Ken Lay's convenient passing. conflicting tales

[Danny]

O.K. I read the Forbes article and it said :
Pat Worcester, executive assistant to CEO at Aspen Valley Hospital, said Lay was admitted into the emergency room at 3:10 a.m. Wednesday. She said the hospital would release a statement later.

Then I read a cnn newsclip that read:
A spokeswoman for Aspen Valley Hospital confirmed that Lay arrived at the hospital at 1:41 a.m. MT and was pronounced dead at 3:11 a.m. MT.

So whatever you make of that..lol I honestly don't know,but I AM pretty convinced this was awfully convenient.

 

[Mr. Premise]

Xymphora http://xymphora.blogspot.com/2006/07/kenny-lives.html even suggests the death was faked!

Thursday, July 06, 2006
Kenny Boy lives!
Did Ken Lay fake his own death in order to stay out of jail and protect the family assets from forfeiture? He could move to Mexico or some island somewhere, confident that nobody in the American government would come looking for him. This kind of massive fraud fits the entire pattern of his life, and it seems much more likely than the official story that an obviously healthy man - as we could see from his court appearances a few months ago - suddenly, and conveniently, died.

 

[Danny]

Yeah he's probably out in Bermuda with Baxter partying it up :P.Seriously though I think I can believe the claim that he is dead....lol I'm sure he was ready to skweal like a pig and drop names faster than his shorts in a whore house.And all that had to be said was 3 simple words...."That can't happen".Strictly IMHO.

 

[Danny]

haha, satiation proffessional, i love it.
I think satiation technician has a better ring to it lol that's great though

 

[Mr. Premise]

Yeah, I've always been sceptical about the faked death thing (Elvis, Jim Morrison). But there's a first time for everything. You're probably right, though.

 

[Danny]

If you just couple it with the fact that our boys in the white house will stop at NOTHING to get what they want.It all add's up.What is truley sickening is the audacity that these people have literally put on a television show for us all to see and meanwhile the majorityof us eat it up!How much blood,pain and greed are these people going to get away with before anyone says NO MORE!

 

[paulnotbilly]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/5173228.stm


Enron witness found dead in park

Police said the body was found on the ground by a walker

A body found in east London parkland has been identified as a banker who was questioned by the FBI about the Enron fraud case, sources have told the BBC.

However, police say they are keeping an open mind about whether the death of Neil Coulbeck is linked to Enron case.

Mr Coulbeck, whose body was found in Chingford on Tuesday, worked for the Royal Bank of Scotland.

Three British former employees of subsidiary NatWest are being extradited to the US to face fraud charges.

The extradition has sparked a political row, with opposition parties and human rights groups claiming the treaty under which they are being sent to the US is one-sided.

Prime Minister Tony Blair has rejected calls to renegotiate the extradition terms.

Police said they were treating Mr Coulbeck's death as "unexplained".

His body was found in a park near Newgate Street, Chingford.

'One day when this is all over I'm going to be coming home to my wife and children and some poor guy is not' David Bermingham Facing extradition

Enron extradition row

Mr Coulbeck's wife had reported him missing on 6 July, but Scotland Yard said: "It is not yet established if the deceased is connected to this report.

"We believe [we] know the identity of the man but detailed inquiries are ongoing to confirm this."

Mr Coulbeck was the former head of financial markets in North America for RBS.

At Greenwich NatWest, he approved the transaction which is at the heart of the investigation into the so-called NatWest three.

He was not suspected of having profited personally from the deal but had been interviewed by the FBI.

The FBI said: "It is our policy to neither confirm or deny whether any individual has been interviewed or not regarding any case which we might be investigating.

"We have no comment to make of any sort and nor will we while this case is ongoing."

One of the former NatWest employees facing extradition, David Bermingham, said he had been "knocked sideways by the news" of Mr Coulbeck's death.

"It is awful, appalling. One day when this is all over I'm going to be coming home to my wife and children and some poor guy is not and my heart goes out to his wife and family."

In 2002, US prosecutors issued arrest warrants for the three men, accusing them of conspiring to defraud their employers and investors in collapsed US energy giant Enron.

It is alleged that the three bankers - Mr Bermingham, Gary Mulgrew and Giles Darby - were involved in a fraud in which their employer, Greenwich NatWest, was advised to sell off its stake in an Enron unit at well below its market value.

They then left the bank and purchased a $250,000 (

 

[paulnotbilly]

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1227489,00.html

A banker found dead and believed linked to a US fraud probe involving NatWest was allegedly "hounded by the FBI".

Married father-of-two Neil Coulbeck, 53, had gone missing from his home in Woodford Green, east London, on Thursday.

Civil rights group Liberty director Shami Chakrabarti, after Mr Coulbeck's body was found today, said friends of the dead man claimed America's Federal Bureau of Investigation had "hounded" him.

Sky News crime correspondent Martin Brunt said: "The man had been interviewed by the FBI. We don't know how important to the investigation he was but FBI sources suggest he was a pivotal character in the case."

Mr Coulbeck's body was discovered in Waltham Forest, east London. He was Head of Group Treasury at the Royal Bank of Scotland and is thought to have been a possible witness in the NatWest Three case.

The discovery comes as MPs debate the controversial decision to extradite three British bankers - dubbed the NatWest Three - to the US to face charges over the scandal.

The men, who previously worked for NatWest, are accused of taking part in a multi-million pound fraud connected to the collapse of Enron.
Mulgrew, Bermingham and Giles face extradition


All three - David Bermingham, Gary Mulgrew and Giles Darby - have denied any wrongdoing. They could spend up to two years in a high-security US prison awaiting trial unless they are granted bail.

The move to send them to Houston, Texas, is at the centre of a row over Britain's extradition agreement with the United States.

A deal to counter terrorism, agreed after the September 11 attacks in 2001, means the US can easily extradite British people to stand trial in America - even if the case has nothing to do with terrorism.

But because the US Senate has not ratified the deal, Britain does not have a similar right.

The Government insists that the deal makes little or no difference in practice. But Opposition politicians say it is unfair and one-sided.

Before Mr Coulbeck was named publicly, Mr Bermingham said the discovery of his body "put everything that's happened to us in perspective".

He said: "One day when this is all over I'm going to be coming home to my wife and children and some poor guy is not and my heart goes out to his wife and family."

He added: "(Mr Coulbeck) was a superstar, a thoroughly decent, honest professional guy and a very experienced banker."

The RBS, which owns NatWest, said there was "no evidence" that Mr Coulbeck had been involved in the transaction under investigation.

I spotted a couple of other places which suggested that the FBI had been 'hounding' Neil Coulbeck. There definitley is more to this than is being let on. One question would be why was the FBI hounding him, wouldn't it be more likely somebody who'd benefit from his death? If his involvement/testimony is as important as mentioned - what's the odds of the 'Natwest 3' trial collapsing due to the star witness being deceased?