level conversations with people

Lucius

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I do not know if it's just my perception but the level of conversation with people is frightening ... almost 80% of people only talk about what is happening on TV, people are afraid to talk about myself about what's going on, etc.

This may sound strange but it tired me a call ...
 
Yeps. Most people are either too wounded, or brain dead, or not interested, or authoritarian followers, or a mix. That's the sad truth...
 
Ailén said:
Yeps. Most people are either too wounded, or brain dead, or not interested, or authoritarian followers, or a mix. That's the sad truth...

well said

sometimes I wonder if it to me something wrong o_O
 
Don't fret. Perhaps you are just "seeing" more they do not. This is their path, not yours. Use external consideration and continue on... And "we" will "see" what happens, prepared and not slammed into atoms...
 
Lukas said:
I do not know if it's just my perception but the level of conversation with people is frightening ... almost 80% of people only talk about what is happening on TV, people are afraid to talk about myself about what's going on, etc.

This may sound strange but it tired me a call ...

Yes, it is sad indeed. When a person's awareness starts to expand, it can feel very lonely and very scary to see people like this and to have no one to talk to on your own level.

I am a firm believer that there are people all over the world that are slowly waking up and seeing the hypnotic state most people are in. Sadly, I sometimes wonder if these might be some of those people that have gone mad. I just feel very strongly that this is a possibility, but I don't know it.
 
Lukas said:
sometimes I wonder if it to me something wrong o_O

It depends on the situation, I think. You cannot change people's paths, nor their choices if they only want to talk about football or whatever. But you CAN use the opportunity to study humanity, to try to see when someone does it because it is in his/her "nature", or when it is a buffer to hide from reality because it is too painful. Either way, you can't change them, but in the second case you also learn a lot, and maybe you can, once in a while, drop hints and see if they are open to them.

You aren't crazy. This is the world we live in.
 
Bud said:
Yes, it is sad indeed. When a person's awareness starts to expand, it can feel very lonely and very scary to see people like this and to have no one to talk to on your own level.

I am a firm believer that there are people all over the world that are slowly waking up and seeing the hypnotic state most people are in. Sadly, I sometimes wonder if these might be some of those people that have gone mad. I just feel very strongly that this is a possibility, but I don't know it.
Here's a case study for your research. I went mad when this happened but I am recovering and still feel very lonely and often frustrated. I've seen a couple of people go mad and then slowly return to "life" (in the work sense) and become sheeple again, sad.
 
I have never liked to watch TV. Mostly a gut feeling, repelling it, for some reason. Has always been like that, even as a child. I can, however, watch movies and other things when and if I want to, things I choose by myself.

Talking about television shows are, thus, horribly boring. I'm used to not to show my boredom.

Bud said:
Sadly, I sometimes wonder if these might be some of those people that have gone mad. I just feel very strongly that this is a possibility, but I don't know it.

I also think so, for some cases, partly because I have a relative that "went mad" (schizophrenia) after a long time of conflicts with a psychopath. He had, and maybe still has, good possibilities in many directions. Smart.
 
Stellaria_graminea said:
I have never liked to watch TV. Mostly a gut feeling, repelling it, for some reason. Has always been like that, even as a child. I can, however, watch movies and other things when and if I want to, things I choose by myself.

Talking about television shows are, thus, horribly boring. I'm used to not to show my boredom.

Gotta say I loved watching TV as a child, the cartoons were fun; batman, spiderman etc. Power Rangers... Teenage mutant ninja turtles, not to mention the Disney films that were on TV back then! Then came Cartoon Network with its fun cartoons. And ehm *cough* Days of Our Lives *cough*. Also enjoyed the movies that were on TV back then. But, as I grew older I went from watching TV to sitting behind the computer! Cartoons nowadays don't seem as awesome as then, but that might just be my age!

It is sad indeed, that most people concentrate on what happens in TV shows, rather than what's happening in real life, but I guess that's just where they are ATM. Sometimes I think that some people watch soccer or other TV shows, so that they'll have something to talk about with others, or so that they can belong to a certain group. And if people want to belong somewhere and have a feeling of 'being someone with an opinion' I guess most of them go with the popular stuff, most-watched shows etc. And I guess what happens around the world is less popular than which celebrity did what or which sports team lost badly. At my university, for example, it's almost a 'must' that the guys have watched that oh-so important soccer-match... which they talk about all day, next day. (Not saying everyone is like this)

When we've lost being in touch with our emotions and being, it's difficult to truly connect with each other (feel/think/do 'deeper') on most levels, so usually, this (talking about TV shows) could be just one of the ways with which we try to interact with each other in some way.
 
Oxajil said:
Stellaria_graminea said:
I have never liked to watch TV. Mostly a gut feeling, repelling it, for some reason. Has always been like that, even as a child. I can, however, watch movies and other things when and if I want to, things I choose by myself.

Talking about television shows are, thus, horribly boring. I'm used to not to show my boredom.

Gotta say I loved watching TV as a child, the cartoons were fun [...] enjoyed the movies that were on TV back then. But, as I grew older I went from watching TV to sitting behind the computer! Cartoons nowadays don't seem as awesome as then, but that might just be my age!

It is often talked about in terms of "growing out of" these things, and I think that's the truth, only it has not to do with age, but with insight.

I'd guess (it seems so in my own case, at least) that there's simply not much to hook you anymore, because, in having learned something, they can no longer seem significant - apart perhaps from (this being something that can last) some occasional humor value, if it's not too shallow in nature.

The interesting thing is how distractions - many movies, TV shows, etc., along with video games (through which I spent a whole lot of my childhood and teens) - while when "matching" one's inner level and so being attractive, do this often without providing anything to grow on. They give a shiny but empty presentation - a dream that matches one's present inner contents.

Then one finds things elsewhere and grows, and the dreams presented eventually appear "trite, conventional, imbecilic" (as don Juan noted about the dreams of farm-animal-humans).

So also for TV news (and much of MSM news in general) - having had a taste of some real research and information, it's "grown out of".

As always, people cannot relate to having grown out of something unless they've done it themselves.


I also think there's two kinds of people who waste all their time on distractions - those who have seen nothing, and those who have seen something and become embittered and lose all sense of a greater meaning because they don't have enough of a big picture. I was among the latter as I gamed away, years ago... Then I started to go crazy - something in me rebelled - and in the midst of growing neuroticism, I finally found all this, and learning became a process (not wholly finished) of self-curing.

Sometimes buffering is not about shutting out the painful or uncomfortable - it just occurs because there's no idea of anything better. Among the people who sink into themselves, I think those who do because they're very bitter and disillusioned have the greatest hope for a turnaround if they find something of genuine meaning - if they are capable of apprehending that meaning.

So if anyone here knows a (at present) bitter, misanthropic nihilist - who still has some manner of higher ideal that they don't find in the world, causing bitterness - they might be much more open than most to discussing and considering the "weird" and unexpected, and they might also have something interesting to say.

Though it all depends on their nature and how messed up they've managed to become.
 
Recently I noticed an interesting thing, when I go shopping for example and observe the people already doing it instinctively when someone will notice that they do not "sleep" are beginning to fear and attack you ..


Thx all for good information about this topic
 
Lukas said:
I do not know if it's just my perception but the level of conversation with people is frightening ... almost 80% of people only talk about what is happening on TV, people are afraid to talk about myself about what's going on, etc.

This may sound strange but it tired me a call ...

This world and the way it has been designed, has contrived to make people forget about "themselves". For many this is fine because many do not have any real or true "selves" anyway, so the distractions and inanities of "life" are quite naturally and "normally" appealing to them. When you notice such things, you can reasonably conclude that that is something different about the way you see the world and the way those particular people see the world. That you have a different goal in life. It's difficult to accept at first, especially since we have all been brought up t believe that "we're all the same".
 
say I loved watching TV as a child, the cartoons were fun; batman, spiderman etc. Power Rangers... Teenage mutant ninja turtles, not to mention the Disney films that were on TV back then! Then came Cartoon Network with its fun cartoons. And ehm *cough* Days of Our Lives *cough*. Also enjoyed the movies that were on TV back then. But, as I grew older I went from watching TV to sitting behind the computer! Cartoons nowadays don't seem as awesome as then, but that might just be my age!

It is sad indeed, that most people concentrate on what happens in TV shows, rather than what's happening in real life, but I guess that's just where they are ATM. Sometimes I think that some people watch soccer or other TV shows, so that they'll have something to talk about with others, or so that they can belong to a certain group. And if people want to belong somewhere and have a feeling of 'being someone with an opinion' I guess most of them go with the popular stuff, most-watched shows etc. And I guess what happens around the world is less popular than which celebrity did what or which sports team lost badly. At my university, for example, it's almost a 'must' that the guys have watched that oh-so important soccer-match... which they talk about all day, next day. (Not saying everyone is like this)

When we've lost being in touch with our emotions and being, it's difficult to truly connect with each other (feel/think/do 'deeper') on most levels, so usually, this (talking about TV shows) could be just one of the ways with which we try to interact with each other in some way.

I couldn't agree more with you. It does appear that many people enjoy knowing a little about whatever they find most interesting. Some find it in sports, others in academics, and still others in so many other topics. I don't mind the TV but if I do egage in watching it, its typically a movie. I recently watched V for Vendetta as I love its many well constructed messages.
 
I would like to better understand that perhaps as tv is pacifying the masses it is also equipping their psyches. Perhaps the masses will awaken to not need briefed about duties or purposes... But prepped and trained, accordingly. :-)
 
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