Is there revolution going on in Spain?

[efeuvete]

In any case, I consider meaningful that, as it seems, is "money people" who is behind this "somehow communist" scene.
(XXI century "social manipulation" crazy ways)

 

[ana]

Well I can't talk of what's really behing the scenes because in fact I don't know, what I see in your comparative is that on the one hand "Democracia Real Ya" is describing the current status of a big majority of the population and then asking for a real change so that people can live under circunstances that ensure the basic rights: "housing, employment, culture, health, education, political participation, free personal development, and consumer rights for a healthy and happy life" while the communist manifesto is clearly advocating for revelion to get the power.

I mean there's a difference between people who is suffering and want it to stop and regain their freedoms and rights and those who are after the conquest of power, osit.

I think what is happening may be related to what was commented in this session:

“The following questions thus suggest themselves: what happens if the network of understandings among psychopaths achieves power in leadership positions with international exposure? This can happen, especially during the later phases of the phenomenon. Goaded by their character, such people thirst for just that even though it would conflict with their own life interest... They do not understand that a catastrophe {will} ensue. Germs are not aware that they will be burned alive or buried deep in the ground along with the human body whose death they are causing.

“If such and many managerial positions are assumed by individuals deprived of sufficient abilities to feel and understand most other people, and who also betray deficiencies in technical imagination and practical skills—(faculties indispensable for governing economic and political matters) this must result in an exceptionally serious crisis in all areas, both within the country in question and with regard to international relations. Within, the situation shall become unbearable even for those citizens who were able to feather their nest into a relatively comfortable modus vivendi. Outside, other societies start to feel the pathological quality of the phenomenon quite distinctly. Such a state of affairs cannot last long.”}

A: Yes

Q: (L) Well, first we have some revelations, and you start feeling a little hope about the Climategate thing. Then, you have this obviously transparent "false flag" terrorism attack on an airplane which then results in crackdowns that make everybody miserable. It's so ridiculous as to be beyond comprehension.

A: We once said that 4D STS will become desperate for control as the changes approach. They perceive that control is being undermined thus making them more desperate.

Q: (L) What's undermining their control?

A: Why you, yes! Collectively, that is.

Q: (Allen) So we do it by things that we're publishing, or just by being who we're being and working on things for ourselves?

A: All and more coming down the creativity pipeline.

Q: (L) Could it be said that what we're doing is actually inducing these controlling actions?

A: Yes but that is actually good because it means that their desperation is being driven and they will make more mistakes and turn the masses against them sooner

By the way here you are a video of the eviction of the protesters this morning in Barcelona by security forces, "the mossos":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Geg_6Xoy04s&feature=share

 

[efeuvete]

I think what is happening may be related to what was commented in this session:

I agree with your comment Ana; The "Powers That Be" seem to somehow breaking their own (Tricky) rules. They look as if they were "loosing roles"; Kind of crazy thing.

I feel everybody here is playing with fire: Do you know that the police tried to "clean" the demonstration (They couldn't, so much people went there) just because Barcelona Soccer Club fans use that place to meet when they win a local match (They have one important match in Barcelona tonight)?

 

[clerck de bonk]

By the way here you are a video of the eviction of the protesters this morning in Barcelona by security forces, "the mossos":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Geg_6Xoy04s&feature=share

Kudos to Barcelona's protesters, they(the group as a whole) didn't get volatile. I'm not sure I could've remained calm. Pictures like those "get me" everytime...

IMO, as in Egypt, if the "movement" isn't infiltrated or even instigated by tptb already it will with time, unless people get savvy to the idea of psychpaths.

 

[ana]

I think what is happening may be related to what was commented in this session:

I agree with your comment Ana; The "Powers That Be" seem to somehow breaking their own (Tricky) rules. They look as if they were "loosing roles"; Kind of crazy thing.

I feel everybody here is playing with fire: Do you know that the police tried to "clean" the demonstration (They couldn't, so much people went there) just because Barcelona Soccer Club fans use that place to meet when they win a local match (They have one important match in Barcelona tonight)?

Yes, it seems that's the reason they gave to them.

 

[jordifs]

I feel everybody here is playing with fire: Do you know that the police tried to "clean" the demonstration (They couldn't, so much people went there) just because Barcelona Soccer Club fans use that place to meet when they win a local match (They have one important match in Barcelona tonight)?

Today is Champions League Final Match, Barcelona vs Machester United.

_http://www.fcbarcelona.es/web/castellano/socis/especials/entrades/Final_Wembley_2011/index.html
_http://www.fcbarcelona.com/web/castellano/noticies/futbol/temporada10-11/05/03/n110503117241.html

Nonetheless confrontation with the police is a bad policy. The protest can continue tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow again. There is no need to face the police, no need for violence. A person facing the police can voluntarily leave and say to the police: see you tomorrow!

 

[efeuvete]

IMO, as in Egypt, if the "movement" isn't infiltrated or even instigated by tptb already it will with time, unless people get savvy to the idea of psychpaths.

Something tells me that tptb "play" here is somehow strangely cheap, you see:

Police aggression to peaceful demonstating people because...
They are using a place reserved to soccer victory celebrations...
While they stubbornly demand leftist solutions to a...
Left wing party in power for seven years and...
If you look at this a little closer, you'll find connexions to economic powers in the promotion of those demonstrations.

You see... it looks like a bad monsters movie script.
Well, we'll wait and see.