Sure. I have to watch it again to do that and right now I'm at the hour mark. Took some notes. But decided I would use AI for the rest of the interview, which I hesitated at first because the information there is very specific and relevant in that way and also connects to other information throughout the interview, but I also don't have the time to watch again now for 4h so I'll first write my notes here and then see what the AI has to say about it.
Main topics in the interview are about Nazis, their technology, secret programs, geopolitical interests then and in present also, infiltration of
the Nazi intelligence in or rather the transformation of the same in to the American deep state and the like; UFOs and Aliens, time travel in that context, also Antarctica connection and Aryan people/aliens.
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
01:57 THE DEATH OF PHILOSOPHY & THE RISE OF PARAPSYCHOLOGY
05:27 ETHICS, AESTHETICS & THE LOST ART OF THINKING
09:12 RELIGION VS PURE PHILOSOPHY
12:11 HEIDEGGER, STRAUSS & THE QUESTION OF TRUE PHILOSOPHERS
14:44 AVICENNA, FEAR & INTELLECTUAL MARTYRDOM
17:44 ARISTOTLE, ALEXANDER & THE ONE WORLD ORDER
19:37 PHILOSOPHER VS STATE | THE PERIL OF IDEAS
23:13 NIETZSCHE, HISTORY & THE MONUMENTAL PAST
28:30 R.A.N.D., UFO TECH & THE MAGENTA CRASH (1933)
31:43 SKODA WORKS | THE BELL & ZERO-POINT ENERGY
35:12 MEMORY METAL, GERMAN TECH & ROSWELL DEBRIS
38:40 DEGLOCKE | ANTI-GRAVITY & TIME DISTORTION
42:10 TORSION FIELDS, TIME TRAVEL & HUMAN EXPERIMENTS
51:19 NAZI SAUCER PROPULSION & THE WONDER WEAPONS
53:13 FRANCO, SCORZENY & THE SPAIN LAUNCHES
55:58 OPERATION PAPERCLIP & THE BIRTH OF THE CIA
1:02:18 ODESSA, SPECTRE & THE TRUE DEEP STATE
1:05:18 RICHTER’S ARGENTINE FUSION PROJECT
1:07:14 NAZI NUKES, FISSION VS FUSION & SECRET TESTS
1:13:11 DID THE U.S. TRADE WITH THE SS FOR URANIUM?
1:16:09 CLEAN FUSION WEAPONS & THE HIDDEN DEAL
1:17:14 THE REAL NAZI VICTORY | 1945–2045 SOCIAL ENGINEERING
1:23:30 WELTANSCHAUUNGSKRIEG | THE WORLDVIEW WAR
1:31:07 THE VRIL SOCIETY & SUPERMAN TELEPATHY
1:34:29 ANTARCTICA | ATLANTIS REDISCOVERED
1:41:36 RUDOLF HESS, SECRET FLIGHTS & PEACE OFFERS
1:44:18 BLACK OCTAGON STRUCTURE | ANTARCTIC DISCLOSURE
1:47:32 OPERATION HIGHJUMP & ADMIRAL BYRD’S WARNING
1:49:27 THE BIRTH OF THE NATIONAL SECURITY STATE
1:52:11 ATLANTIS, IRAN & THE ARYAN ORIGINS
1:55:43 EARTH CRUST DISPLACEMENT & POLE SHIFT THEORY
2:00:23 THE TUNGUSKA EVENT & ENERGY WEAPON HYPOTHESIS
2:05:48 ATLANTEAN SURVIVORS & TIME WAR CIVILIZATION
2:10:39 REINHOLD SCHMIDT & EARLY ALIEN CONTACTS
2:15:33 DESMOND LESLIE, VENUSIANS & THE GREAT DECEPTION
2:17:12 KNIGHTS OF MALTA, BLACKMAIL & POWER NETWORKS
2:21:46 COSMIC FACTIONS | ANGELS, ASURAS & CONTROL SYSTEMS
2:25:13 THE ANGELIC HIVE MIND & SOUL MACHINERY
2:31:16 THE MOON AS A CONSCIOUSNESS HARVESTER
2:36:22 REMOTE VIEWING, MOKSHA & SOLAR SYSTEM WAR
2:40:16 PROMETHEUS, HUMAN ORIGINS & THE FIRE OF GODS
2:42:21 THE NORDICS, NUKES & INTERVENTION
2:52:50 TEMPORAL DISORIENTATION & MISSING 411
3:03:19 MEN IN BLACK, MANTIDS & THE PSYCHOLOGICAL TRICKSTER
3:16:29 THE OWLS, LUCIFER & THE COSMIC TEST
3:35:19 PHILOSOPHY VS FAITH | PROMETHEAN REBELLION
3:41:02 THEATER OF CONSCIOUSNESS | THE COSMIC PLAY
Notes up to 1h mark:
As an intro to the interview, Jason says that he would first like to explain why philosophers should be dealing with the topics of phenomena like close encounters and parapsychology.
"...I think that one of the most significant crises that we face in our civilization and, you know, in the world at large is the decline of philosophy. Um, the reduction of philosophy to academic scholasticism and logic chopping, uh and the lack of uh deep serious broad-spectrum thinking that would be capable of for example tackling the close encounter phenomenon, right. I mean obviously
it should be philosophers who are engaging both with the data of close encounters and parapsychological data. Uh, in fact you know there were people in philosophy um who played a fundamental role in development of parapsychology at its outset. Both
William James and
Henry Bergson were among the founding parapsychologists in the era of psychical research."
"...and James had predicted uh in the era when he was the president of the society for psychical research that this would be the next great scientific revolution. What I in my writings have called the spectral revolution. And it didn't happen. And, you know, in my first book Prometheus and Atlas I ventured a um, you know, a basically theory of why it didn't happen. And that's because of the extremely serious psychological and sociological implications of mainstream acceptance of things like telepathy, precognition, clairvoyance and so forth.
And so, you know, it's not only essential for philosophers to engage with the ontological and epistemological questions inherent in parapsychological data or close encounter phenomena, but also the ethical and political ramifications. And this brings me to what I wanted to say in response to your opening, which is that...I've made an argument now in several of my books that it's definitional to the type of the philosopher to develop concepts that cut across all of the major domains of philosophy, from ontology and epistemology to then an ethics and the politics that follow from that ontological and epistemic thinking, and then also I think aesthetics is very important. From the time of Plato onward there's been this idea that uh the cultivation of aesthetic discernment and the capacity to percieve the beautiful or the sublime is also another pathway to knowledge. And perhaps to a kind of knowledge that transcends or undergards reductive rationality."
"...to be a philosopher, you really have to be thinking across all of the main domains and developing concepts that cut across them above all because you cannot have any unquestioned presuppositions."
After these words, the discussion continues about philosophy and its applications for man in the community throughout history and to this day, and implicitly reaches into the future of man; Some other philosophers in our history are also discussed (in short) such as Aristotle, Nietzsche, Heidegger, Kant...
Shortly thereafter, they discuss the technological development and capacity of Nazi Germany, and Jason develops a theory that The Roswell incident may have been linked to the Nazis. (The basis of this theory is the work
The Day After Roswell;
Saucers Swastikas And Psyops;
The Hunt For Zero Point...)
"[Jason]...and he went in detail into various cutting edge German techonoligal innovations of the 1940s. Particularly military engineering.
And he makes a number of really significant points in this regard. Uh, among the things found at Roswell, according to Corso, was Kevlar, Velcro, Night vision and Fiber optics. [Jesse]: And lasers, I belive. [Jason]And lasers. Every...now, this I mean, okay, I guess space alines could be using Kevlar. Maybe they could be using Velcro, too. But Farrell researched this and he provides documentation that shows that the Germans had invented every single one of this in the 1940s. They were not in common use. They were not even accessible to the majority of the German military, but they were being tested uh, you know, as sort of cutting edge weapons technology especially like in the North African desert in 1943-44'."
"[Jason]...German subsidiary of IBM, a company called
Dehomag was way ahead. Not only of like all the other American transistor manufacturers, but ahead of the American IBM...[Jesse]But this brings up two really important questions. One is what caused this just general technological acceleration in Nazi Germany in the, you know, 30s and 40s...I mean look at
V2 rockets are like 20 30 years ahead of anything in the west. Um you know all the
Wunderwaffe, you know, their fighter jest were, the skunk works was kind of a response to the fact that their fighter jets were running circles around ours. So what accounts for that? A and then B, if they are so advanced technologically, why did the United States ultimately, you know, prevail and beat them in World War II?"
To this, Jason replies that he would first explain a little more about the interests of the Nazis in the context of technology, and then later returned to those questions; discussing of "Black" projects related to propulsion systems,
die Glocke... This discussion is interesting because it also mentions the variability in time that has occurred as a result of working on such projects...there are also some people involved in all this, such as
Ernst-Robert Grawitz,
Josef Mengele,
Walther Gerlach,
Thomas Townsend Brown...
Another thing that is interesting to me personally is the integration of the Nazis into American intelligence. Specific
Gehlen Organization. So he says:
"What fewer people know about is the incorporation of the Gehlen Organization into American intelligence. So remember, The Soviets are marching across all of Eastern Europe, taking all this territory that had been part of the Reich. There is a whole network of Nazi SS affiliated intelligence operatives in Eastern Europe who continue to be embedded there as the Soviets are marching over the territory. So what happens in 1945 when America "wins" the war, immediately at a strategic level it's understood that our enemy is now the Soviet Union
and the world is divided at Berlin right...and if we are going to uh conduct successful espionage on the Soviets we would have to build a vast spy network in Eastern Europe. Well there's already one there. It's the network that was run by General Reinhard Gehlen. So our OSS makes a deal with
General Gehlen to absorb his entire Nazi spy network in Eastern Europe as part of the creation of the CIA. Part of the creation of the CIA and of West German intelligence which was very closely affiliated with the CIA....So it's not just the case that CIA brought over all these Nazi scientists. The CIA that did that was co-constituted by absorbing an SS spy network."
AI summary after 1h mark:
After the 1 h mark, Jorjani begins asserting that
Nazi science and intelligence networks didn’t disappear in 1945 — they were integrated into U.S. and other Allied programs. He frames
Operation Paperclip as not just a tech transfer, but part of a broader continuity of
hidden Nazi-era influence in postwar intelligence and deep-state structures.
He suggests that
former SS scientists, engineers, and occult researchers were absorbed into new institutions (CIA, aerospace, etc.) and that
this shaping force persisted for decades, influencing policy and secrecy around advanced technologies.
Jorjani then elaborates on the topic of UFOs — which is one of the central controversial claims in the interview:
1) Nazi Advanced Engineering & Saucer Projects
- He references German experimental research at places like the Skoda Works purportedly involving zero-point energy, anti-gravity, and exotic propulsion systems.ar15.com
- The infamous Die Glocke (“The Bell”) is mentioned: a secret SS device allegedly generating torsion fields, time effects, and anomalous physics. According to the narrative, this was tested and possibly integrated into larger craft designs.ar15.com
- Jorjani suggests that Nazi engineers explored boundary-layer suction and saucer-shaped airframes, connecting aerodynamic experimentation to proto-UFO designs.Metacast: podcast app with transcripts
These claims mix documented WWII tech advances with
speculative theories about secret aerospace programs. They also tie into fringe narratives about what ended up at Roswell, with some saying
memory metals and other exotic materials were found there (often cited via later literature like Corso and Vesco).
ar15.com
Jorjani moves into
Antarctic speculation:
- He repeats a common UFO-conspiracy theme that secret Nazi bases or research facilities remain under the ice, potentially tied to Atlantis or ancient civilizations.Reddit
- There’s mention of black octagonal structures and hidden ruins beneath the ice — stories drawn from fringe sources about alleged discoveries of ancient technology or bases.YouTube
These ideas tie into the broader narrative of
a global hidden network that influences geopolitics and modern UFO discourse.
A significant part of the latter interview deals with claims about
Nazi nuclear/fusion technology:
- Jorjani mentions alleged secret tests in late WWII and an idea that Nazis pursued clean fusion weapons rather than fission bombs, and that this technology may have been traded for post-war integration into U.S. science.YouTube
- He speculates about knowledge of nuclear yields based on intercepted conversations between Heisenberg and colleagues after Hiroshima, suggesting they had deep understanding of atomic science.Metacast: podcast app with transcripts
These stories are not established by mainstream historians but are part of a broader
alternative history genre.
Rather than portraying UFOs strictly as extraterrestrial, Jorjani often frames them as:
- Possibly advanced human-engineered tech that evolved from WWII research.
- Part of a hidden aerospace race where intelligence agencies keep discoveries classified.Reddit
This aligns with some UFO-skeptic theories: that many sightings involve experimental craft developed under secrecy rather than alien vehicles.
Later in the interview he explores more metaphysical aspects:
- Jorjani touches on remote viewing, consciousness, and paranormal narratives — suggesting some UFO experiences tie into human perception, non-material intelligence, or psychological systems.YouTube
- He also references stories of encounters with beings (Nordic-type UFO entities) and interdimensional perspectives — though presented more as philosophical speculation than hard evidence.Reddit
These elements drift far from conventional explanations and blend UFO lore with
spiritual and esoteric interpretations.
Toward the end, the discussion becomes even more abstract, with themes such as:
- The idea that UFOs may be part of a control system of consciousness, and not simply physical craft.YouTube
- References to aliens as angels, demons, or metaphysical entities influencing belief systems.YouTube
This reflects philosophical questions about why UFO phenomena provoke deep cultural, psychological, and spiritual reactions.
