Islamicizing Europe?

casper said:
Buddy said:
casper, people are all different and no two people are exactly alike. It is only rational to assume that within the refugee group of people, someone is going to have a weapon of some sort...probably just to protect their life and meager possessions from a predator or mugger if for no other reason.
Why have not surrendered their weapons as they entered the other's territory, in Greece, Macedonia, Serbia, Croatia, Slovenia, Hungary .....
It's pretty far-fetched, do not you think?
In which country will feel safe enough to hand over their weapons?
Will it ever deliver,the vast majority in the beginning was not examined thoroughly, is not that a little worrying?
Could not see the video, it said to be taken down for copyright infringement issues. Did read the article.

I do not think is far-fetched, they might not know that they can feel safe in Greece, Macedonia, Serbia, Croatia, Slovenia, Hungary etc,. At the area where I work, there are posters inviting people to surrender their weapons, in order to avoid more violence, personally, I'm not sure that will help, or that it be a success.

I assume they had not examined thoroughly because those countries had not been prepared, the logistics of the big problem upon them. Like the use of jars as WC, had not seen portable WC at borders for those people, are they?

Agreed also to what Buddy mentioned above.
 
Slick CIA production. Objective: divide and conquer public opinion in Europe, and thereby avoid, at all costs, its realignment with Russia. How appropriate that Cicero is quoted in its YT blurb: he was a schizoidal nutcase whose florid prose about 'democratic values' masked pusillanimous support for the utterly corrupt ruling oligarchy of the day.
 
I would like to add only this, me and my family immigrated in Italy from Eastern Europe some years ago, we like Italy very much, it's a beautiful country and the Italian people are good people too, we integrated in the Italian society, we work and pay taxes and so forth, the only thing is that even if Italy is a Mediterranean contry it feels very "cold" here and i'm coming from a country were the "weather" is much harsher...
What i mean by this is that the islamacizing Europe thing is utter b*****it, this is nothing else than scaremongering as other of our members in this thread have stated.
 
How appropriate that Cicero is quoted in its YT blurb: he was a schizoidal nutcase whose florid prose about 'democratic values' masked pusillanimous support for the utterly corrupt ruling oligarchy of the day.

AMEN!
 
"Shadow Government" I truly believe that this says it all. In a time of every other sort of possible issue- disease, economic collapse,Weather anomalies, possible war and now the thought of tens of thousands if not more refugees coming to a city near you. Of course there is going to be fear mongering,The "Shadow Government" bringing the civil unrest in every country- to cause this "state of emergencies" to take away what little rights we think we have left.This gives them a great stage to implement their devious plans. Not to mention the whole thing is a repeat of religious upheaval and distrust in anything we do not know that has been happening for much of human history as far as I know. The fact is, is that racism was so easy to create and has been a human issue for ever, and completely explains the "divide and conquer"
If you can't trust your neighbour, your doctor, your grocery store, your government, your spouse...how can humanity unite and evolve?
As for the videos, posts and news, shall we expect it to get worse!
 
Buddy said:
I don't have all the answers. I'm sorry. But I would simply place a little bit of faith in common human values. I don't think it's in ordinary people to simply pull a knife or gun and hurt someone for no reason, otherwise they'd be very few adults and old people in the world. I would try to protect myself, and anyone else I could, from random acts of mindless violence, but I would behave with common courtesy and respect to all the refugees as I would anyone else. Don't give in to fear or anger...try to channel it for the good somehow.

big-picture said:
"Shadow Government" I truly believe that this says it all. In a time of every other sort of possible issue- disease, economic collapse,Weather anomalies, possible war and now the thought of tens of thousands if not more refugees coming to a city near you. Of course there is going to be fear mongering,The "Shadow Government" bringing the civil unrest in every country- to cause this "state of emergencies" to take away what little rights we think we have left.This gives them a great stage to implement their devious plans. Not to mention the whole thing is a repeat of religious upheaval and distrust in anything we do not know that has been happening for much of human history as far as I know. The fact is, is that racism was so easy to create and has been a human issue for ever, and completely explains the "divide and conquer"
If you can't trust your neighbour, your doctor, your grocery store, your government, your spouse...how can humanity unite and evolve?

As for the videos, posts and news, shall we expect it to get worse!

I think the bold parts are key. Instead of giving in to our fears, or getting lost in thoughts about "grand conspiracies" or "Islamization", I think we should repeat in our minds like a mantra: "these are people like me", "what would I do in their situation?", "these are people like me"... - putting ourselves in their shoes, showing some empathy!! Then, for example, the fact that refugees get "missing" isn't part of a big conspiracy, but becomes obvious: if I was one of those refugees, wouldn't I keep in touch with other refugees, maybe even family members and friends who already arrived in Europe, and figure out what's the best option for me and my family? Wouldn't I consider evading registration so that I can go to a city that folks told me offers more opportunities? Wouldn't I want to join my friends, even if this means I have to find a way to get there semi-legally? Wouldn't I consider bringing a knife - a very versatile thing to have indeed, not just for self-defense? And so on.

People, this is a war for our souls! If we give in to our fears and start considering "those refugees" like worthless animals, we loose all empathy, and ultimately, our souls! I mean, once you don't consider other people "human", the next logical step is committing violence, or cheering a false leader who promises to brutally deal with the problem. So, instead of spreading/inventing cruel stories about "those refugees", why not volunteer to help out at a refugee camp, if that's possible? That way, you actually do something useful and gain first-hand experience of what's going on, and you get to know "those refugees" and realize that we are in this together. It's humanity vs. non-humanity. I know that this is not possible/feasible for everyone, but thinking about what you can actually do to help instead of complaining that the government does not enough, or worse, projecting all our fears onto the refugees and ultimately being governed by blind, compassion-less hatred, is a much better mindset, osit.

“Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.”
– Yoda
 
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