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[Ca.]

Тут даже не знаешь куда писать! Я напишу здесь.

МОЛНИЯ: Израиль нанёс удар по Сирии
08.05.2018 - 23:06

Israel Launches Air Strike On Syrian Army Position Near Damascus
Tue, 05/08/2018 - 16:13
Just minutes after Israel instructed local authorities in the occupied Golan Heights to "unlock and ready bomb shelters", after identifying apparent "irregular activity of Iranian forces in #Syria”, and putting Israeli troops on high alert, an Israeli air strike on Syrian army positions was reported after missiles were reportedly fired from Israel above Qunaitra province in Syria, and striking Syrian army positions in the Al-
Kissweh region south of Damascus, an industrial with many factories and a suspected Iranian presence.
No casualties have been reported.

https://twitter.com/x/status/993933873229828097

https://twitter.com/x/status/993935323490070529

The Syrian state news agency SANA reported the sound of explosions near Kisweh and said Syrian air defenses fired at and destroyed two Israeli missiles in the Kisweh area.

The location of the strike is shown below:

https://twitter.com/x/status/993941247952867328

https://twitter.com/x/status/993941869234130944

In response to the Israeli attack, Syrian air defenses fired at rockets, with reports on the ground claiming that Syrian air defenses reportedly downed two incoming missiles.

https://twitter.com/x/status/993944249270972416

All this took place shortly after Trump announced the US withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal.
For now there has been no official statement from Syria, or Iran for that matter, which is surely next on Israel's to do list.

Meanwhile, as journalist Danny Makki writes, and as we explained earlier, the tension on the ground will only escalate:
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[Windmill knight]

Israel always seeks to deliver a punch or two when it knows the world will be paying attention to something bigger. In this case, Trump's announcement. However, on this occassion it is also a provocation for Iran and Syria. Notice the reports above about "Israel expects Iran to retaliate". Of course, that's exactly what they want. Then they can claim that they are only defending themselves but the Iranians were upset about Trump's withdrawal, etc.

 

[youlik]

Notice the reports above about "Israel expects Iran to retaliate". Of course, that's exactly what they want.

Все еще действуют по отработанной схеме. Трамп заявляет об имеющихся "неопровержимых" доказательствах иранской лжи, естественно ничего не предъявляя и тут же следуют действия в виде санкций и ударов. Мне думается, что если эта практика не будет остановлена тем или иным способом, то развитие будет в одну сторону. Заявлять станут уже после действий, а затем вообще перестанут что либо заявлять. Решили- ударили.

Translation
Still act according to the fulfilled scheme. Trump declares the available "irrefutable" evidence of Iranian lies, of course, without presenting anything and immediately followed by action in the form of sanctions and strikes. I think that if this practice is not stopped in one way or another, the development will be in one direction. The statement will be after the action, and then stop stating anything. Decided-hit.

 

[Yas]

For me, it was nice to read what Iran's leader had to say. Pepe Escobar posted it on his FB:

https://www.facebook.com/pepe.escobar.77377/posts/10156268249591678

And answering his question about whether or not there will be cooperation, the EU leader Mogherini has asked everyone to preserve the agreement.

Then, France, Germany and the UK have also decided to stay committed to the agreement:

The UK, France and Germany have issued a joint statement assailing President Donald Trump’s decision to withdraw the US from the nuclear deal with Iran.

Moments after Mr Trump said he would abandon the pact, resisting overtures from European nations who had urged him to preserve America’s backing, UK Prime Minister Theresa May, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Emmanuel Macron said the decision to pull out of the Iran nuclear deal was a matter of “regret and concern”. However they said they remained committed to the accord.

They said: “It is with regret and concern that we, the leaders of France, Germany and the United Kingdom take note of President Trump's decision to withdraw the United States of America from the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA).

“Together, we emphasise our continuing commitment to the JCPOA. This agreement remains important for our shared security.

“We recall that the JCPOA was unanimously endorsed by the UN Security Council in resolution 2231. This resolution remains the binding international legal framework for the resolution of the dispute about the Iranian nuclear programme.

“We urge all sides to remain committed to its full implementation and to act in a spirit of responsibility.”

With the US re-imposing sanctions on Iran, Mr Macron said in a separate tweet of his own that “the nuclear non-proliferation regime is at stake”.

Even though we were kind of expecting that Europe would not agree to withdraw from the deal, I still find it quite impressive that they are opposing the US AND Israel. I can't even speculate much on what might happen next but this is very very interesting. I would like to believe that this will be a true backfire on the US and Israel, but it's really hard to know what's happening behind the scenes or how all the parts will act and react. So I guess it's more "waiting and seeing".

Added: I've just seen your post @fabric, you had already mentioned what Iran had to say I guess it's good to reiterate...

 

[Ca.]

My understanding so far, based on the latest SOTT radio shows, is that initially the US was fine with the Iran deal, because at the time, things weren't going well in Syria, and they probably thought Iran would be next, so accepting this deal was beneficial to them. However, with Russia stepping in, the situation in Syria drastically improved. So now, there would be little sense for the US to go on with the deal. They wouldn't get much out of it (the Deep State and in some ways probably Trump, because he is a businessman).

Europe however can benefit greatly from the Iran deal, and some countries have already made some steps towards cooperation on some projects. So, it will be interesting to see how Europe will respond, but it seems Europe would really not want to withdraw from the agreement. FWIW.

Iran nuclear deal will stay in place regardless of Trump's position, Russian diplomat says
May 08, 20:5 UTC+3
However there will be problems with its implementation, the diplomat also warns
BRUSSELS, May 8. /TASS/.

The Iran nuclear deal will stay in place, regardless of US President Donald Trump’s position, but there will be problems with its implementation, Russia’s Permanent Representative to the European Union Vladimir Chizhov said on Tuesday

"Whatever the White House may say today, it will mean, I have all the grounds to think so, that there will be problems on a path of its implementation. But it in no way means it will be broken down. It is a multilateral document approved unanimously, including by the United States, at the United Nations Security Council in the corresponding resolution," he said. "So, I am convinced that the rest five nations (Russia, China, the United Kingdom, France and Germany - TASS) will stay committed to this deal, and I hope Iran will stay committed to it too."

However he admitted that expectations about the US president’s statement on Iran "are rather gloomy." At the same time, the Russian diplomat stressed that the other international mediators on the Iranian nuclear program "maintain daily contacts on that problem."
The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), known as the deal on Iran’s nuclear program, was signed between Iran and six international mediators (the United Kingdom, Germany, China, Russia, the United States, and France) on July 14, 2015. On January 16, 2016, the parties to the deal announced beginning of its implementation. Under the deal, Iran undertakes to curb its nuclear activities and place them under total control of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) in exchange of abandonment of the sanctions imposed previously by the United Nations Security Council, the European Union and the United States over its nuclear program.

In January 2018, US President Donald Trump said his country would withdraw from the JCPOA if changes were not brought into it. In his words, he was "waiving the application of certain nuclear sanctions, but only in order to secure our European allies’ agreement to fix the terrible flaws of the Iran nuclear deal." In later April, a US administration official said that his country, France, Germany and the United Kingdom had managed to reach progress at talks aiming to amend the Iran nuclear deal but no final decision had been taken yet. Trump is expected to announce his decision on the JCPOA on Tuesday.

 

[fabric]

Even though we were kind of expecting that Europe would not agree to withdraw from the deal, I still find it quite impressive that they are opposing the US AND Israel.

That's also what I found quite interesting. I watched Trump's address, which was just a bunch of Iran bashing and after saw Iran's cool and collected response. If they had really been violating the agreement, you'd think they would say 'ok fine, the screw you guys' but they chose to continue the agreement without the US. The fact that other countries decided to remain tells me that they would only go so far in hurting their own interests. Now, the US has promised to 'punish' any countries that go against their 'harsher sanctions'. Well, we all know that the Russian sanctions hurt the EU economy more than Russia. It seems that Iran will be facing a similar situation and by extension, the EU. This latest move by the US seems to only further isolate them from other countries, including 'friends'. To me it seems that we are fast approaching a tipping point and the next attempts to win support for their wars will need to be quite drastic (ie. major false flag) in order to get these guys onboard. So while it's a good they are showing solidarity about the US/Israel, I fear that their response to get them back in line is not gonna be pretty. "Remember why they need us" comes to mind.

 

[luc]

That's also what I found quite interesting. I watched Trump's address, which was just a bunch of Iran bashing and after saw Iran's cool and collected response. If they had really been violating the agreement, you'd think they would say 'ok fine, the screw you guys' but they chose to continue the agreement without the US. The fact that other countries decided to remain tells me that they would only go so far in hurting their own interests. Now, the US has promised to 'punish' any countries that go against their 'harsher sanctions'. Well, we all know that the Russian sanctions hurt the EU economy more than Russia. It seems that Iran will be facing a similar situation and by extension, the EU. This latest move by the US seems to only further isolate them from other countries, including 'friends'. To me it seems that we are fast approaching a tipping point and the next attempts to win support for their wars will need to be quite drastic (ie. major false flag) in order to get these guys onboard. So while it's a good they are showing solidarity about the US/Israel, I fear that their response to get them back in line is not gonna be pretty. "Remember why they need us" comes to mind.

Yes, it's very interesting. Have a look at the statement of the EU diplomacy chief Federica Mogherini that someone posted earlier:

In less diplomatic terms, she pretty much says "screw you US, you childish, idiotic fool. You are just running around ruining everything with your lunacy, and we're not having any of that anymore!"

The German mainstream press is also pretty much on board with this stance, and even Germany's guilt towards Israel and general pro-US-press doesn't seem to change that. I guess it's mainly because of the huge economic interest Europe has in the deal. For some background, here are a few of the deals EU companies made since the Iran deal came about:

• French Total: 5 billion Euro deal to develop natural gas reserves in Iran
• French Airbus: delivery of 100 planes to Iran worth 19 billion Euro
• Italien/French aircraft manufacturer ATR: 536 million Euro deal with IranAir
• French PSA Peugeot Citroen: Deal about opening a manufacturing site in Iran
• German Volkswagen: Started exporting cars to Iran

No wonder the Europeans are pissed!

Another aspect might be that everyone on the liberal side (i.e. all the European MSM) are primed to be critical of Trump because he's a "rightwinger" and "populist". That might make it easier even for the US mouthpieces to criticize him. What a different and horrible timeline it would be had Killary won!

In the greater scheme of things, maybe this is another sign that the US is rapidly losing its grip and stranglehold it had over the entire world for so long. Even though European bureaucrats and leaders can't outright say it, I suspect many have had enough of the nonsense, especially concerning Russia. And now that the US insanity starts hurting their economy in earnest, and nobody can ignore the weakness of the US anymore, maybe more and more will start turning their backs on the international bully.

Be that as it may, we seem to be at a major geopolitical crossroads, and things are pretty dangerous!!

 

[Oxajil]

So, economically wise, Boeing and Airbus licenses to sell jets to Iran will be revoked. And bully John Bolton gave a warning:

Separately on Tuesday, US National Security Advisor John Bolton warned European companies that they would face immediate sanctions for new deals with Iran and that they have at most six months to wind down already existing agreements.

"No new contracts are permitted" he said. "For contracts that already exist, there is a wind-down period to allow an orderly termination of the contract,” he said.

The question is whether European companies will listen (or rather obey Mr. Mustache). If they do, I guess that just means more business with Russia (and others). For example, Iran has sealed deals to buy 40 Sukhoi Superjets.

It will be interesting to see how things further develop.

 

[luc]

Just to add an interesting tidbit from German MSM Spiegel Online, usually one of the main US/Israel propaganda mouthpieces:

USA kündigen Iran-Deal: Der Wortbruch - SPIEGEL ONLINE - Politik

The geopolitical reasons Trump cited in his seven-minute introduction to the decisive sentence were false, fictitious or distorted. The "disastrous" deal triggers a "nuclear arms race in the Middle East", Iran threatens America with nuclear destruction, the USA and Europe are "united" in this. Trump's arguments - which apparently came directly from his new hardliner security consultant John Bolton, who stood next to him - were fake news.

In other words, the biggest and most influential German MSM news site outright called Trump's and Israel's statements about Iran fake news! Who would have thought?

 

[Yas]

To me it seems that we are fast approaching a tipping point and the next attempts to win support for their wars will need to be quite drastic (ie. major false flag) in order to get these guys onboard. So while it's a good they are showing solidarity about the US/Israel, I fear that their response to get them back in line is not gonna be pretty. "Remember why they need us" comes to mind.

Be that as it may, we seem to be at a major geopolitical crossroads, and things are pretty dangerous!!

Yes, that's what I thought too. They might be tempted to use their terrorists in Europe as a Gladio 2.0 operation in order to put it back on line.

 

[loreta]

Yes, that's what I thought too. They might be tempted to use their terrorists in Europe as a Gladio 2.0 operation in order to put it back on line.

For me it is not clear if the leaders of the Europe are against (a little) USA. The are so hypocritical and false and actors of second order. But I agree, Gladio 2.0 can act and why not, they can say is Iran the culprit!

 

[youlik]

Выход из ядерной сделки с Ираном — крест на мире с КНДР, — мнение
09.05.2018 - 17:22
| Русская весна
Спорное решение Дональда Трампа о выходе из ядерной сделки с Ираном комментирует публицист и экономист Иван Лизан.

Translation

Withdrawal from the nuclear deal with Iran-the cross at peace with the DPRK-opinion
09.05.2018 - 17:22
| Russian spring
Donald trump's controversial decision to withdraw from the nuclear deal with Iran is commented by publicist and economist Ivan Lizan.

Today, the US withdrew not only from the nuclear deal with Iran, but also put a fat cross on the Korean settlement, making it clear to Kim that the US is absolutely incapable of turning and easily deceive not only rogue States, but also its allies.
Now all eupopean projects with Iran, especially the deals on Airbus Airbus Airbus Airbus Airbus Airbus Airbus Airbus Airbus Airbus delivery are in danger of failure, and European capital is in danger of huge losses. Europe has already stated that the deal will not go.
For greater efficiency, the US remains only to destroy the world trading system to its foundations, but trump will not rust — he is stubborn and will not stop. I am confident that the EU will respond to US trade restrictions.
The middle East now faces more than a serious war, and Iran will acquire an atomic bomb — why the US and Israel can, and Tehran can not? And nuclear weapons remain the only guarantor of America's non-aggression.
So in our eyes the United States is destroying itself as a superpower, because it obeys not so much because it is afraid, but because it is profitable for some time for political and economic reasons.
Now, however, no benefit remains, therefore, to listen Washington do not have special needs.

Выход из ядерной сделки с Ираном — крест на мире с КНДР, — мнение

 

[DianaRose]

Yes, it's very interesting. Have a look at the statement of the EU diplomacy chief Federica Mogherini that someone posted earlier:

In less diplomatic terms, she pretty much says "screw you US, you childish, idiotic fool. You are just running around ruining everything with your lunacy, and we're not having any of that anymore!"

The German mainstream press is also pretty much on board with this stance, and even Germany's guilt towards Israel and general pro-US-press doesn't seem to change that. I guess it's mainly because of the huge economic interest Europe has in the deal. For some background, here are a few of the deals EU companies made since the Iran deal came about:

• French Total: 5 billion Euro deal to develop natural gas reserves in Iran
• French Airbus: delivery of 100 planes to Iran worth 19 billion Euro
• Italien/French aircraft manufacturer ATR: 536 million Euro deal with IranAir
• French PSA Peugeot Citroen: Deal about opening a manufacturing site in Iran
• German Volkswagen: Started exporting cars to Iran

No wonder the Europeans are pissed!

Another aspect might be that everyone on the liberal side (i.e. all the European MSM) are primed to be critical of Trump because he's a "rightwinger" and "populist". That might make it easier even for the US mouthpieces to criticize him. What a different and horrible timeline it would be had Killary won!

In the greater scheme of things, maybe this is another sign that the US is rapidly losing its grip and stranglehold it had over the entire world for so long. Even though European bureaucrats and leaders can't outright say it, I suspect many have had enough of the nonsense, especially concerning Russia. And now that the US insanity starts hurting their economy in earnest, and nobody can ignore the weakness of the US anymore, maybe more and more will start turning their backs on the international bully.

Be that as it may, we seem to be at a major geopolitical crossroads, and things are pretty dangerous!!

If you were on Twitter yesterday you would have seen lots of people moaning, bitching and name calling. But, in practice, at this point I can't see the US pull out as having as negative an impact as people make it out to be. The C's did mention the reveal of the men behind the curtain. So far things seems to be according to plan imo. Trump though he might not truly be the awful person MSM make him out to be seems to be the fall guy. How far will he fall I don't know. But I feel like it's going to be steep. There is danger, but I don't know, at the same time, I feel like there's a window of opportunity in some ways.

 

[luc]

Another interesting thing from Germany is this tweet by the new US ambassador to Germany:

https://twitter.com/x/status/993924107212394496

Can you believe it? The guy tells German companies to kill lucrative business deals, just because he says so.

There has been quite some backlash against him because of this, including from business associations and leading politicians. But it is interesting in that the "man behind the curtain", i.e. the fact that European countries are more or less US vassals, becomes more visible each day. Also, a "boss" who has to constantly remind everyone that he's the boss doesn't really have authority IMO.

Since Trump's decision to withdraw from the nuclear deal, there has been huge outrage from various national business associations and so on, calling on the government to protect German business interests. For example, the association of the machine building business (huge in Germany) said the best thing would be to continue the deal without the US, and that it will support its members in doing business with Iran.

Seems people totally have enough of the transatlantic bully. But of course, before things get better (if they do at all), there will be all kinds of disruptions - like European companies losing business in the US etc. But at this point, hopefully Europe shows those idiots in the US the middle finger when it comes to the Iran deal and speculate that Bolton and his ilk are merely bluffing. I mean, if European companies continue doing business with Iran, what can they really do? Yes, they can try to introduce sanctions, but that's not very easy to do and always backfires. Plus, American companies who rely on German products and know-how can't just switch suppliers in a heartbeat. Let's see how this will play out.

The whole thing, the arrogance, the bullying, the sheer lunacy that the US shows here really makes my blood boil as a German and a European.

 

[luc]

From Sputnik:
EU's Juncker: Europe Must Replace US as Leader After Trump Quits Iran Deal

As many voiced their concerns over Donald Trump’s move, President of the European Commission Jean-Claude Juncker did not remain on the sidelines either, slamming Washington for “no longer” willing to “cooperate with other parts of the world.”

“At this point, we have to replace the United States, which as an international actor has lost vigor, and because of it, in the long term, influence,” the EU chief said, suggesting that Europe should take over the US’ role as global leader.

...
President of the European Council Donald Tusk, for his part, stated that Donald Trump’s stance on Iran and international trade would “meet a united European approach.”

That's some strong words - looks like some European leaders know what's going on and increasingly feel in a position to outright say it, OSIT.