It's snowing in Mexico in May!

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I haven't yet found an article on this in English, but I ran the above one through Google Translate. Perhaps a Spanish speaker can smooth it out? Thanks!

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Chihuahua - El frente frío número 50 que ingresó la noche del viernes al estado, y ocasionó nevadas en 18 municipios. La nieve alcanzó 18 centímetros en Ignacio Zaragoza y 12 centímetros en Gómez Farías.

En la capital del estado, el fenómeno climatológico tomó por sorpresa a los habitantes, ya que desde hace 32 años no nevaba en mayo, informó el vocero de la Unidad Estatal de Protección Civil, Martín de la Rosa.

Los municipios que se cubrieron de blanco desde las primeras horas del sábado son: Aldama, Aquiles Serdán, Bocoyna, Buenaventura, Casas Grandes, Cuauhtémoc, Chihuahua, Galeana, Gómez Farías, Guachochi, Guerrero, Ignacio Zaragoza, Madera, Matachí, Ocampo, Riva Palacio, San Juanito y Temósachic. También nevó en San Juanito, Creel, Cusárare y en la región del Divisadero.

En los seccionales de Rubio y Anáhuac la nieve cayó de forma más intensa, en tanto que los pobladores de Bachíniva, Namiquipa y Riva Palacio, también reportaron a la Unidad de Protección Civil sobre este fenómeno.

En la capital comenzó una ligera llovizna entre las 4:00 y 5:00 horas, con una temperatura de 3 grados centígrados y una sensación térmica de –2 grados, cerca de las 7:00 horas comenzaron a caer los primeros copos de nieve, los más grandes se observaron al Sur de la ciudad.

En 1982 se presentó un clima muy similar al de ayer en la capital. La nevada tomó por sorpresa a los chihuahuenses que salían de sus casas para dirigirse a sus trabajos, y en la mayoría de los casos tuvieron que sacar de nuevo las chamarras.

El vocero de la Unidad Estatal de Protección Civil (UEPC), llamó a la población a extremar precauciones ante el clima que continuará en las próximas horas nublado y húmedo, pero descartó lluvias para hoy.
“El frente frío 50 que ocasionó las nevadas, sigue su camino hacia el Sur del estado, por lo que existe la posibilidad de nieve en esa parte”, concluyó Martín de la Rosa.

After Google Translate

The cold front that entered the 50th night of Friday to the state, and caused snowfall in 18 municipalities. The snow reached 18 centimeters and 12 centimeters Ignacio Zaragoza in Gomez Farias.

In the capital of the state, the weather phenomenon took people by surprise, since for 32 years did not snow in May, said spokesman of the State Civil Protection Unit, Martin de la Rosa.

The municipalities that were covered in white from the early hours of Saturday are: Aldama, Aquiles Serdan, Bocoyna, Buenaventura, Casas Grandes, Cuauhtémoc, Chihuahua, Galeana, Gomez Farias, Guachochi, Guerrero, Ignacio Zaragoza, Wood, Matachi, Ocampo, Riva Palacio, San Juanito and Temosachic. It also snowed in San Juanito, Creel, Cusárare and Divisadero in the region.

In Anahuac sectional Rubio and snow fell more intensely, while the inhabitants of Bachíniva, Namiquipa and Riva Palacio, also reported to the Civil Protection Unit on this phenomenon.

In the capital, a light rain began between 4:00 and 5:00 pm, with a temperature of 3 degrees Celsius and a wind chill of -2 degrees, about 7:00 am began to fall as the first flakes of snow, the largest were found south of the city.

In 1982 there was an atmosphere very similar to yesterday in the capital. The snow came as a surprise to the Chihuahua who left home to go to work, and in most cases had to bring back the jackets.

The spokesman for the State Civil Protection Unit (UEPC), urged people to exercise extreme caution before the climate will continue later in the day cloudy and wet, but rain ruled out for today.

"The cold front that caused the snow 50, continues on his way to the south of the state, so there is a possibility of snow in this part," concluded Martin de la Rosa.
 
Geez, that's really crazy. Here in the south of France, we had about a week of warm and sunny weather with one day reaching 30C - then we woke up to 4C this morning with heavy wind and a forecast predicting the total average of May's rainfall within the next week!
 
Yep ...............Here to........... looks like 10 inches ( i just went and measured it) or 10cm so far and has not stopped (in the south fr. on the border)scene last night as well. And one week ago (or was it 2 weeks ago) it was in the low 70's Fahrenheit? :huh:
 
Andromeda said:
Geez, that's really crazy. Here in the south of France, we had about a week of warm and sunny weather with one day reaching 30C - then we woke up to 4C this morning with heavy wind and a forecast predicting the total average of May's rainfall within the next week!

It's snowing in California too! (In higher altitudes for the most part, but still out of the ordinary)

Hail, sleet and snow slams southern California
 
Andromeda said:
Geez, that's really crazy. Here in the south of France, we had about a week of warm and sunny weather with one day reaching 30C - then we woke up to 4C this morning with heavy wind and a forecast predicting the total average of May's rainfall within the next week!

Same her in Belgium. Last week, it felt like summer. This week it's really cold! I hear that tomorrow, it's supposed to warm up...
 
truth seeker said:
Andromeda said:
Geez, that's really crazy. Here in the south of France, we had about a week of warm and sunny weather with one day reaching 30C - then we woke up to 4C this morning with heavy wind and a forecast predicting the total average of May's rainfall within the next week!

Same her in Belgium. Last week, it felt like summer. This week it's really cold! I hear that tomorrow, it's supposed to warm up...

Scotland had another arctic blast at the end of last week and beginning of this one. Although spring weather is quite unstable, still it's more like November weather.
 
Kniall said:
Andromeda said:
Geez, that's really crazy. Here in the south of France, we had about a week of warm and sunny weather with one day reaching 30C - then we woke up to 4C this morning with heavy wind and a forecast predicting the total average of May's rainfall within the next week!

It's snowing in California too! (In higher altitudes for the most part, but still out of the ordinary)

Hail, sleet and snow slams southern California

No snow here south of the Grapevine. I actually didn't know there was any before you mentioned the article - thanks for informing me!

Today it's about 60 F, but yesterday it got up to 80 F. It's weird, because I remember it being about 90 F this time of the year. We've also got a lot of rain these past few months, which is welcome because it's been so dry.

Anyone want to switch weather with me? I love snow! :)
 
It's been unseasonably wet and cool in southern Arizona this spring -- I've actually been really enjoying it, since I usually dread the onset of summer here, but we are usually stuck in the 90s (Fahrenheit) by May and so far there has been a lot of variation.
 
Yep, it is snowing in Northern Alberta, Canada too. Not sure if it's unusual, since we had the same thing last year. After a period of really nice and warm weather, past several days were really windy and cold including hail-like rain. And now it's snowing ( -1C outside) but should get warmer toward the end of the week.
 
Here in Wisconsin, the whole last month has felt like summer (60-70F for highs). I've never known it to be this warm so early. Most people already had their gardens planted by May 1st!

On the other hand we've had virtually no precipitation during this time either. Everything is drying out.
 
Kniall said:
_http://www.diario.com.mx/nota.php?notaid=456ce7a8e5c4435aa38dcd6813a76f73

I haven't yet found an article on this in English, but I ran the above one through Google Translate. Perhaps a Spanish speaker can smooth it out? Thanks!

I made some editions, I hope is good enough:

The 50th cold wave entered Friday night to the [Chihuahua] State, and caused a snowfall in 18 municipalities. The snow reached 18 centimeters in Ignacio Zaragoza and 12 centimeters in Gomez Farías.

In the state capital, the weather phenomenon took people by surprise, since for 32 years it did not snow in May, said spokesman of the State Civil Protection Unit, Martín de la Rosa.

The municipalities that were covered in white from the early hours of Saturday are: Aldama, Aquiles Serdan, Bocoyna, Buenaventura, Casas Grandes, Cuauhtémoc, Chihuahua, Galeana, Gomez Farias, Guachochi, Guerrero, Ignacio Zaragoza, Madera, Matachi, Ocampo, Riva Palacio, San Juanito and Temosachic. It also snowed in San Juanito, Creel, Cusárare and in the region of Divisadero.

In the areas of Rubio and Anahuac, snow fell more intensely, while the inhabitants of Bachíniva, Namiquipa and Riva Palacio, also reported to the Civil Protection Unit of this phenomenon.

In the capital, a light rain began between 4:00 and 5:00 am, with a temperature of 3 degrees Celsius and a wind chill of -2 degrees, about 7:00 am the first flakes of snow began to fall, and the largest ones were found in the south of the city.

In 1982 there was a climate very similar to the one of yesterday in the capital. The snow came as a surprise to the Chihuahuans who went out to go to work, and in most cases they had to bring out again their jackets.

The spokesman for the State Civil Protection Unit (UEPC), urged people to exercise extreme caution as the climate will continue later in the day cloudy and wet, but rain was ruled out for today.

"The 50th cold wave that caused the snow, continues on his way to the south of the state, so there is a possibility of snow in that region," concluded Martin de la Rosa.
 
This news is not anything new, but i remember that after this eruption of Pinatubo in the Philippines that summer ( in Oakland, California ) never really seemed to ever come into the cycle of seasonal change. And that whole year after that episode was always clouded and cooler that year. With fewer days or weeks of heat that summer season. Seems that this would be stretch and a bit premature, but have they begun the process of starving the planet with most recent eruption and perhaps more to come dare i say of this sycotic activity? And are we seeing the beginning of the coming ice age issues that have been talked about by Scott and the C's? I aim not asking just scratching the head a little. :umm:

'Sunshade' for global warming could cause drought
08:13 02 August 2007 by Catherine Brahic
Pumping sulphur particles into the atmosphere to mimic the cooling effect of a large volcanic eruption has been proposed as a last-ditch solution to combating climate change - but doing so would cause problems of its own, including potentially catastrophic drought, say researchers.

Sulphur "sunshades" are just one example of a "geo-engineering" solution to climate change. Such solutions involve artificially modifying our climate to counteract the effects of human greenhouse gas emission. Other examples include space mirrors and iron fertilisation of the ocean (see also Sunshade for the planet.

Recent research has suggested that sulphur sunshades could rapidly cool the climate back down to pre-industrial temperatures (see Solar shield could be quick fix for global warming).

However, a study, led by Ken Caldeira of the Carnegie Institution of Washington in the US, warned that failing to correctly deploy or maintain such a scheme would result in sudden warming - which would be worse than the long-term warming that had been avoided because of its swiftness.

Now, Kevin Trenberth and Aiguo Dai of the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Colorado, US, have shown that - even if correctly deployed - a sulphur sunshade could have deleterious effects on the environment by reducing rainfall.

Cooling cloud
Sulphur sunshades are inspired by the cooling effects of large volcanic eruptions, which blast sulphate particles into the stratosphere. The particles reflect part of the Sun's radiation back into space, reducing the amount of heat that reaches the Earth. In 1991, the eruption of Mount Pinatubo in the Philippines cooled Earth by a few tenths of a degree for several years.

To study the effects that sulphur sunshades might have on rainfall, Trenberth and Dai looked at trends in precipitation and continental run-off from 1950 to 2004 to try to detect the impact of the eruptions of Mount Agung in Indonesia 1963, El Chichón in Mexico in 1982, and Pinatubo in 1991.

The researchers had to account for the effects of El Niño, which tends to decrease rain over land, and increase it over the oceans. After this, a marked decrease in rainfall and run-off in the year after the Pinatubo eruption was clear (see graph, right).

However, the Agung and El Chichón eruptions did not produce a detectable signal in the precipitation records. Pinatubo is thought to have pumped significantly more particles into the atmosphere than Agung and El Chichón, releasing aerosols that increased the optical density of the atmosphere by about 10 times more than each of the other two. "We think those two were not strong enough to have an effect on precipitation," says Dai.

Dai and Trenberth say their results suggest that artificially putting large amounts of sulphate particles into the atmosphere in order to decrease solar radiation could have catastrophic effects on the planet's water cycle. "Creating a risk of widespread drought and reduced freshwater resources does not seem like an appropriate fix," they say.

They note that the negative effects experienced after Pinatubo erupted were harshest in the tropics.






Volcanoes put a lot of stuff into the stratosphere that can produce global cooling, but we don't have a lot of good observations," [Jerry Meehl] adds. "Pinatubo was a large explosion and produced a significant global climate effect, so we were able to get really good observations about what was spewed into the atmosphere. It's helped us reconstruct a history of past volcanoes that we can put into a [long-term] climate model."

Pinatubo was much different from the 1980 eruption of Mount St. Helens in Washington, which blew sideways. Its gaseous plume stayed relatively low. Pinatubo went up like a geyser.

"Pinatubo was huge," [Chip Trepte] says. "It went into both hemispheres and the debris moved over the globe very quickly. So we learned a lot about circulation patterns in the upper atmosphere. It's like putting a color dye in a sink or bathtub, so you can see how the fluid moves. Pinatubo created a laboratory for us where we could observe all these motions in the atmosphere

International Herald Tribune
05-09-2001
The sky darkened and the ground shook. It sounded like a ''stampede of 100,000 animals,'' said a Filipino who witnessed it. When Mount Pinatubo erupted 10 years ago, it spewed a column of ash 40 kilometers (25 miles) into the sky. Fist-sized rocks and sand rained down here for weeks, blanketing the area with a moon-like layer of ash that stretched for dozens of kilometers, a ''giant sand trap,'' in the words of a resident. The eruption, on June 15, 1991, was the second biggest of the 20th century, according to the U.S. Geological Survey. Nearly 1,000 people were crushed by collapsing roofs or swept away by mud slides. The …
Pinatubo Validates Climate Model
Released: 1/22/1997 12:00 AM EST
Source: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Los Alamos National Laboratory
James E. Rickman, (505)665-9203/elvis@lanl.gov

LOS ALAMOS COMPUTER MODEL ACCURATELY PREDICTS GLOBAL CLIMATE EFFECTS OF PINATUBO ERUPTION

PUERTO VALLARTA, MEXICO, Jan. 20, 1997 - The world's gotten a little colder since the 1991 eruption of Mount Pinatubo in the Philippines.

But Los Alamos National Laboratory researcher Jim Kao said the eruption has helped validate the accuracy of a Los Alamos computer model of Earth's climate.

Kao, who works in Los Alamos' Atmospheric and Climate Sciences Group, today at the International Association of Volcanology and Chemistry of the Earth's Interior 1997 General Assembly in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico, presented information about how the Pinatubo eruption has helped deplete Earth's ozone layer, increase global cooling and validate Los Alamos' three-dimensional global climate model.

When the mountain erupted for a two-month period in 1991, with a major eruption on June 15, 1991, it spewed millions of tons of sulfur compounds into the atmosphere. About a month later, the sulfate aerosols had formed a wide band around Earth's middle latitudes. This, in turn, began a cycle of damage -- a cycle different than the damage to lives and property suffered by Filipinos who felt the mountain's fury firsthand.

"Sulfate aerosols play a very important role in the chemical reactions that help deplete Earth's ozone layer," Kao said. "In aerosol form, the sulfur dioxide mixes with water vapor and forms sulfuric acid, an important catalyst in ozone depletion reactions. Not only that, but when we get ozone depletion, we get a little bit of a cooling effect because ozone normally acts as a greenhouse gas by trapping heat from surface-emitted terrestrial radiation; it also absorbs direct sunlight. In addition, ozone depletion reactions involving sulfate aerosols work better at lower temperatures. So we can guess that volcanic eruptions might play an important role in ozone depletion worldwide."

To test the hypothesis, Kao and colleagues Xuepeng Zhao and Richard P. Turco of the University of California, Los Angeles, and Los Alamos collaborator Scott Elliott used the Los Alamos global climate model to show what effects the Mount Pinatubo eruption might have had on Earth's global climate.

The model predicted that the amount of sulfate aerosols released by the eruption was ideal to promote sustained ozone depletion reactions.

The model predicted that Earth's ozone layer would deplete by about 12 percent during the winter of 1992 and 1993. Satellite data collected that winter indicated that the ozone levels had depleted by about 15 percent.

But more than that, the Los Alamos global climate model predicted that a wind vortex encircling the Arctic -- which traps and segregates ozone and ozone-destructive chemicals during the winter months and gives rise to an uninterrupted period of ozone depletion -- would remain for a longer period than normal after the eruption.

During the winter, less sunlight reaches the pole and the area becomes cooler. Prevailing westward winds begin to circle the pole until a vortex surrounds a center of calm -- where ozone and the ozone-depleting chemicals can interact undisturbed. When the region warms during spring months, the vortex breaks, and the trapped air mass begins mixing with mid-latitude air masses.

"Since there was a depletion of ozone levels during the winter of 1992-93, and since ozone is a greenhouse gas that absorbs heat, we would expect to see the polar vortex last longer because the area inside the vortex would remain colder longer," Kao said. "During the winter of 1992-93, as the model predicted, we didn't see the polar vortex break until two weeks later than normal." Kao and his colleagues will adjust the model to account for actual observed ozone levels, atmospheric circulation and heating patterns, and chemical reaction rates.

"The ultimate goal is to develop a very accurate three- dimensional model including comprehensive chemistry that will help us understand the intricacies of the global climate," said Kao. "Fortunately, we had something as unfortunate as the 1991 eruption of Mount Pinatubo that we could use as a way to test and validate our model."

Funding for the global climate model and Kao and his colleagues' research comes in part from Los Alamos' Institute for Geophysics and Planetary Physics.

Los Alamos National Laboratory is operated by the University of California for the U.S. Department of Energy. [/quote]
 
Just lost power here for about 10 seconds in the whole valley, as it continues to snow.
 
Just to add there was hail 4 days ago here in Sweden, Gothenburg, not unheard of but quite rare this time of year. The thing is, that day had really good and warm weather before and after the hail. Sub-zero rain, that melted just as it hit the ground. Guess the atmosphere is trying to tell us something :)
 
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