Izzat, Freier, or My Truth. From India to the liberal mind.
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@Bluegazer, this is useful though I see Grok is running away a little bit with pattern recognition. Izzat translates to honour in english although what matters is the way its practiced and applied in the daily life. I was born in India and have lived there for 18-19 years before emigrating. I felt quite similar to that author in the Zerohedge article and was often singled out for thinking differently to the entire world.
From my observation and lived experiences, the root cause primarily stems from the caste system which has created and maintained a pseudo-geographical division between the masses. Basically, you will have different caste of people living in the same neighbourhood or postcode and visiting their homes will feel like crossing into another state. And this co-habitation also adds fuel to the growing resentment towards each other. It is understood and accepted norm that the streets are meant to be cleaned by the downtrodden or the scheduled castes. The scheduled castes can be considered as the poorest of people and closer to the naked tribes roaming the jungles; onlt they don't anymore and have helped themsevles to mud-houses with straw roofs. This is why the middle and the higher Indian classes, to whom the western countries and their populace are exposed to, discover that the former are serial litterers and have very littel consideration for common good. This western reaction is a surprise to the Indians who are used to living in a certain way because it would be dishonourable for them to stoop to the levels of cleaning the streets.
Now, a lot of the professional Indians with good education, who have emigrated, do take care to not litter and have somewhat better moral values but that's a minority because I notice the majority immigration is from a poorer background by exploiting the systemic loopholes. They are clowns back home and they are clowns away from home too. I see them everywhere on the streets and in houses nearby and I'd say that send them back right away as they will never integrate with the western society and its good Christian values.
Now, if you consider rapes etc, those have always been the norm in Indian subcontinent and go back thousands of years. But, then, this could be considered a normal thing in most places and cultures which were not reformed by the Christianity. The caste system, exacerbates the problem whereby raping a lower caste's girl is par for the course and a just punishment for some minor infringement. In some cases, it would even be accepted by the girl's father as a just thing due to their status and lack of upward mobility. The girl is a disposable unit and could suffer this much to protect the father. The caste system was/is extemely rigid. In other cases, rape was done to take revenge from a competing caste or faction. There were rapes a plenty during the India/Pakistan partition crisis and all of them hold a terrible memory of that era, being kept alive by the power of social media where Hindus and Muslims engage freely.
Most of the Indian religions, Hindu being the mainstream now, have formed around the do's and don't of the caste system and their purveyors. Everything else flows from it naturally as shit flows.
I have to run but will write more on this when time permits.
From my observation and lived experiences, the root cause primarily stems from the caste system which has created and maintained a pseudo-geographical division between the masses. Basically, you will have different caste of people living in the same neighbourhood or postcode and visiting their homes will feel like crossing into another state. And this co-habitation also adds fuel to the growing resentment towards each other. It is understood and accepted norm that the streets are meant to be cleaned by the downtrodden or the scheduled castes. The scheduled castes can be considered as the poorest of people and closer to the naked tribes roaming the jungles; onlt they don't anymore and have helped themsevles to mud-houses with straw roofs. This is why the middle and the higher Indian classes, to whom the western countries and their populace are exposed to, discover that the former are serial litterers and have very littel consideration for common good. This western reaction is a surprise to the Indians who are used to living in a certain way because it would be dishonourable for them to stoop to the levels of cleaning the streets.
Now, a lot of the professional Indians with good education, who have emigrated, do take care to not litter and have somewhat better moral values but that's a minority because I notice the majority immigration is from a poorer background by exploiting the systemic loopholes. They are clowns back home and they are clowns away from home too. I see them everywhere on the streets and in houses nearby and I'd say that send them back right away as they will never integrate with the western society and its good Christian values.
Now, if you consider rapes etc, those have always been the norm in Indian subcontinent and go back thousands of years. But, then, this could be considered a normal thing in most places and cultures which were not reformed by the Christianity. The caste system, exacerbates the problem whereby raping a lower caste's girl is par for the course and a just punishment for some minor infringement. In some cases, it would even be accepted by the girl's father as a just thing due to their status and lack of upward mobility. The girl is a disposable unit and could suffer this much to protect the father. The caste system was/is extemely rigid. In other cases, rape was done to take revenge from a competing caste or faction. There were rapes a plenty during the India/Pakistan partition crisis and all of them hold a terrible memory of that era, being kept alive by the power of social media where Hindus and Muslims engage freely.
Most of the Indian religions, Hindu being the mainstream now, have formed around the do's and don't of the caste system and their purveyors. Everything else flows from it naturally as shit flows.
I have to run but will write more on this when time permits.
As I mentioned in another post:
But as you have seen, beyond the use of Grok, I try to gather evidence as objectively as possible.
All countries have their underclass/Lumpenproletariat. What makes me raise an eyebrow is seeing why there is a massive influx of immigrants who clearly cannot function in other societies and cultures given their tribalism and serious endogamous problems, which ultimately end up being a terrible burden on states that are already weakened by pathocratic elements, be left or right.
And well, you know. The exceptions can be counted on the fingers of one hand.
For now, I will continue to investigate, but so far, if you have read all the posts, I have only limited myself to asking questions and sharing articles. I don't think I have made any value or moral judgments. If I did, I retract them.
All countries have their underclass/Lumpenproletariat. What makes me raise an eyebrow is seeing why there is a massive influx of immigrants who clearly cannot function in other societies and cultures given their tribalism and serious endogamous problems, which ultimately end up being a terrible burden on states that are already weakened by pathocratic elements, be left or right.
And well, you know. The exceptions can be counted on the fingers of one hand.
For now, I will continue to investigate, but so far, if you have read all the posts, I have only limited myself to asking questions and sharing articles. I don't think I have made any value or moral judgments. If I did, I retract them.
Sindy-S.R
Padawan Learner
@sid, I'll explain my point of view, and I "believe" this is what @Bluegazer is also trying to convey in this post.
Correct me if I'm wrong, please!
What you're describing is just one of the many ways the 4D STS forces have long created Loosh (emotional energy), Loosh, and more Loosh.
The social pressure of the caste system in India is very strong.
And India is a GOLD mine for 4D STS entities or a MEGA supermarket...
Here @Laura explains it very well, and you also make a good comment in this post:
@Laura, thanks a million! 
Your substack.com has clarified an idea that I intuit (from reading on the topic, observing sociopolitical, historical, geopolitical, financial, and technological events - social media).
I'm mainly referring to this latest substack post, a truly illuminating and insightful one!:
Your substack.com has clarified an idea that I intuit (from reading on the topic, observing sociopolitical, historical, geopolitical, financial, and technological events - social media).I'm mainly referring to this latest substack post, a truly illuminating and insightful one!:
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Well, that's precisely one of the questions I had in mind and wrote about in the posts in this thread:
And despite some of the things Grok articulates, even I didn't guide him to give me the answer I wanted;
Then:
Having seen all the content and what has been discussed in the thread, these societies are in constant survival mode.
And in comparison to a supermarket, they are the KFC, the McDonald's of loosh. Fast-food loosh, less refined. This is because the quality of impressions in their daily lives is quite poor. More advanced societies would be the gourmet variant of loosh, since the dramas are more complex, but perhaps scarcer.
And if we take into account that there are now more people who do not want to be food (via awakening), then it would not be unreasonable to think that they want to introduce elements that seek to increase the production of gourmet loosh.
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