Re-watching the interview , late into it at some point Joe goes on about saying to Theo how democrats and republicans don´t conspire together ( @ 2:46:57 in ) , which misses the larger picture , especially after the vax psy-op (...).
I haven’t listened to that JR episode yet; I think that JR and some people make an error by assuming both the Democrats and Republicans are each homogenous when the divide between deep state and non-deep state is more orthogonal across the parties. Even that is likely an oversimplification of competing tensions.
