you think that just because you throw some links in a post, people should find them interesting?
If you put no effort in your post, why should we put effort to go through all these links which you haven't even watched critically, as some may be disinformation?
It shows lack of consideration for your readers and for this forum.

Exactly. Ninas, please also read the rules of the forum. http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=9553.0

You are posting noise and being rude while doing so. There are many, many forums in which you can behave this way - this is not one of them, so perhaps you would be happier elsewhere.
 
Hello Ninas, I dare not speak for others, but I would like to offer my perception of how posting works on this forum...

ninas said:
... but not all the links are 'disinfo' ...
Many here read,research,talk, and read,research,talk more. This could be viewed as a virtual classroom where much can be discussed. I haven't seen many who stand up & say "this is" or "that is", without hard data attempting to back up their claim. I remember a particular math teacher from my youth who would not accept an answer without seeing the WORK used in reaching the result. Could you explain your reason(s) as to which sites are not disinfo.? Never say never because, if all is possible, you may be correct. How can one "prove" anything without "proof"? I do not think there are many "here" who will believe anything just because someone says so.

If the links can be cut and pasted, (which I do time to time), how can this be that ...
ninas said:
... you may be doing a disservice to other people by not allowing them to discern for themselves.... ...

The statement aboves lends suggestion that discernment can be arrived by an individual with outside influences. Just me here, but I do not trust all my perceptions, if at all. I enjoy the views of others. Sometimes others may offer a new view of perception that just HAS TO BE investigated. This is a forum where you can throw your "research" out into the public for critcal analysis. The amazing and fun thing for me is the excitement of discovery. But also, the other side of the coin is the anger/fear/denial one may experience when one begins to see a flash that their perceptions may be an error, and that perhaps, just perhaps, one has been LIED to all their life.
 
Why so? Do you think that just because you throw some links in a post, people should find them interesting?
If you put no effort in your post, why should we put effort to go through all these links which you haven't even watched critically, as some may be disinformation?
It shows lack of consideration for your readers and for this forum.


Wait, just hold on a second. This is getting blown way out of proportion...

I don't assume that people will find the links interesting, I'm very well aware that what's interesting to me may not be so for other people.
I just felt the need to share, to network. My intention was sincere, even though the end result wasn't accomplished, that was, for people to enjoy the videos.

Why would you presume that I haven't watched them critically? Had I not done so, and thought they were pertinent to the thread " what's on your mind",
I wouldn't have posted them. I do agree that some, like the ones Anart was kind of enough to point out, may be disinformation but I didn't know they were,
until it was pointed out, that's why I said I would do a search on them.. :shock:


Posted by: anart

Exactly. Ninas, please also read the rules of the forum. http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=9553.0

You are posting noise and being rude while doing so. There are many, many forums in which you can behave this way - this is not one of them, so perhaps you would be happier elsewhere.


Forum Guidelines

Three: Don't spam, just don't. It will be deleted almost immediately, so it's a waste of time. Spamming means sending multiple meaningless posts. If you don't have anything beneficial or informative to say, don't just join in for nothin'. Posts deemed by the moderators (who have experience with this, by the way) to be "noise" will be deleted.


If you feel that I've been rude, I apologize. It is not and was never my intention to offend anyone on this forum.
I wasn't aware that my posts were viewed as "noise" and deemed "meaningless"....
 
ninas said:
I don't assume that people will find the links interesting, I'm very well aware that what's interesting to me may not be so for other people.

Then why would you post them? Most especially, why would you post them without an in-depth explanation of why you posted them and why you find them interesting? It is not as if this forum is like a 'myspace' page, where you can just post what you want since it interests you, whether or not it will interest anyone else.

ninas said:
I just felt the need to share, to network.

Okay, can you understand that what you did was not networking? Networking is sharing of information - not just posting a large number of links with no comments and expecting others to take the time and energy to watch them all and then comment. I, and most active members of this forum, do not have the time to go watch a bunch of videos because ninas posted them with no comment.

Can you at least understand that by doing it the way you did it, you were thinking of no one but yourself? If you can see that, then at least some purpose was served by this.
 
ninas said:
Why so? Do you think that just because you throw some links in a post, people should find them interesting?
If you put no effort in your post, why should we put effort to go through all these links which you haven't even watched critically, as some may be disinformation?
It shows lack of consideration for your readers and for this forum.

Wait, just hold on a second. This is getting blown way out of proportion...

No it is not getting blown way out of proportion.........
It appears though that your self-importance is blown way out of proportion.

ninas said:
I don't assume that people will find the links interesting, I'm very well aware that what's interesting to me may not be so for other people.

That is not the point. The very act of posting them with no information is a total disregard for anothers interests. It makes you more important than the reader because you do not find it necessary to provide any background information of why they are or are not interesting to you, why or why not they are even relevant, are they all just laughter and entertainment? Get it. Total disregard. Not squat, Nada.

ninas said:
I just felt the need to share, to network. My intention was sincere, even though the end result wasn't accomplished, that was, for people to enjoy the videos.

And this is where so many people here often fail. Such an act is not sharing. Such an act is not networking. This is STS. This is narcissism. It is what the WORK is about. It is why we try to point out the importance of all the psychological material, the 4th way material, etc. This is just an unconscious act, robotic self. The Love and Lighters think their intent is also sincere.

And your reaction is your predator trying to stroke itself because it wants to maintain that oh so blissful sleep and how dare anyone draw attention to the fact that you are not in control of yourself.

ninas said:
Why would you presume that I haven't watched them critically? Had I not done so, and thought they were pertinent to the thread " what's on your mind", I wouldn't have posted them.

No one presumed anything. What kind of conclusion can anyone make when you provide no information. If you watched them critically and took into consideration others then why did you not provide any assessment information at all - zero. Any statement anyone makes you can almost say the same thing as there is no reference to compare it with - you provided no reference information, zilch, Nada. You are now trying to justify your thoughtless action to prop up the predator's self image.

'What's on your mind' asks for you to contribute part of your mind just as in other threads. You did not do that.

ninas said:
I do agree that some, like the ones Anart was kind of enough to point out, may be disinformation but I didn't know they were,
until it was pointed out, that's why I said I would do a search on them.. :shock:

Posted by: anart
Exactly. Ninas, please also read the rules of the forum. http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=9553.0

You are posting noise and being rude while doing so. There are many, many forums in which you can behave this way - this is not one of them, so perhaps you would be happier elsewhere.

Forum Guidelines

Three: Don't spam, just don't. It will be deleted almost immediately, so it's a waste of time. Spamming means sending multiple meaningless posts. If you don't have anything beneficial or informative to say, don't just join in for nothin'. Posts deemed by the moderators (who have experience with this, by the way) to be "noise" will be deleted.

If you feel that I've been rude, I apologize. It is not and was never my intention to offend anyone on this forum.
I wasn't aware that my posts were viewed as "noise" and deemed "meaningless"....


Not rude. Inconsiderate, thoughtless, acted with no thought for others.

There are almost 2000 registered users on this forum. You posted 20 links with no thought.

If everyone did this the entire board would be nothing but mindless links.
2000 x 20 = 40,000 links.

Someone could post 200 pictures or links to pictures and say "I didn't know where to post these pictures but felt I should share them, they are on various topics .... enjoy!"
Someone could post 200 javascripts or links to javascripts and say "I didn't know where to post these javascripts but felt I should share them, they are on various topics .... enjoy!"

Such acts are noise and inconsiderate of others. That is one of the major points of this forum.
 
anart wrote:

Can you at least understand that by doing it the way you did it, you were thinking of no one but yourself? If you can see that, then at least some purpose was served by this.

I do understand and again, apologize. Constructive Criticism is good, it helps me secern better... Lesson learned :umm:

And, just so the spirit of the original intention isn't lost, I will assemble the links and post my comments and why I posted them soon :)
 
I think Ellipse's response is a good point that may help better understand why this was selfish. You acknowledge that what you find interesting may not be what others find interesting. But you make no effort to tell us what it is so we could see if we'd wanna see it or not. Well there are millions of videos on the internet, all are potentially interesting. How is what you did any different than choosing random videos from youtube and posting links to them here? You claim they were not "random" but you also claim that your interests are not necessarily interesting to others, and so for all intents and purposes, to everyone else, these videos are as good as "random" - there's as much chance they'll find them interesting as there's a chance they won't, just like for any other video out there. But including an explanation raises those odds since people won't need to watch those videos to find out whether they're interested in them or not.
 
ninas said:
And, just so the spirit of the original intention isn't lost, I will assemble the links and post my comments and why I posted them soon :)

It sounds like an excellent idea. It would be great if you could make a quick summary of each of those videos and mention what you liked and didn't like.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J284VO_md_c&feature=fvw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3FZtmlHwcA&feature=related

This last one is a bit spooky and load with question marks of operation paper clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahbsC7cSOj0&feature=related

Added after watching Laura's youtube of Operation Monarch. Here"s another take on O.P.C.

The Most dangerous Game part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCRzEmU9Aj8&feature=related
 
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