Is Zeitgeist III debunking genetic Psychopathy?

[Bernhard]

Zetigeist III just came out the other day. I haven't seen the whole film, but someone sent me this clip, which is interesting in light of genetic Psychopathy.
According to the people interviewed, any bad and violent behavior is related to social and environmental conditions and can be cured. They don't mention Psychopathy per se, but it seems that they'd include that as well in their argument. It is obvious that much of people's behavior, addictions and illnesses are related to social and environmental conditions, but it seems there is a blind spot when it comes to Psychopathy. Maybe Peter Joseph (director of Zetigeist) is aware of "Psychopathy" since I think some people have tried to make him aware of this and even suggested to read "Ponerology" to him and that is his way to debunk it? But that's just my speculation and maybe I'm reading too much into it?

- The Genetics Myth - Clip from Zeitgeist 3: Moving Forward
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36HquPzdxf4

 

[Tigersoap]

That's the impression I got as well.
It doesn't take into account that psychopathy can't be cured or modified at all.
I think they are willingly ignoring this on purpose but I could be wrong.

Also do they talk about how the food we eat can alter genes because of chemicals and such ?

 

[Niall]

Yup, I also got the impression that the Zeitgeist programmers are going out of their way to play down psychopathy. The net result will be to keep seekers docile in the face of humanity's intra-species predator.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

Yup, I also got the impression that the Zeitgeist programmers are going out of their way to play down psychopathy. The net result will be to keep seekers docile in the face of humanity's intra-species predator.

Why am I not surprised?

 

[anart]

Yup, I also got the impression that the Zeitgeist programmers are going out of their way to play down psychopathy. The net result will be to keep seekers docile in the face of humanity's intra-species predator.

Why am I not surprised?

My thoughts exactly...

 

[Bernhard]

Yup, I also got the impression that the Zeitgeist programmers are going out of their way to play down psychopathy. The net result will be to keep seekers docile in the face of humanity's intra-species predator.

Why am I not surprised?

My thoughts exactly...

Yep, especially since I've been trying to make some of the Zeitgeist-movement members aware of Ponerology and Psychopathy. There is this one guy I've "known" for a couple of years through the internet and facebook. He latched on the Z-movement pretty early on and has been a big promoter of the Venus Project and Zeitgeist ever since, organizing events and screenings. I think he's pretty close to Peter Joseph as well. We had numerous discussions and each time I mentioned that Peter Joseph is missing the key issue of Psychopathy, he said that he'll cover that topic in Z III. Well, I guess that clip is what he understands under "covering the topic of psychopathy".

It is interesting to see with how much of a tunnel vision some of the zeitgeist movement folks support the ideas of Peter Joseph and are not open to any view points that may actually expand their understanding and may help to put their Utopian solutions in a more realistic context. Also interesting to note is how big the movement is. It's a world wide phenomena with hundreds of thousands of member and it seems people just join or like it because it sounds good and it's always easy to follow something, being told what to do/think without doing any thinking or research on their part. That's at least the impression I get from most Zeitgeist supporters I've talked to.

I listened to PJ's interviews here and there. He and his followers are very stuck in the idea that the monetary system is the root of all evil and the solution to it all is a resource based economy and technology. If people have all what they need and are taken care of, it will eliminate crime, war, oppression and any other social injustice. Good luck with that one.....

 

[Won8d]

Something interesting I noticed is when the gentleman was speaking about breast cancer at approximately 2 minutes into the clip he is speaking about women who are carriers of the gene as if that is the only reason that a person could develop cancer. They do not say much in regards to environmental influences like pollution or GMO's.

 

[Woodsman]

Sigh.

I really liked their early work.

Then Richard Dolan got funny...

Are there ANY groups out there not suffering guidance problems? Is SOTT really the only lighthouse with its bulb screwed in properly?

Or is SOTT also making gross errors that we're just not catching? Things seem pretty clean around here to me.

How truly small is the community of the awake and waking?

 

[ScioAgapeOmnis]

Something interesting I noticed is when the gentleman was speaking about breast cancer at approximately 2 minutes into the clip he is speaking about women who are carriers of the gene as if that is the only reason that a person could develop cancer. They do not say much in regards to environmental influences like pollution or GMO's.

Oh so they ignore environmental influences when they become inconvenient, but then turn around and ignore genetic influences (psychopathy) when those become inconvenient as well. Talk about ignoring the data and creating your own reality. It doesn't smell like incompetence, more like intentional lying. This sort of thing in the "conspiracy" circles has stopped being surprising or even disappointing long ago, and pretty much expected, unfortunately.

You know what they say..
"Enter through the narrow gate, for wide is the gate and spacious and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many are those who are entering it".

 

[Laura]

Sigh.

I really liked their early work.

Then Richard Dolan got funny...

I know, pretty depressing.

Are there ANY groups out there not suffering guidance problems? Is SOTT really the only lighthouse with its bulb screwed in properly?

Or is SOTT also making gross errors that we're just not catching? Things seem pretty clean around here to me.

I guess when people aren't aware that they CAN be vectored - when they get too confident in their ability to out-think the other side, they make mistakes.

So far, we've managed - but only by virtue of inspirational help via Cs and network.

 

[dannybananny]

I listened to PJ's interviews here and there. He and his followers are very stuck in the idea that the monetary system is the root of all evil and the solution to it all is a resource based economy and technology. If people have all what they need and are taken care of, it will eliminate crime, war, oppression and any other social injustice. Good luck with that one.....

What is funny, it goes on the hand with PTB plans that are mentions in Protocols and elsewhere, that they want to destroy this system so the new can be build, and movies like this in this times when economic collapse is happening is like a honey for bees that don't see that it's poisoned, and that it's furthering their agenda, like any other movie there it wouldn't be so famous and so aired if it's telling the hole truth.

 

[myth]

Yup, I also got the impression that the Zeitgeist programmers are going out of their way to play down psychopathy. The net result will be to keep seekers docile in the face of humanity's intra-species predator.

are you talking about higher density beings? If not please point me in the right direction.

- But i thought they made a good point about people with a genetic tendency wont manifest the "tendency" unless "provoked" by the environment. Am i misled?
If so please point me where to go. ;D

 

[Renaissance]

Yup, I also got the impression that the Zeitgeist programmers are going out of their way to play down psychopathy. The net result will be to keep seekers docile in the face of humanity's intra-species predator.

are you talking about higher density beings? If not please point me in the right direction.

- But i thought they made a good point about people with a genetic tendency wont manifest the "tendency" unless "provoked" by the environment. Am i misled?
If so please point me where to go. ;D

Hi Myth, the beings that are being discussed are psychopaths, particularly genetic psychopaths who are not influenced by environment. They are who they are and were born that way.

Check out this article which will help to put the term 'inter-species predator' into a context for you:
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=1714.0

The psychoapthy and ponerology forums both have lots of great information to read through. There are sticky threads at the top of each board which will provide you with some key information (the above link is a sticky thread).

Also there are the psychopathy books on the recommended reading list. A link to it is in the welcome message that you recieved after you made your introduction.