Israel-Palestine War: Hamas Breaks Out of Gaza, Israel Responds With Genocide
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Lyndi
Jedi Master
Yes, false flag anyone? I'm not assuming but the rhythm of events is so suggestive.
Wasn't your usual terrorist. Stayed around, politely waiting to be arrested.
Cue some draconian hate speech legislation.
Are we watching a movie?
Ruth
The Living Force
I don't think this is going to be enough for the Israelis to 'take back the narrative'. In other words they have to do something much, much worse.... and then blame the target of the entity they want the US to attack for them.
That is what concerns me. Americans are so easy to lie to and Isralis are quite capable of doing the type of false flags like 9/11 and 10/7. At least, I think they were false flags, anyway.
axj
The Living Force
If Americans were easy to lie to, they would not have elected Trump twice despite most of the media attacking him non-stop and even despite election stealing efforts.
And of course 9/11 and 10/7 were both basically false flag attacks that were not at all what has been 'officially' claimed.
It is indeed. I think it is worth noting though, that we live in a much different world that we did 25 years ago. If the Overton window truly turns against Israel, the probability of Israel succeeding with their false flag decreases. We're not quite there yet as far as I can tell, but Israel is quickly turning in to the villain in the minds of the masses. Additionally, the population at large is significantly more keen to alternative news sources than they were in 2001. In 2025, Tucker Carlson is doing a documentary on 9/11. Being a 9/11 conspiracy theorist is almost mainstream. Point is, it does not seem guaranteed that if Israel pulls off a false flag that they are going to get the intended reaction.
Liliea
The Living Force
At this point where more than 180,000 Palestinians, according to the UN, have been displaced due to the last Israeli operation and the territory is beginning to be cleared, it is the areas such as the West Bank that are the most difficult to justify because of their territorial and political importance that are first desired to be annexed as part of the unilateral strategy (blackmail) to consolidate Palestinian lands that are supposed to be inviolable, or so it was believed, by international agreements. This desire is supported in a public "flag March" through occupied Jerusalem by Ben Gvir, Israel's Security Minister, who states about humanitarian relief efforts: “all our enemies need is a bullet in the head” in a dignified commemoration of Israel's seizure of the Old City and Temple Mount in the 1967 Six Day War, an annexation not recognized by international law.
The minister made these statements before a crowd that surrounded him chanting “let your village burn” and “death to the Arabs”, according to the newspaper 'Times of Israel':
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thecradle.co
The minister made these statements before a crowd that surrounded him chanting “let your village burn” and “death to the Arabs”, according to the newspaper 'Times of Israel':
pic.twitter.com/xgACdi5Y8v
Settlers storm Al-Aqsa Mosque, UNRWA headquarters during Jerusalem ‘Flag March’
The supremacist march this year coincides with a significant escalation of settler violence against Palestinians in the occupied West Bank
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SlipNet
The Living Force
Former Israeli PM Ehud Olmert has come out swinging in the UK press today. He just says it straight; the current administration is committing war crimes. The article below is from The Guardian, a paper that has been curiously mealy-mouthed in its reporting of the chaos in Gaza and the West Bank. It's also worth noting that Olmert and Netanyahu both hail from the same political party, Likud. Without question you are looking at a peculiar type of psychopathy when you stare into the collective soul of Israeli society. They take perverse glee in their actions, and make little effort to conceal their deeds now, which makes it even worse in my mind. It's the spiritual question of our time. Your perspective on Israel/Palestine defines the state of your soul. Olmert sees the truth and he's not afraid to say it.
www.theguardian.com
Former Israeli PM Ehud Olmert says his country is committing war crimes
Leader from 2006 to 2009 says Palestinian victims are at ‘monstrous proportions’ and Netanyahu heads a ‘criminal gang’
Happy Poo
Jedi Master
Yes there has been a live feed on what's happening from the Guardian, I've been surprised to see so many articles from UK media that are telling it like it is moreso now than ever before, as far as I can tell..Former Israeli PM Ehud Olmert has come out swinging in the UK press today. He just says it straight; the current administration is committing war crimes. The article below is from The Guardian, a paper that has been curiously mealy-mouthed in its reporting of the chaos in Gaza and the West Bank. It's also worth noting that Olmert and Netanyahu both hail from the same political party, Likud. Without question you are looking at a peculiar type of psychopathy when you stare into the collective soul of Israeli society. They take perverse glee in their actions, and make little effort to conceal their deeds now, which makes it even worse in my mind. It's the spiritual question of our time. Your perspective on Israel/Palestine defines the state of your soul. Olmert sees the truth and he's not afraid to say it.
Former Israeli PM Ehud Olmert says his country is committing war crimes
Leader from 2006 to 2009 says Palestinian victims are at ‘monstrous proportions’ and Netanyahu heads a ‘criminal gang’
And things like actually naming and telling the stories of Palestinian people instead of just treating them as a statistic. The case where the 9 children of a paediatric doctor were killed, while her husband and son are in a critical condition is so so sad. There are too many stories like this to count I'm sure, but this unbelievably tragic story does seemed to have really shocked people all over the world.
The latest article shows the madness of scenes from the newly established GHF , "Gaza humanitarian foundation" or the Israeli government takeover of aid. Instead of opening up lines to let in coordinated international aid, They are Making a desperate and exhausted people walk miles carrying heavy boxes with the IDF firing at them to keep control. Scenes of chaos, lost for words but the world is watching.
Can't seem to attach these articles at the moment for some reason.
SlipNet
The Living Force
Yeah, I've noticed a change in the narrative lately, both from western politicians and the western MSM sources. Hopefully this is just the start of what's going on behind the scenes, but I'll not be holding my breath on that subject.
Ruth
The Living Force
I think that amongst their "faithful" (the Israel First types), a false flag is highly likely to succeed, and to succeed, it just needs to be believed that it occured exactly as it was presented.
These people are getting nationalistic, aggressive, antagonistic, combative and violent. They tend to be VERY easily convinced of something providing it presses their emotional buttons whilst simultaneosly challenging their sense of tribal superiority, as well as their sense of self importance. These are same people (I feel) who in the past felt entitled to something, (whether it be respect, success or superiority) and are now much aggrieved when they don't receive it. False flags are the consumate excuse for them to lash out and victimise others, as they have felt victimised. I hate to have to say it, but I think this mirrors the situation in Nazi Germany to a tee.
At the moment, I'm not even sure if the instigators of this zionist furvor are even remotely aware of how destructive this is going to be to them, in the end. I guess you could say that the strong alignment with STS (entropy) produces this type of blindness by default?
I'm currently part of an online group where I'm seeing this happen in real time (not for much longer). These people will verbally attack anyone who challenges them and they absolutely DON'T see any problem with either their thoughts or behaviour. Even if you present them with facts, they will brush it off dismissively, as well as attack the person who says it (not the argument - this is an ad hominem attack).
There is one gent in this group who actively brags about going over to Israel (post 10/7) with ideas on the best way to genocide the Palestinians. When he came back (his ideas probably weren't needed, even if they did listen to him politely), he has spent his time being rude, condecending and dismissive towards any group he considers inferior, as well as those people who don't agree with him. It's quite extrodinary. Sometimes I am simply stunned and amazed by his ability to be abnoxious, as well as other people's ability to think that this is ok, or even 'normal'.
This is the situation I think we are in now. All it will lead to is violence and destruction and I no longer want to be associated with people like that. Unfortunately I think this leads to a lot of people getting hurt.
Corvus
Dagobah Resident
To me it seems mainstream change of stance is just for public and what is the goal of globalists could be on opposite side(because Israel is totaly out of leash and in todays age thanks to social and alt media it is hard to keep it unknown and also western goverments/EU have to keep their image) like washing their hands from any responsibility if there is escalation with Iran and ME gets inflamed which would probably fit into their plans of chaos and crashing the system, and maybe knowing their stance will only push Israel further because Europe is escalating with Russia that brings it to the brink of war so it does not hold the water not mentioning their previous actions and plans. Trump on the other hand can see it is not in the economic and military interest of US that war with Iran happens and there are lines he is not ready cross if not backed in the corner.
Happy Poo
Jedi Master
I just watched an video of the UN envoy for Palestine break down in tears on camera, in anger and desperation he slams his fist on the desk after the US vetoed another ceasefire, and is struggling to speak through his tears. Unfortunately I can't share the link. Apparently the clinically insane Israeli leader has now accepted a ceasefire. I thought of a poem about how the good guys are waiting for major changes of choices. It does seem like people are waking up more now like the C's said, I hope so.
They said the power is within us and we can use it any time
Through the changing of our will sends the Universe a sign
They wait for us to change our choices
They hear all our thoughts like Voices
That go to the furthest reaches
Of the Divine Cosmic Mind
They are waiting for us
To stop believing lies
They are waiting for us
To see what's in front of our eyes
They wait for us to change our choices
They hear all our thoughts like Voices
And solemnly they sing as they watch our children die
Solemnly they sing, as they are waiting on standby
They wish we could change our choices
And use the power of our Voices
But if we won't see what is truth, all they can do is cry
They said the power is within us and we can use it any time
Through the changing of our will sends the Universe a sign
They wait for us to change our choices
They hear all our thoughts like Voices
That go to the furthest reaches
Of the Divine Cosmic Mind
They are waiting for us
To stop believing lies
They are waiting for us
To see what's in front of our eyes
They wait for us to change our choices
They hear all our thoughts like Voices
And solemnly they sing as they watch our children die
Solemnly they sing, as they are waiting on standby
They wish we could change our choices
And use the power of our Voices
But if we won't see what is truth, all they can do is cry
Liliea
The Living Force
The Palestinian movement Hamas and Israel agreed to a 60-day ceasefire in the Gaza Strip, several sources told Al Arabiya television channel. US presidential envoy Steve Witkoff has already been notified that the warring parties have approved the draft agreement he proposed.
“Israel signed off on this proposal before it was sent to Hamas,” White House spokesperson Karoline Leavitt told reporters.
The proposal reportedly does not include a guarantee that the ceasefire would become permanent, a key Hamas demand.
“Israel signed off on this proposal before it was sent to Hamas,” White House spokesperson Karoline Leavitt told reporters.
The proposal reportedly does not include a guarantee that the ceasefire would become permanent, a key Hamas demand.
Israel has accepted a new U.S. proposal for a temporary ceasefire with Hamas, the White House said Thursday.
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