Lion doing BaHa breathing? :)

HowToBe

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He just keeps breathing faster and faster. It even seems like it's divided into three stages, but maybe my mind plays tricks on me. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDY2OAjZgio

EDIT: I found similar videos. This must be a common behavior. Maybe there's something to this?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qrDGkaznHI
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUZMjQrLk7k
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCupOH01GkM

You can really see the belly breathing in that last one! ;D
 
Amazing HowToBe,

Finally footage of a white lion, can you say MARVELOUS, absolutely MARVELOUS. The C's said that cats purr because of vagus nerve self stimulation, but ohh so cool. Thanks for sharing.
 
bngenoh said:
Amazing HowToBe,
The C's said that cats purr because of vagus nerve self stimulation, but ohh so cool.

can you post that particular statement from the C's ?
 
Pashalis said:
can you post that particular statement from the C's ?
Here it is Pashalis:
Laura said:
[...]
(Bubbles) Okay, this is a very mundane question and you're all going to laugh at me, but has anybody ever figured out why cats purr?
A: Self stimulation of the vagus nerve or the cat equivalent.

Q: (Bubbles) Now I know! It's a question I've been wanting to know the answer to since I was 4.

(Mr. Scott) So Kitty does Eiriu Eolas all day, all the time.

(Bubbles) That's why cats live for so long.

(Ailén) That's why they have 9 lives.

[...]
It's from the 22 February 2010 session.
 
HowToBe said:
He just keeps breathing faster and faster. It even seems like it's divided into three stages, but maybe my mind plays tricks on me. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDY2OAjZgio

EDIT: I found similar videos. This must be a common behavior. Maybe there's something to this?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qrDGkaznHI
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUZMjQrLk7k
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCupOH01GkM

You can really see the belly breathing in that last one! ;D

Well, yes it is common behaviour. In fact all male lions in possession of a territory do this because it advertises their precence to other prides and lone males. It's the lion equivalent of a wolf pack howling.

In short I don't really see where you are coming from or how this is related to purring.
 
Ben said:
Well, yes it is common behaviour. In fact all male lions in possession of a territory do this because it advertises their precence to other prides and lone males. It's the lion equivalent of a wolf pack howling.

In short I don't really see where you are coming from or how this is related to purring.
They said "Self stimulation of the vagus nerve or the cat equivalent." it seems there is a debate on whether big cats can even purr and the mechanism related to that ability if they can purr.
Do Lions and Tigers Purr?

There is actually some debate over this topic in the scientific community. Some biologists maintain that big cats such as lions and tigers cannot purr, because they have adapted special physical traits in order to be able to roar which preclude purring ability. Others believe that the big cats can and do purr, although they may not purr exactly like household cats. Study of big cats in a variety of environments appears to bear out the second theory, that they do in fact purr for many of the same reasons that smaller cats do.

The exact mechanism of purring is not completely understood. It is believed that purring is accomplished with the use of the hyoid bone, a small flexible bone located in the neck. When the cat pushes air through its voicebox, it rattles the hyoid bone, creating the distinctive purr sound. Purring may also be caused by false vocal cords, located slightly behind the cat's actual vocal cords. The debate over how cats purr has greatly complicated the issue of whether or not big cats can purr.

Biologists who believe that big cats cannot purr generally support the hyoid bone theory. They argue that big cats have developed a slightly different hyoid bone, which is less flexible, and thus able to serve as the mechanism behind the roar. The sacrifice in flexibility, however, means that the hyoid could not be used to purr. However, other biologists believe that big cats actually can purr, although they can only purr when exhaling, rather than continuously, like a house cat or smaller cat breeds. This may be accomplished through limited vibration of the hyoid, or through the false vocal cords.

The purring noise made by big cats undoubtedly sounds different than the purr of smaller cats. It resembles a cough or a growl more than a purr, which may have led to confusion about whether or not big cats actually purr. Both lions and tigers purr when they are with a group, and use purring to communicate with kittens as well. Like the purr of a smaller cat, the purr of large cats may resonate at a frequency which promotes healing, explaining why cats purr when they are injured or distressed.

Many textbooks state that only small cats, members of the Felix genus, can purr. However, it appears that cats in the genus Panthera, such as lions, tigers, leopards, and jaguars, also purr. It also believed these big cats may not be able to purr while meowing, growling, or eating, unlike smaller cats.
Source: http://www.wisegeek.com/do-lions-and-tigers-purr.htm

If it's related to purring in anyway, it would sound different coming from a lion than a house cat, not saying that in that specific video it wasn't just saying "i am here."
 
Ben said:
HowToBe said:
He just keeps breathing faster and faster. It even seems like it's divided into three stages, but maybe my mind plays tricks on me. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDY2OAjZgio

EDIT: I found similar videos. This must be a common behavior. Maybe there's something to this?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qrDGkaznHI
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUZMjQrLk7k
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCupOH01GkM

You can really see the belly breathing in that last one! ;D

Well, yes it is common behaviour. In fact all male lions in possession of a territory do this because it advertises their precence to other prides and lone males. It's the lion equivalent of a wolf pack howling.

In short I don't really see where you are coming from or how this is related to purring.
Firstly the way the lions were breathing reminded me of baha breathing (although now that I think about it "warriors breath" seems like a good description possibly). Then I remembered the Cassiopaea transcript that bngenoh quoted. Little cats, big cats, I thought there might be some similarity and decided to post about it in case others had some insights. Of course, there is also the awe from witnessing the power in these creatures' voices!

It seems natural to me that lions would experience some stress relief from stating their territory, especially with all that deep breathing involved! ;)
 
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