@zak, thanks again for the quotes. Allow me to comment on some of them:
1 .As far as I know, Darwin's tree of evolution was inspired from the already existing trees of language evolution. The problem was, as it is today, that those trees completely ignore parallel evolution, intelligent design, etc. Genome evolution and language evolution only look so similar because they are theoretical, IMO. The homologous genes (cognates in language) are just that: homologous, but with no real evidence of the "ancestors". And as for borrowing, that's not the only reason for horizontal changes. The fact is that there are a huge amount of similarities among languages that aren't due to "borrowing", and aren't explainable in those terms, or in terms of one population conquering another one, people being in contact, etc. At least not when the similarities in question are found miles apart, in peoples who supposedly never met.
2 . THANK YOU for this and this link! I need to look more into it, and information theory as a whole. I really appreciate you having shared it.
One thing that caught my eye is:
Well, if sounds and letters, for example, ARE smaller units of meaning as I tried to prove, then there is no reason why domains have to be the most basic unit of meaning in biology. This would give even more meaning to his theory of design, I think. I'll study this more! Some of his references may contain interesting clues as well.
I know people have tried to equate human language with DNA alone. That seems to have its limits, because the "letters" of DNA don't behave like human language, and they contain many mysteries (eg. the same sequence of aminoacids can lead to the production of a different protein, so the instructions can't all be in the "letters"). But when combining it with the "grammar" of proteins, as this author does, there may be more interesting parallels.
The other potential problem I see is that we don't have much power over biology, other than genic therapy and things like that. However, for human language, we are the users of what seems to be an already made design "system", AND we have the power to alter it to a certain degree. So, Design and designers are mixed, which makes language even more of a mystery. OSIT.
3. Regarding Isaac Mozeson: Well, given that he was the only one apparently talking about intelligent design and language, I recently got his book. But I have to tell you I was really disappointed. He is trying to prove that Hebrew ("Edenic" is just a way to make it look older) is the mother of all languages, and that therefore Jahweh is God. The direct comments about "gentiles" and their ignorance can make you cringe. His website is also full of basic propaganda. So, I prefer Abraham Abehsera, who doesn't try to convert people. The parallels Mozeson finds are interesting, nonetheless, but frankly, I haven't finished his book because I couldn't get past his religious agenda and obvious biais towards Hebrew.
Thank you for the other comments and thoughts. You've given me things to think about. I hope you share more, including your own take on language.
Genome evolution and language evolution have a lot in common. Both processes entail evolving elements—genes or words—that are inherited from ancestors to their descendants. The parallels between biological and linguistic evolution were evident both to Charles Darwin, who briefly addressed the topic of language evolution in The origin of species [1], and to the linguist August Schleicher, who in an open letter to Ernst Haeckel discussed the similarities between language classification and species evolution [2]. Computational methods that are currently used to reconstruct genome phylogenies can also be used to reconstruct evolutionary trees of languages [3,4]. However, approaches to language phylogeny that are based on bifurcating trees recover vertical inheritance only [3,5–7], neglecting the horizontal component of language evolution (borrowing). Horizontal interactions during language evolution can range from the exchange of just a few words to deep interference [8]. In previous investigations, which focused only on the component of language evolution that is described by a bifurcating tree [3,5–7], the extent of borrowing might therefore have been overlooked.
1 .As far as I know, Darwin's tree of evolution was inspired from the already existing trees of language evolution. The problem was, as it is today, that those trees completely ignore parallel evolution, intelligent design, etc. Genome evolution and language evolution only look so similar because they are theoretical, IMO. The homologous genes (cognates in language) are just that: homologous, but with no real evidence of the "ancestors". And as for borrowing, that's not the only reason for horizontal changes. The fact is that there are a huge amount of similarities among languages that aren't due to "borrowing", and aren't explainable in those terms, or in terms of one population conquering another one, people being in contact, etc. At least not when the similarities in question are found miles apart, in peoples who supposedly never met.
2 . THANK YOU for this and this link! I need to look more into it, and information theory as a whole. I really appreciate you having shared it.
One thing that caught my eye is:
These researchers point out that an individual amino acid in a protein’s primary structure doesn’t contain information just as an individual letter in an alphabet doesn’t harbor any meaning. In human language, the most basic unit that conveys meaning is a word. And, in proteins, the most basic unit that conveys biochemical meaning is a domain.
Well, if sounds and letters, for example, ARE smaller units of meaning as I tried to prove, then there is no reason why domains have to be the most basic unit of meaning in biology. This would give even more meaning to his theory of design, I think. I'll study this more! Some of his references may contain interesting clues as well.
I know people have tried to equate human language with DNA alone. That seems to have its limits, because the "letters" of DNA don't behave like human language, and they contain many mysteries (eg. the same sequence of aminoacids can lead to the production of a different protein, so the instructions can't all be in the "letters"). But when combining it with the "grammar" of proteins, as this author does, there may be more interesting parallels.
The other potential problem I see is that we don't have much power over biology, other than genic therapy and things like that. However, for human language, we are the users of what seems to be an already made design "system", AND we have the power to alter it to a certain degree. So, Design and designers are mixed, which makes language even more of a mystery. OSIT.
3. Regarding Isaac Mozeson: Well, given that he was the only one apparently talking about intelligent design and language, I recently got his book. But I have to tell you I was really disappointed. He is trying to prove that Hebrew ("Edenic" is just a way to make it look older) is the mother of all languages, and that therefore Jahweh is God. The direct comments about "gentiles" and their ignorance can make you cringe. His website is also full of basic propaganda. So, I prefer Abraham Abehsera, who doesn't try to convert people. The parallels Mozeson finds are interesting, nonetheless, but frankly, I haven't finished his book because I couldn't get past his religious agenda and obvious biais towards Hebrew.
Thank you for the other comments and thoughts. You've given me things to think about. I hope you share more, including your own take on language.