To fill in a few more details on some of the characters of this thread and for the sake of getting some more idea of what was behind Marx and Lenin, I add these comments because of the thoughts on STS and STO and OP, but will we ever know?
About Lenin I got a hear say, incidentally and almost strangely on the very day I put up the last post in this thread. It was from an acquaintance who had read a book, a biography of someone who claimed he was a friend of Lenin in his days, presumable Jewish I was told. The story was that during the last week of his life Lenin should have conversed with this friend about God saying something like: "All my life I have been saying "God does not exist!" But now I know. There is something." So this is just hearsay like so many others about him, which could also have been written with a motive without being true.
Wikipedia has a long page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenin but the above anecdote is not mentioned and one wonders if it could be.
In the book by Douglas Reed, "The controvercy of Zion" there is this about Karl Marx which was mentioned above:
To read and contemplate history under the angle of psychology is in any case interesting.
thorbiorn
About Lenin I got a hear say, incidentally and almost strangely on the very day I put up the last post in this thread. It was from an acquaintance who had read a book, a biography of someone who claimed he was a friend of Lenin in his days, presumable Jewish I was told. The story was that during the last week of his life Lenin should have conversed with this friend about God saying something like: "All my life I have been saying "God does not exist!" But now I know. There is something." So this is just hearsay like so many others about him, which could also have been written with a motive without being true.
Wikipedia has a long page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenin but the above anecdote is not mentioned and one wonders if it could be.
In the book by Douglas Reed, "The controvercy of Zion" there is this about Karl Marx which was mentioned above:
page 169 said:
The last were the words of Michel Bakunin, the Russian founder of Anarchism whose destiny in terms of suffering and struggle was radically different from that of Marx.page 171 said:
To read and contemplate history under the angle of psychology is in any case interesting.
thorbiorn
