Knowledge, Energy, Soul?

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Avala wrote:

I imagine it like this, and its very simplified: imagine for example Sun (it is just example) Sun itself is energy and have no consciousness, but Sun have many little sparks of energy which are emanating in space. Then one spark became aware that it is a spark, became aware of its own existence, and then that sparks is Sun or energy of the Sun with meaning and that spark is now goes to find another sparks and to be even bigger and better spark. We are all sparks of the same Sun, with different colorization but essentially the same thing Sun, energy, thoughts.

well this is how they usually describe relation of soul to the spirit, spirit is divine consciousness and souls are fragments of it,
but again what to do with mind and felling.

how are feelings related to the mind and how is mind related to the soul?!
If we agree that mind is the tool for knowledge processing maybe, just maybe we can say that the mind is the tool of the soul ?!

Why spirit and why divine? Can we just call it energy or something, why it is must be related to religion or get in any touch with any religion or religion like teachings? And I think that souls may be fragments but also they are the one with that “divine consciousness" that very same thing. Came to my mind cells of living organisms and genes and DNA in them. Just one cell contains information about whole organism, and you can make whole organism of just that one cell ( if you know how) And that’s for matter which is limited, can we then just imagine what can be from one soul which contains information about whole universe? I think its way beyond our capabilities. The C’s also said something like that and “Ra" too I think.

Maybe feelings and mind are tools of the souls, that’s interesting, C’s also said something in that way too (I think) maybe is emotions tool of one centre and mind perhaps of another one, who knows. But I think that we give to much attention what is mind and emotions instead to use them properly. Like in school, we are going for example on chemistry class, but instead to pay attention what professor teach about chemistry we re playing with pencil and papers, we are more interesting in pencil then in writing chemistry with it on paper.

Maybe soul is for processing the knowledge and mind is for gathering knowledge.


seekingObjectivity,

Me too having trouble with directing my own orchestra.

let's take these two people looking at this cloud that are speculating how it might come about to exist. But instead of looking at their speculations, let's take a look at their pattern of thoughts. Consider if one was able to scan each of these people's thoughts that are speculating about this cloud formation. Let's say that an all-knowing "computer" was able to take these two scans and produce for you a result as to the similiarity between the two scans. If they are so-and-so percent similar it is the same person and anything beyond this so-and-so it tells you that it is a different person. Of course, if there are two different people standing there then one would expect a result to confirm this obvious observation correct? or no? So you go to the all-knowing "computer" and it gives you the result that these two people are indeed different. My question is, how and in what way would this story change if it was one person on two different days?

I am afraid that I don’t understand this.

But I think that I understand this:

When I think about the development and formation of the soul, I think that in its formation we must collect these 'I's in a certain way. I think this way is via verification. You experience this 'I' or that 'I' and they both need to be verified as yourself. Once they are verified as yourself then you may "collect" them or reject them and put them in a "folder" as myself. So in my speculation, I would venture to say that each of these 'I's may be considered a soul unit. That is, a unit of verification of yourself that may or may not be filed away in the folder of myself..

But how we do that verification?

I think this thread may have become convoluted enough that it might be better to call it chaos in instead of knowledge, energy, soul? Because it seems that in attempts to define it that seems to be exactly what we get!

Yes, but it is a creative chaos :)