Jet crashes into Philadelphia residential area at high speed

[Joe]

I don't know of many pilots that would do that, unless they were Japanese pilots during WWII. Maybe someone else was 'directing' it,

Yeah, I wasn't suggesting the pilots crashed it into the ground, but someone else.

It does seem that the stall idea is unlikely, basically as someone already posted, the speed is too fast for free fall. Seems more like it was 'taken out' in some way. Maybe someone 'practicing' like in the LA fires.

 

[Beau]

Yeah, I wasn't suggesting the pilots crashed it into the ground, but someone else.

It does seem that the stall idea is unlikely, basically as someone already posted, the speed is too fast for free fall. Seems more like it was 'taken out' in some way. Maybe someone 'practicing' like in the LA fires.

Yeah I have a stronger suspicion that this one was remote controlled than the heli crash in DC. It makes no sense to fly straight down into the ground. We still need to see if there were other mechanical failures of course, but the lack of a mayday/SOS (that I'm aware of) is a red flag.

 

[mkrnhr]

As much as the DC collision could be a deep state message, I think there are good chances the Philadelphia crash is an accident, unless it's a cryptogeographic manifestation of some sort. Accidents like this one seem to happen from time to time when the posterior wings fail to activate (from what I could understand) after take off. The plane becomes uncontrollable, turns its side or even on its back, and falls more and more vertically with increased velocity if the engines are still on.

 

[Joe]

Yeah I have a stronger suspicion that this one was remote controlled than the heli crash in DC.

I got something coming on that one. I can't see any other explanation than the heli was deliberately crashed into the plane.

 

[Beau]

I got something coming on that one. I can't see any other explanation than the heli was deliberately crashed into the plane.

Certainly my first blink. One of those gold top helis that transports VIPs like Trump gets flown right into a jet. Heck of a message to send. And with so many people saying, "this was bound to happen at some point," there's a good cover story.

 

[Joe]

“We also have debris in a remote area where something happened with the aircraft,” he says, without elaborating.

This part needs to be explained. Maybe something fell off after take off. Maybe sabotage? Or maybe just age?

 

[Joe]

with so many people saying, "this was bound to happen at some point," there's a good cover story.

Yeah, literally tens of thousands of helicopter flights (including military) over the past 5 years, and no problems. But 10 days into Trump's term and on the evening of RFK jrs confirmation hearing and the day before Gabbard's. Sorry, bit too much coincidence for me.

 

[Joe]

Any explanation for the Jet disappearing from radar and then crashing 40 seconds later?

A medical plane carrying a child patient and 5 others crashes in Philadelphia, setting homes ablaze

A medical transport jet carrying a child patient, her mother and four others has crashed into a Philadelphia neighborhood about 30 seconds after taking off.

apnews.com

The crash happened less than 3 miles (5 kilometers) from Northeast Philadelphia Airport, which primarily serves business jets and charter flights.

The Learjet 55 quickly disappeared from radar after taking off from the airport at 6:06 p.m. and climbing to an altitude of 1,600 feet (487 meters). It was registered to a company operating as Med Jets, according to the flight tracking website Flight Aware.

 

[Mari]

the speed is too fast for free fall.

It makes no sense to fly straight down into the ground.

Reading this latest observations, it reminds me of that ship that crashed into the bridge last year and the Cs said

Q: (L) Did we ask about the ship that hit the Francis Scott Key Bridge?

(Niall) No.

(A Jay) Was the steering of the ship into the Francis Scott Key Bridge deliberate and premeditated?

A: No

Q: (A Jay) If not, what caused the power failure of the ship?

A: Power failure had nothing to do with impact. Was side effect of bleedthrough of 4D energies.

Maybe the pilot thought he was flying straight?

 

[Ca.]

New Analysis & NTSB Updates on the Philadelphia Learjet 55 Crash

A medical jet crashed into a commercial and residential area shortly after takeoff from Northeast Philadelphia Airport on Jan. 31, 2025, killing all on board. Now, aviation expert @jeffostroff

Newly released NTSB crash site footage Cockpit Voice Recorder (CVR) & Flight Data Recovered Surveillance videos & witness statements obtained Engines & wreckage sent for further examination breaks down the crash, analyzing probable causes and revealing what he believes to be the most likely root cause.

The NTSB’s preliminary report is expected within 30 days, with the final report determining probable cause in 12-24 months.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1886689902701457709

 

[Yupo]

I find it hard to believe that an experienced pilot would not have the sense to rely on instruments in foggy conditions. I'm leaning to loss of consciousness or other loss of control.

 

[Beau]

As much as the DC collision could be a deep state message, I think there are good chances the Philadelphia crash is an accident, unless it's a cryptogeographic manifestation of some sort. Accidents like this one seem to happen from time to time when the posterior wings fail to activate (from what I could understand) after take off. The plane becomes uncontrollable, turns its side or even on its back, and falls more and more vertically with increased velocity if the engines are still on.

I'm reading more comments in different places by pilots, I think you may be right. Some sort of mechanical failure like part of the left wing breaking off (which would explain the remote debris found). By the time the plane leaves the clouds on descent, there's about a second before it crashes. Not enough time to do anything, if spatial disorientation was a factor at all. It might just be coincidence that it happened so soon after the DC crash.

 

[Ruth]

I got something coming on that one. I can't see any other explanation than the heli was deliberately crashed into the plane.

Even though this is the wrong thread for this discussion, that would take some serious skill to do, ( - apparently - deliberately crashing a helicopter into the plane), or crashing one fast moving object into another fast moving object, when both are moving quickly and in different directions. That is why I think, that on the balance of probabilities, it looks like 'an accident waiting to happen'. Particularly in that location. It is known by pilots as a horrendously dangerous and high risk one.

Anyway this is a video I posted on the other DC mid air collision thread - with particular reference to 7.08 min (commentators opinion of a deliberate accident, and skill required to do it) and 9.55 min (simulation from the blackhawk's perspective with night vision!), which I thought was very interesting. It's very hard to see another plane when it's coming towards you AND ambient light from the ground blocks out the light from an oncoming aircraft.

 

[Wandering Star]

Any explanation for the Jet disappearing from radar and then crashing 40 seconds later?

(Joe) What caused the shutdown of the solar observatory in New Mexico last week?

A: Funny you should ask.

Q: (Joe) Bell Witch Part 2: The Return? [laughter]

A: Not that severe, but similar and due to similar causes: unsettled EM energies. Precursor waves

 

[Joe]

Was hoping for something official.