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[Lakewolf]

I am beginning to read the works of Gurdjieff.

Could you recommend titles? I'm downloading from Scribd, so I can save what I'm reading & take notes.

I am in the process of writing a book (I think I mentioned this), so I'm setting up my life as a "curriculum".

I'm also prepared to research & blast away as many misconceptions I can about me and my relation to ...the Universe...I think that's the right way to put it.

I'll check the Forum daily to see if there's something I need to know.

My gratitutde for all of you and for this information is so great that I cannot express it in words.

 

[Jacques]

I am beginning to read the works of Gurdjieff. Could you recommend titles?

The best book on Gurdjieff and his teaching is "In Search of the Miraculous by P.D. Ouspensky".

I'm downloading from Scribd... I am in the process of writing a book

About that, take the time to read that thread:

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=10791.0

 

[Mountain Crown]

About the teachings of Gurdjieff, you may also wish to listen to the discussion by Laura, Joe, and Henry here; the transcript is available here.

There is a Part 2 and transcript.

 

[Lakewolf]

Where can I go to read it?

At the present time, we don't have enough to pay our bills and feed ourselves. That being said, I find it abhorrent that anyone would steal from another--intellectually or otherwise.

Is there somewhere I can go to recompensate either him or his heirs? My entire life has been spent helping others who have truly been in need---I don't plan on changing now.

I know you will ask, so I will give examples.

I paid for a woman's tank of gas to get back home when she had lost her wallet. I told her to remember what had been done for her, and help someone else, telling them the same thing. I have been doing this since March 21, 1977--the day it was done for me. While I was charged to do it only once, I made it the cornerstone of my life.

Other times I have:

*saved a woman who was suicidal, bringing her home & allowing her to sleep with me
* fixed people's cars numerous times, not charging them except as above, and, if at work, placing the money that would have been charged into the till myself with my money

I know there are others, but most I cannot remember.

Being an author myself, I do not wish to lose money owed to me. This is not because I am cheap, but because half of the money I receive will go to the people I am writing about.

Is there any other place than Scribd I can go to that is free like a public library is? I'm basically housebound, so it falls to Chris to run my errands for me.

 

[Mountain Crown]

Used copies of In search of the Miraculous can be obtained for as little as $3.95. BookFinder.

 

[Lakewolf]

I've obtained a membership at Questor Library (I think that's the name). I have so many papers and magazines that it's not funny, I can afford the $9.99 a month.

I will no longer use Scribd for any reason. Thanks for the info.

Laura, if you read this, I would be willing to do a pain relief session in exchange for a hypnotherapy session, if it wouldn't take too much out of you. Chris loves FL even though I don't, & once I make enough money, I owe her a vacation.

I hate hypnosis, but I trust you. I need a couple of attunements to practice Reiki again (I was a certified Reiki II practitioner), but I can still use the gift I was born with.

 

[RyanX]

When I originally started reading ISOTM I started out by reading it from Scribd. That is until I came across this passage in the book:

In regard to his work in Moscow G. said that he had two groups unconnected with one another and occupied in different work, "according to the state of their preparation and their powers," as he expressed it. Each member of these groups paid a thousand roubles a year, and was able to work with him while pursuing his ordinary activities in life.

I said that in my opinion a thousand roubles a year might be too large a payment for many people without private means.
G. replied that no other arrangement was possible, because, owing to the very nature of the work, he could not have many pupils. At the same time, he did not desire and ought not—he emphasized this—to spend his own money on the organization of the work. His work was not, and could not be, of a charitable nature and his pupils themselves ought to find the means for the hire of apartments where they could meet; for carrying out experiments; and so on. Besides this, he added that observation showed that people who were weak in life proved themselves weak in the work.

"There are several aspects of this idea," said G. "The work of each person may involve expenses, traveling, and so on. If his life is so badly organized that a thousand roubles embarrasses him it would be better for him not to undertake this work. Suppose that, in the course of the year, his work requires him to go to Cairo or some other place. He must have the means to do so. Through our demand we find out whether he is able to work with us or not.

"Besides," G. continued, "I have far too little spare time to be able to sacrifice it on others without being certain even that it will do them good. I value my time very much because I need it for my own work and because I cannot and, as I said before, do not want to spend it unproductively. There is also another side to this," said G. "People do not value a thing if they do not pay for it."

This is the sort of book that you want a physical copy of anyways. Often times I will flip to a random page and just start reading. Even though I've read certain sections 2 or 3 times already, I still tend to get something new out of it each time I read it.

 

[shijing]

Hi Lakewolf --

Laura, if you read this, I would be willing to do a pain relief session in exchange for a hypnotherapy session, if it wouldn't take too much out of you. Chris loves FL even though I don't, & once I make enough money, I owe her a vacation.

Just FYI, Laura and her family now live in France. Sorry to let you know, since that may be more out of reach for you as a potential vacation destination!