Les Ordres, a film from Québec

loreta

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We are talking these days about Canada, how Harper is a dictator and a psychopath. And it is true. But Canada has always been a country with plutocrats at their power.

This movie tells the sad story about a fact that happened in Quebec, in 1970. I remember that year because the army was on the streets. I was very young, 12 years old. It was my first contact with plutocracy. I did not know that at that time.

Les Ordres is about THE OCTOBER CRISIS: one English diplomat and few business man are kidnapped by a secessionist group in french Canada. The Canadian army is send in the Province of Quebec, and Martial law is declared taking all the civil rights of the citizens. Some intellectuals are round up and put in jail for many months.

These intellectuals are put in jail because the majority were secessionists and were activists for the rights of the workers.

So: in 1970 the Canadian Government send a clear message to the Quebecois. This is the story, in this movie, about this little crisis. In this crisis the Canadian power demonstrate to everyone in Quebec that they rule the country as they wanted: like a dictatorship.

A conspiracy was there, many people think.

This movie is very dark and sad.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Ordres



loreta
 
Thanks for posting, although i've not seen this film "Les Orders" but have seen a few documentaries and had first hand impressions on the streets during those days; although young. When reading this post was reminded of a book read back in the 70's by Richard Rohmer called separation. Rohmer was a general and an old RAF pilot during WWII and if correctly remembered he told a tail about Quebec and Separation and it seems their were elements of CIA involvement (stirring the pot) and the prize was resources, especially Hydro Quebec, water, natural gas, oil and pipelines as well as fracturing the social makeup. There was/is perhaps some likely reality/focus from those same elements. He also wrote a book (70's) called 'Ultimatum' which followed similar lines and involved the US president (a Texan) giving Canada an ultimatum and things did not turn out well.
 
Wow, this is interesting. I am sure that what happened in Quebec at that time was a BIG conspiracy fabricated by our friends the Americans. :mad: Quebec is the most rich province of Canada and the province that in a sense not wanted (alas now things are changing) to be under the orders of the Queen, Canada and USA. Quebec has electricity and many many trees (forests) and other very important resources, as you say it. Everything started when a diplomat was killed but before that some bombs exploded in postal boxes supposedly putted there by a separatist movement (the FLQ) but we know that who putted the bombs where the RCMP (Police). Later came René Levesque, a good politician, very charismatic, very gentle and very, very intelligent. Again, Canada did everything to scare the people of Quebec before the elections : they were very important because they were the road to the separation of Quebec from Canada. There is an interesting movie by Denys Arcand, The Confort and the Indifference that shows how Trudeau and his clique lied to the people to scare them. But this movie shows how people are manipulated and controlled.

http://www.onf-nfb.gc.ca/eng/collection/film/?id=26039

This subject and what happened in those days are almost forgotten and the new generation, the young people, are not aware of it. Plus, Quebec is a province with many immigrants that don't know the real story of this province. When René Levesque died after a second intend to separated Quebec from Canada (he died at his home from a heart attack) I am sure he died of sadness and deception. The people of Quebec accepted to be manipulated, to be scared and to renounce to be free. I have the image in my mind of René Levesque crying during the Referendum, crying because again, for the second and last time, people refused to take their country at hand and refused change. This image is there to remind me of the solitude of people who are guides that live in a world of blind people.

Thank you very much for the information of these books, I will try to read about this subject now that I am more awake of everything. :shock:
 
loreta said:
Thank you very much for the information of these books, I will try to read about this subject now that I am more awake of everything. :shock:

loreta, first, did not mention prior that these books were fiction and yet there sometimes are elements of truth in fiction.

Quebec during these times as you know was a hub of world corporations of all types and anglophone predominantly but also German, Swiss, US etc., too. Rene upset the applecart and the anglophones were not happy; many moved out to Toronto, but for all the things corporate in Quebec, they would never release control even though the illusion of control was being seeded to separatists causes; yet there are no corporate differences in these causes. Rene fought the good fight but the ponerology was deeply seeded, osit, and Quebec since has been used as a wedge in many ways to keep people occupied from deeper intentions. Either in and outside Quebec the corporations, under shells or francophone names kept their statuesque. Planning and plotting has been the name of the game there for a long time and as usual, the people are swept up in the tide of divisions. In Quebec, the francophone were wronged historically, by anglophones, the church, corporations, upper Canada, but as you said today, the young and those coming now to live there do not know the past and are generally lead this way or that.

Again, Canada did everything to scare the people of Quebec before the elections

Indeed, even the very question of Yes/No was seeded to staying in Canada.

I am sure he died of sadness and deception.

Being an anglophone, was likely of the few who appreciated Rene, he was much about people foremost and he was attacked relentlessly by the PTB, even from the ponerization elements embedded in his own party - he was betrayed.

The other thing that comes to mind, and don't really know, since the 70's is about the relationship of the political divisions as seen from the politicians in Ottawa. For the next 35 years, being a massive but fragmented voting populace in Quebec, these divisions have been perhaps useful, used to advantage by the PTB in Ottawa; the results of the last election going to pseudo socialists in Quebec will prove interesting in the future and in Ottawa they will not like this and yet moving the new leader of the NDP to the center may prove useful for the statuesque - not sure, but will pay attention.

Thank you for the new link, will check it out. :)
 
Yes, you are right! The division French/English was a good trick to control much better Quebec and the populace. I was not aware of that when living there, even if I never understood why this division. Now I understand, I am late in understanding things. Not living anymore there (even if we think in returning) I really don't follow the politics of Quebec.

The dream of independence was really an illusion, a mirage. For me it was a mirage to be free of the American Empire and the English-Saxon Empire. When you are young you are an idealist. You are manipulated very easily. :halo: The question I have to answer is : was René Levesque manipulated? I can not say yes nor no. I really don't know. I hope not. :huh:

What I miss is people like him who was able to awaken our roots and give us the vision of a better world without the foot of the Americans or the English Empire. Is this bad? He educated people about Quebec, about the resources of the province, about the abuses of the corporations. He wanted also protect the French language, very fragile in Canada (America). Thanks to him French did not die, I think so. He thought that change can come with education and awareness.


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I remember watching this movie in high school and it shocked me at the time to learn that that kind of thing happened in my country, but I dismissed it as just the kind of things that happened a long time ago (before I was born) but doesn't happen anymore, at least not in Canada. :rolleyes:

Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't be surprised if the October crisis had been a false flag attack. The people at the FLQ (Front de libération du Québec) seem to be just a bunch of psychopaths who murdered people, robbed banks and planted bombs. They kidnapped a british diplomat and a Quebec minister and the result was the War Measures Act. "As a result of the invocation of the War Measures Act, civil liberties were suspended. By December 29, 1970, police had arrested 453 persons with suspected ties to the FLQ. Some detainees were released within hours, while others were held for up to 21 days. Several persons who were detained were initially denied access to legal counsel. Of the 453 people who were arrested, 435 were eventually released without ever being charged."(Wikipedia) Most of the people who were arrested were artists and intellectuals.

Thanks for starting this thread Loreta, I'll try to watch the movie again, if I can find it.
 
[quote author=loreta]
Yes, you are right! The division French/English was a good trick to control much better Quebec and the populace. I was not aware of that when living there, even if I never understood why this division. Now I understand, I am late in understanding things. Not living anymore there (even if we think in returning) I really don't follow the politics of Quebec.[/quote]

Not sure about being right about anything, these are impressions of seeing repeat performances all over the world within social divergences. Creating or accentuating preexisting divergences creates wealth for the few and hardship and destruction for the many. Have not lived there either for 35 years and lost touch with the political and social fabric of the province except for what is produced in the MSN. Think there are some people on the forum who likely have a keener understanding of things in Quebec today that would only be speculative for me to say.

The dream of independence was really an illusion, a mirage. For me it was a mirage to be free of the American Empire and the English-Saxon Empire. When you are young you are an idealist. You are manipulated very easily. :halo: The question I have to answer is : was René Levesque manipulated? I can not say yes nor no. I really don't know. I hope not. :huh:

I don't think he was initially, he was a radio personality, close to the people on the street, knew what was wrong then and in history; yet even history is distorted. Rene had people in his heart I think and was likely smart enough to know that people would be manipulating him at every turn. It seems that the leaders after him were more manipulated, osit, yet who in politics is not immune?

What I miss is people like him who was able to awaken our roots and give us the vision of a better world without the foot of the Americans or the English Empire. Is this bad? He educated people about Quebec, about the resources of the province, about the abuses of the corporations. He wanted also protect the French language, very fragile in Canada (America). Thanks to him French did not die, I think so. He thought that change can come with education and awareness.

Think he and his generation had their interpretation of Quebec's motto 'Je me souviens' (I Remember) well understood and others understood it differently, something about the Lily & the Rose (France/England). Think he was reaching out to the youth, who in some respects grew tired of their grand parents and parents history and he needed everyone to remember. Today, one would need to examine the curriculum in school to see what is being taught. Quebec today is very multicultural as you said and the old guard, the grand parents, are near to being no longer and their fight may or may not live in the younger population, but would not count them out, they may indeed never forget.

I have found the book Ultimatum at Amazon.uk for 1cent!

Talk about deflation :D


[quote author=Rose]
Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't be surprised if the October crisis had been a false flag attack.[/quote]

Probably a high percentage; look how easy the FBI manipulate groups into doing the damnedest things.

The people at the FLQ (Front de libération du Québec) seem to be just a bunch of psychopaths who murdered people, robbed banks and planted bombs. They kidnapped a british diplomat and a Quebec minister and the result was the War Measures Act. "As a result of the invocation of the War Measures Act, civil liberties were suspended.

Maybe the modus of false flag planning? Who benefited? Seems too me that one or two of the original perpetrators later sat in high government office.

By December 29, 1970, police had arrested 453 persons with suspected ties to the FLQ. Some detainees were released within hours, while others were held for up to 21 days. Several persons who were detained were initially denied access to legal counsel. Of the 453 people who were arrested, 435 were eventually released without ever being charged."(Wikipedia) Most of the people who were arrested were artists and intellectuals.

Yes, guilt by association, reading pamphlets, listening to a lecture, speaking out at parties; aka shades of US McCarthyism.
 
What the PTB in Canada did is saying to the manipulated population: FLQ=people who wanted the independence of Quebec. A big Lie.

I agree: false flag. I would like to know if something have been written about the October Crisis under this vision. I will ask one friend who lives in Montreal. I will ask him if others movies has been made treating this subject. And maybe some people who live there and are in this forum can help us?
 
I live there!

Frankly, I don't know much more about those events than you related. But indeed it contains very relevant informations.

History here is massively corrupted. It was never told to us in high school like it really happened. We were told more from the "winner's side". People here have been slaughtered and hung. Farms and villages were buned down to ashes. 10,000 people were killed out of a population of 70,000.

Thing is the Patriots here didn't want so much to fight but rather to try to negociate. And while they were using their brain to try to find an intelligent solution, English which were more powerfull, more organized and had more soldiers simply came out of nowhere and decided to wipe us. No negotiations. Only fire, blood and death.

Since way back then, we have always been the prey of English and big capitalist corporations. We have gas, oil, gold, diamonds, uranium ,lithium, iron, aluminium, rare earths, fresh water, asbestos, wood, hydroelectricity and perhaps much more. We can extract, purify and transform most of these ressources as well.

The major corporation here in control is Power Corporation. They have financial institutions, 70% of the written medias, deals with news channels, oil and gas industries and a very heavy influence in all Canada, in the USA, France, another African country (can't remember) that has oil ressources and God knows where else.

Now thing is corporations are trying to get the right to extract shale gas in the Vallée Du Saint-Laurent (epicenter of the province) and oil in the Saint-Laurent river. Population and environmentalists are fighting it.

On top of that our government is now undergoing the Plan Nord (North Plan) that is a huge project of mineral extraction. Most of the permits all have been sold almost for free to private and foreing industries (mostly Chinese) and in oposition to the First Nation which are protesting as a result of lack of consideration for them and for the protection of territories. On top of it, the minerals are going to be extracted and exported rather that tranformed by us (not that we can't).

So that's it. Massive investments in private interests and cut-offs in public services like education, which gave rise to a 4 month protestation movement that is now "on hold" due to vacations.

Corruption has always been omnipresent and now it is strating to be massively uncovered which is putting the current power (liberals) in an akward position.

But that's the tip of the iceberg. Vaguly an illusion to make people beleive that they finally are finding the real Truth. No matter what, politics remains politics and I can't trust politicians. Corporations always find ways to sneak and do their things no matter what. Their real mechanics is still unknown to most people. We are barely scratching the surface with those anti-corruption investigations etc.

René Lévèsque was a great person to my eyes. He may have been manipulated (that wouldn't surprise me) but I think he really wanted to make a change. Only he couldn't. The "YES" votes were "stolen" by massive propaganda, especially towards immigrants. They were basically told that the separation of Québec would be bad for them so they got scared and voted "NO". I remember my grand-father telling me if the "YES" won, he would move to Ontario. He was basically scared to loose part of his retirement pay (federal part) and that's all it took to convince him to say "NO".

Now the separatist movement is ressurecting from it's ashes. No, actually it has always been there but Harper is, if I may say, convincing more and more people to "get the hell out of this country". I don't think it would necessarily make things better though. Corporations are still there and they rule everything anyways. Only the illusion might change.

Anywyas, we'll see what happens. Elections are due anytime soon. But since there is no "fixed date reglementation" our government is taking advantage of this and will only announce elections at the moment he pleases when he feels his chances are at peak point. Thing is over 70% of the poulation is now against him. The current opposition, the Parti Québécois is separatist.

False-flags are a common thing here. Happened during the October Crisis (I'm sure) and even more recently at the G8 meeting of Montebello where police officers were caught disguised in protestors breaking everything and initiating brawls and violence. Same with the student protestation movement. Lot of suspicious people doing crazy thing and as a result, police officers had an 'excuse' for abusing their strenght. A girl got her jaw and teeth broken (her face was thrown on the concrete), a guy lost an eyes (was shot by a anti-riot weapon in the face, point-blank) and many many more were also injured. Thousands of arrestations and over a million $ worth of tickets following the imposition of a special law restraining people from manifesting (lot more 'conditions' if you wish to).

The imposition of that law made some noise and there was even a protestation movement initiated by lawyers and we could see them walking the road, protesting all dressed in their suits. That is quite a rare thing to see here.

What a mess...

Peace.
 
Our intention is returning to Quebec next year but who knows? Many things can happen before...

Quebec is different from the rest of Canada. The immigration, the French as a language, the desire to be separated from USA, the desire of independence. All this is a positive point for Quebec. When I say immigration I mean the richness of so many cultures that for my point of vue is good.

I think also the social infrastructure is good in Quebec. Thousand times more than here, in Spain.

But I left the Quebec 14 years ago. My idea is maybe romantic, out of touch of the reality. I think Quebec will live difficult times, under the Canadian regime with Harper and under all the corrupt politicians that are equal here or there. But. There is always this but that makes the difference between Quebec and the rest of Canada. :)

I miss my Quebecois roots, that are part of me and that are as important or more than my Spanish roots. I think it is time to return to Quebec.

Les Ordres is a beautiful movie, about artists and how the system don't accept what the artists represent: change and evolution. Canada with Trudeau put millions of dollars in their propaganda to install fear and indecision to people. The possibility for a certain change was lost and I think was lost for ever.
 
loreta said:
Our intention is returning to Quebec next year but who knows? Many things can happen before...

Quebec is different from the rest of Canada. The immigration, the French as a language, the desire to be separated from USA, the desire of independence. All this is a positive point for Quebec. When I say immigration I mean the richness of so many cultures that for my point of vue is good.

That makes me think about the C's saying that all locations (states) on the planet heve their own "soul" if I may say so. That may be because over time, people migrated where people were more like them so that's what formed these diffrent cultures and ideologies.

We are generally speaking very peaceful and tolerant. I like people here seriously. We have the biggest French festival in the world (we love our language) and many other one-of-a-kind entertaining events.

I think also the social infrastructure is good in Quebec. Thousand times more than here, in Spain.

Well, politics is politics and the corporations are still very influent but in a general way, we are glad to pay taxes as long as we have free health care, social reinsertion programs, close-to-free education (although the fees were recently raised and that provoked protestation) and a lot of other useful services like a very acessible welfare program, rehabs/therapies etc.

I think Quebec will live difficult times, under the Canadian regime with Harper and under all the corrupt politicians that are equal here or there. But. There is always this but that makes the difference between Quebec and the rest of Canada. :)

Harper is just another dictator at the mercy of private corporations (like so many others anyways). Anything considered "public service" is just obsolete to him and law after law, he is massively cutting into health care, environment, retirement etc. He has made up other laws allowing him to cut the funds to any organism/company that shall dare going against his capitalist policy (and possibly sue them as well with a SLAPP). He has the majority so he does only what he wants regardless to the people's opinion.

Fortunately, we now have a law in Québec that prevents anyone to intend a SLAPP and the credit goes to my uncle, an environmentalist that had been sued for $5 millions because he denounced AIM for poisoning a river here in the Appalachians. He fought and a new law was voted as a result of his ferity. Him and his association celebrate their 30th anniversary this year. He has done a lot for the environment here. Very spiritual guy as well.

Les Ordres is a beautiful movie, about artists and how the system don't accept what the artists represent: change and evolution. Canada with Trudeau put millions of dollars in their propaganda to install fear and indecision to people. The possibility for a certain change was lost and I think was lost for ever.

Artists are often bashed here for supporting change. We have a lot of engaged artists that don't mind telling their opinions despite the concequences. Some others are simply scared and prefer to stay away from controversy in order to keep their wallets happy and healthy. The rest either support the government or don't mind but their own.

Pierre Falardeau, a pure patriot and separatist was a producer/realisator and was refused most of his movie projects because he wanted to tell the True Story Of Québec and true facts about the confrontation of the English and manipulation/corruption in regards to corporations like Power Corporation. Many other Truths as well. He died in frustration and sadness a few years ago.
 
[quote author=JayMark]
That makes me think about the C's saying that all locations (states) on the planet heve their own "soul" if I may say so. That may be because over time, people migrated where people were more like them so that's what formed these diffrent cultures and ideologies.

We are generally speaking very peaceful and tolerant. I like people here seriously. We have the biggest French festival in the world (we love our language) and many other one-of-a-kind entertaining events. [/quote]

Often meet many people starting a new life in BC from Quebec and find myself drawn to conversation with them; just nice people, easy going and generally very aware. Maybe it is their spirit recognized from the place of birth.


loreta said:
I think Quebec will live difficult times, under the Canadian regime with Harper and under all the corrupt politicians that are equal here or there. But. There is always this but that makes the difference between Quebec and the rest of Canada. :)

Think it will be difficult too. Reminds me of this Sott article Flashback: Harper Majority: End of Canada as we know it

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/228159-Harper-Majority-End-of-Canada-as-we-know-it

Ron - Yaya Canada said:
Over time, states come and go. Under a majority Harper Government, the 144 year old experiment known as Canada is over. One can only feel sorry for those who will be left behind in Harper's Rump State. It won't be a good place.

JayMark said:
Pierre Falardeau, a pure patriot and separatist was a producer/realisator and was refused most of his movie projects because he wanted to tell the True Story Of Québec and true facts about the confrontation of the English and manipulation/corruption in regards to corporations like Power Corporation. Many other Truths as well. He died in frustration and sadness a few years ago.

Think patriotic ideals can be the unraveling of many. As for Power Corporation, the name says much, insurance behemoth and more. This company was very much around during the October crises; well protected. The other thing remembered about Quebec as corruption is in the headlines these days, was that it was a mecca of organized crime, mafia families entrenched both in Quebec with influence in the US. Biker (HA) gangs were another side of this coin. Price fixing was always the order of the day, evident in roads infrastructures and general construction. Now it seems the corporations have taken it all over and like before with the mafia, politicians do what they are told.

[quote author=loreta]
Our intention is returning to Quebec next year but who knows? Many things can happen before...
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I think also the social infrastructure is good in Quebec. Thousand times more than here, in Spain.
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I miss my Quebecois roots, that are part of me and that are as important or more than my Spanish roots. I think it is time to return to Quebec.
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Good luck with your decision making. It may be as JayMark described of the C's discussing states having their own soul. Listening to where you feel drawn and why is interesting to consider, osit.
 
When you are an immigrant you are an immigrant all your life. Your father was an immigrant, you are also an immigrant. You are all your life in the middle of a bridge. What is interesting is that Quebec is a country (for me I see Quebec as a country) of immigrants. My sister is always complaining that there is too many immigrants in Quebec. I think she is not aware of many things, that's why she and me communicate very little. ;)

One big problem in Quebec is the weather. It is too much cold. But, hey, Ice Age is coming so I know a little about Ice and extreme weather. All houses and infrastructures are almost ready for THE BIG COLD. :rolleyes:

Between a country who is literally falling apart (Spain) and a country who will fall in the future the decision is hard but Quebec seems to me more prepared, better organized. I miss listen to French, that I love as a language. I miss to ear "joal", the particular French of Montreal. Language is a sort of vision of the world. You can not imagine the difference between the talk of a Quebecois and a Spanish. If I talk about "roots" here in Spain people don't understand. This is just a little and insignificant example. But it means a lot!

But I am aware that the big mess is everywhere. No one will be safe, no country, no place. The C's also said that!
 
voyageur said:
Often meet many people starting a new life in BC from Quebec and find myself drawn to conversation with them; just nice people, easy going and generally very aware. Maybe it is their spirit recognized from the place of birth.

I have once seen an esoteric article talking about planet earth and it said that Québec was located at the earth's heart chackra energy center. I have no clue if planets do have chackras and if that is even appliable but that made me smile to say the least. Just a thought.


loreta said:
There is always this but that makes the difference between Quebec and the rest of Canada. :)

Haha! Yes, we are like the Gauls in Asterix resisting Jules Cesar and Roman occupation!

After he illegaly retired from the Kyoto protocol we literally sued the guy (Harper). I don't know where this will go (bet it'll just rot in a corner) but that's the sort of detail that makes Québec a distinct nation among Canada. We also proceeded to go on with our own personal Kyoto.

Harper is hated in Québec. He has about 10% of popularity while the NDP has over 50%. The war will be between these. Thomas Mulcair, the NDP leader is from Québec (born in Ontario) and considers us far more (in appearence at least) than Harper. But anyways, I don't trust him much even if I like him better. His wife is pretty close to big corporations as well if I remember.

Think it will be difficult too. Reminds me of this Sott article Flashback: Harper Majority: End of Canada as we know it

There is no better and simpler way to put it.

Ron - Yaya Canada said:
Over time, states come and go. Under a majority Harper Government, the 144 year old experiment known as Canada is over. One can only feel sorry for those who will be left behind in Harper's Rump State. It won't be a good place.

Sad but true. He has already brought us pretty down on the esteem scale and world image/reputation. And with three more years before elections, he has plenty of time to do it's thing. We are watching it happening one decision at a time and it's getting pretty boring. Our only option in Québec to avoid part of the big mess would be to seperate.

But anyhow, seeing how the world is going, I don't think we are going in any way to live in a better world anywhere anytime in the future. Quite the contrary actually.

Provincial elections are soon to go and current power (liberals) are going down. Opposition (Parti Québécois) is separatist and the only other that could have a chance (Coalition Avenir Québec) are even more of a right party than current liberals.

Think patriotic ideals can be the unraveling of many. As for Power Corporation, the name says much, insurance behemoth and more. This company was very much around during the October crises; well protected. The other thing remembered about Quebec as corruption is in the headlines these days, was that it was a mecca of organized crime, mafia families entrenched both in Quebec with influence in the US. Biker (HA) gangs were another side of this coin. Price fixing was always the order of the day, evident in roads infrastructures and general construction. Now it seems the corporations have taken it all over and like before with the mafia, politicians do what they are told.

Power Corp, mafia, bikers and corrupted engeneering firms are omnipresent. You don't want to mess with these guys. Drug dealing is also running very strong especially in the heart of Montréal. I already lived in the ''hottest'' spots there and boy, you don't want to turn your back on many people there.

Curiously enough, for the past 2-3 years, less and less cannabis derequisition were made by the police. And I mean it. By far less. I wonder what this is about.

Good luck with your decision making. It may be as JayMark described of the C's discussing states having their own soul. Listening to where you feel drawn and why is interesting to consider, osit.

If there's one thing Harper is never going to be able to take, that is our Québécois hearts and souls. Our floral emblem is the Iris Versicolor, animal is the Snowy Owl.
 
loreta said:
What is interesting is that Quebec is a country (for me I see Quebec as a country) of immigrants. My sister is always complaining that there is too many immigrants in Quebec. I think she is not aware of many things, that's why she and me communicate very little. ;)

Oh we are quite a multicultural state. People enjoy this diversity in general but the main friction is mainly in regards to their sometimes harsh ways of living and religious principles for instance. The Shafira case is quite a good and recent example.

We also have a lot of Natives all across the province. Some hate us, some are tolerant and some love us. My cousin went to Kujuuak to work for a month and he had to keep very calm and even avoid looking them in the eyes to remain safe. And that is something considering he is 6'4" and quite in shape. If, on the other side you go to a place like Wendake (near Québec city) you will be welcomed like a brother.

One big problem in Quebec is the weather. It is too much cold. But, hey, Ice Age is coming so I know a little about Ice and extreme weather. All houses and infrastructures are almost ready for THE BIG COLD. :rolleyes:

Don't worry, global warming is taking care of the cold. Winters are slowly fading and summers are becoming very harsh, especially this year (emphasis). We are pulverizing heat records at an astonishing rate. This is causing many many problems. Climate is becoming more tropical-like in summer.

When the ice age hits, it'll be quite devastating to begin with but on that point, we indeed are more used to deal with crazily cold weather. But for 365 days a year? Hummm. If they don't expect it (and most don't) it sure will be a deadly transition.

Between a country who is literally falling apart (Spain) and a country who will fall in the future the decision is hard but Quebec seems to me more prepared, better organized. I miss listen to French, that I love as a language. I miss to ear "joal", the particular French of Montreal. Language is a sort of vision of the world. You can not imagine the difference between the talk of a Quebecois and a Spanish. If I talk about "roots" here in Spain people don't understand. This is just a little and insignificant example. But it means a lot!

I don't know if we are more prepared but at least, we are solidary and are willing to do anything to keep it altogether.

By "Joal" you probably mean "Joël". Haha. ;)

Our roots are very important. We love our land and people. We are proud of what we accomplished as a small nation. This feeling for instance has brought us up on the world scene in many areas and it couldn't be more true today. It may not seem so but we are, indeed, very involved world-wide.

But I am aware that the big mess is everywhere. No one will be safe, no country, no place. The C's also said that!

And I think it couldn't be more true. No matter who we are, where we are and what we do, we won't be able to avoid the global 'show' that is coming.
 
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