Loud increasing ringing & whistling noise

Re: Sudden frequency-like ringing in ears

[quote author=Michael 20 Feb 2009] I could barely hear 6khz, yet 7khz hurt my teeth [/quote]

Strange you should mention those two frequences - between them they merged with the ringing in my ears, so that it seemed as though my whole head was filled with the sound. My teeth weren't affected though.

My range is between 12 / 13 kHz, but I could still hear hear this frequency even after I'd switched off the amplifers, over and above the ear ringing. I also kept having to turn the sound down; did anyone else have to keep doing this?

Thanks for sharing this link, Pepperfritz. It was a most interesting experiment.
 
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Bedower, FWIW, my range was was at 12/13 khz and I kept having to turn down the sound. My teeth did not hurt, but the sound is "hurtful" like fingernails on a blackboard.

The lower range sound did not kick in for me until between 20/30 hz.

For many years now, I have experienced ear ringing. (I am 58). I have never been able to attribute it to anything or pattern. Sometimes it suddenly becomes louder in one ear. I do live by myself and am surrounded by silence most of the time. In social settings or when I play music the ringing is not distracting.

While listening to the hearing test I did notice a sort of "swirling" of the sound. One ear seemed to pick up on the sound change first and not the same ear each time, and that had the effect of seeming like my whole head was filled with the sound.
 
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lostinself said:
seek10 said:
If this is true , if the lower frequencies are sent to manipulate emotion, we should be able to hear ?

i think it's not about audio waves that are said to be used for mind control purposes but rather EM waves pulsating with certain frequencies. in the latter case we won't be able to hear anything in ordinary way.

...though sound waves can also be used for influencing people's moods:

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/southern_counties/4768643.stm
Low frequencies can't travel long distances, so they use high frequency carriers signals overwhich they can over lay low frequency signal for effect. Here is another interesting article frequency notes
Very low frequency (VLF) sound (20-35 KHz), or low-frequency RF modulations can cause nausea, vomiting and abdominal pains. "Some very low frequency sound generators, in certain frequency ranges, can cause the disruption of human organs and, at high power levels, can crumble masonry (18)."

17Hz is very close to the frequency (16Hz) at which radio-frequency /microwave radiation of sub-thermal intensities that is amplitude modulated in various ways - in particular, continuously (sinusoidally) and discontinuously (pulsed) - is reported, mainly under in vitro conditions, to cause: (i) a significant increase in loss (efflux) of calcium from brain cells, which is, however, reproducible only under certain exposure conditions [4], and which occurs even in the case of dead brain tissue; since calcium triggers release of neurotransmitters, any disturbance in the delicate balance of this chemical could well upset the integrity of the nervous (and also the immune) system; (ii) increased levels [5] of Ornithine Decarboxylase (ODC), a (rate limiting) enzyme that plays an important role in DNA replication, and possibly also in cancer promotion (see Para.9); (iii) opposing (and thus possibly stress inducing) effects [6] on the principal inhibitory and excitatory neuro-mediating brain chemicals that underpin the activity of the central nervous system. In addition, it should further be noted that the TETRA frame repetition rate is also close to the frequency at which seizures can be provoked in people suffering from photosensitive epilepsy by exposure to a light, flashing at between 15-20 times per second (see Para.8).
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More disturbing is that the low frequencies that characterise the GSM/TETRA pulsing are close to those at which it is known that human mood and behaviour can be influenced in a number of ways (ranging from depression/docility to rage), depending on the kind/ frequency of modulation used [7], it being actually possible to induce sounds, and even words, intercranially by appropriate modulations of the microwave signal [8]. How Exposure to GSM & TETRA Base-station Radiation can Adversely Affect Humans by G J Hyland

In 1977, the CIA contacted Margaret Thatcher and gave her all the details, elf frequencies, to induce cancer, paranoia (4.5 Hz), depression (6.66 Hz), manic rage (11.3 Hz) [2001] The Secret Uses Of Microwave Mind Control By The British----Tim Rifat

The British Government is spending 2 1/2 billion pounds on a 400 MHz pulse modulated microwave transmitter network which broadcasts 17.6 Hz into the brains of all Britain's police and anyone living near the planned 30,000 transmitters.[2001] The TETRA System: Mass UK Mind Control Technology and the Zombification Of Britain's Police is Now A Reality by Tim Rifat

Dr Adey demonstrated how a 147-megahertz (MHz) field, which at tissue level had an intensity of 0.8 milliwatts per square centimetre, caused an efflux or release of calcium ions from the irradiated brain tissue. This response only occurred when the ELF modulation of the microwave carrier-wave had an amplitude modulated at 6-20 hertz (Hz). The maximum stimulation of the neurones took place at 16 Hz, but to either side of this frequency-range parameter there was no effect

Waves below 6 cycles per second caused the subjects to become very emotionally upset, and even disrupted bodily functions. At 8.2 cycles, they felt very high... an elevated feeling, as though they had been in masterful meditation, learned over a period of years. Eleven to 11.3 cycles induced waves of depressed agitation leading to riotous behavior
 
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[quote author=Annette1 yesterday] While listening to the hearing test I did notice a sort of "swirling" of the sound. [/quote]

Yes, I noticed the sound change within the frequency. I just put it down to a 'dodgy' recording.

[quote author=Annette1 yesterday] One ear seemed to pick up on the sound change first and not the same ear each time [/quote]

Same here, although it seemed to be my right ear with the lower frequencies but definitely my left (the 'sharp' ear I use for the phone and listening to people talking) for the higher frequencies.

[quote author=Annette1 yesterday] Sometimes it suddenly becomes louder in one ear. [/quote]

Is that each ear at different times? I ask because I read somewhere that the 'sensory' right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, which would include the left ear and the left eye, and the 'logical' left half of the brain controls the right side of the body ditto. If this is true, it may be important which ear we hear the ringing/humming/whistling noise, especially if it has a 4D source. For me, it's usually the left ear although sometimes it seems to be coming from the back of my head, if that makes sense!

If age is a factor in the ability to hear frequencies, I have to admit to being 63 going on 35 (the best age for a woman to be, imo), and my hearing now is just as sharp as it was when I was younger, thank goodness. Like other forumites, I've been experiencing this ringing for years, also the hum or whine of electricity and electrical appliances.

It's nice to know there are others with the same problem(?) ability(?).
 
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I have a background in audio engineering and want to just point out that there is a huge variation likely among the equipment everyone is using to administer these self-tests. In order to really know with certainty what your range of hearing is you would need to do this test in a controlled setting with the proper equipment. It is fairly likely among those doing this with their home computer that there are 1) limitations to what your system can reproduce (especially in the lower frequencies) as well as 2) artifacts or distortions added to the sound. So while this may tell you something in a general sense, I would not assume this as the last word about your hearing range. fwiw.
 
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thevenusian said:
... I would not assume this as the last word about your hearing range. ...

Thank you, thevenusian. I wasn't placing any large value in it.

bedower said:
Is that each ear at different times?

As I have not kept any notes on it, it seems that the ringing increases in volume more times in the right ear for several seconds. But I have experienced it in both ears. I would have to keep written notes on it to discover any pattern. (BTW, I am left-handed/left earred and tend to favor left ear for more "intensive listening" or telephone.)
 
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Interesting thread. I've had tinnitus for the last few years due to playing in bands, so I'm unsure whether the ringing I have is solely from loud music or, nowadays, a combination of some neurological warning system that activates when I am thinking a certain way.

What's odd is that I've noticed that depending on my thoughts, or if my thinking shifts a certain way, whether in a positive or negative way, that sometimes the frequencies tend to shift or change to varying degrees. Sometimes I can hear multiple frequencies at once, some of which pulsate. At odd times, one ear will ring louder then the other. Within the last several months, I've had several ear infections (I think). I've never gone to the Doctors to check it out but when they happen I suffer from pain IN my ear. It seems to usually be my left ear, although if I remember correctly the last time it happened was my right ear.

That, and now when I turn on my television, it makes the most annoying whistling sound ever!!
 
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[quote author=thevenusian yesterday] I would not assume this as the last word about your hearing range. [/quote]

Nor I, but it was still an interesting 'assessment', nonetheless, especially for me when it hit the 6-7 kHz frequency. And it did give me some idea of frequency sounds, which I hadn't known before. Not a total waste of time, osit, but your professional input is much appreciated. Have you yourself noticed how and in what way sound frequencies can affect human behaviour? It would be interesting if you would share your own observations, or if you have any theory about the cause of ear-ringing, other than 4D monitoring?

[quote author=Annette1 yesterday] BTW, I am left-handed/left earred and tend to favor left ear for more "intensive listening" or telephone.)
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So you are a 'right-brain' person, according to the theory. Are there any threads descussing the right brain/left brain polarity, does anyone know? It would be informative to read the forum perspective on this. I'm right-handed/left earred, fwiw.
 
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bedower said:
So you are a 'right-brain' person, according to the theory. Are there any threads descussing the right brain/left brain polarity, does anyone know? It would be informative to read the forum perspective on this. I'm right-handed/left earred, fwiw.

Hi bedower,

In using the search function, I found that thread about left brain vs right brain:

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=7321
 
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DanielS said:
That, and now when I turn on my television, it makes the most annoying whistling sound ever!!
Suggest you keep it turned off then! You'll only benefit. ;)
 
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As a "leftie" I have some doubts about the left/right brain theory's supposition. I was around before they made left-handed scissors, and therefore I was obliged to learn to use scissors with my right hand. Some friends taught me to crochet. I naturally held the crochet hook in my left hand. However, my friends were all right-handed and they had problems in attempting to "transfer" the looping activity, thus they insisted if they were going to teach me I hold the crochet hook in my right hand. I crochet "right-handed" and I hold a baseball bat with my right hand. There, I think I just mimicked how everyone else was doing it. I've often wondered if the person who established "proper" place settings (fork on the left; knife and spoon on the right) was left handed. Left brain/Right brain??? I think I'm just addled! Just striving not to become Jellied!!! :lol:
 
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[quote author=Namaste Today] In using the search function, I found that thread about left brain vs right brain:

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=7321 [/quote]

Thanks for that link, namaste. Also, finger-wag noted - I should have made a search before I posited the question. :rolleyes:

[quote author=Annette1 Today] I've often wondered if the person who established "proper" place settings (fork on the left; knife and spoon on the right) was left handed. [/quote]

Erm... I wouldn't know about that - nearly all the Brits I know find it awkward using the fork in the right hand a la americans - that is what you mean, yes? But left hand fork/right hand knife is learnt through usage, as with any tools. You have my sympathy being forced to use your 'awkward' right hand by right-handed teachers. It won't change things for you your end, but in Islam the left hand is considered to be unclean - it is the hand used to deal with hygienic cleansing in the bathroom, so left-handed Muslims have a very hard time of it, being forced to use their right hands all the time.

[quote author=annette1 Today] I think I'm just addled! Just striving not to become Jellied!!! [/quote]

If this is true, and I don't think for one moment it is, then all I can say is that you're in very good company! ;D
 
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Quote from Bedower...
...it was still an interesting 'assessment', nonetheless, especially for me when it hit the 6-7 kHz frequency. And it did give me some idea of frequency sounds, which I hadn't known before. Not a total waste of time, osit, but your professional input is much appreciated. Have you yourself noticed how and in what way sound frequencies can affect human behaviour? It would be interesting if you would share your own observations, or if you have any theory about the cause of ear-ringing, other than 4D monitoring?

Being able to isolate and listen to different frequency bands is indeed an excellent way to learn to hear them. The human auditory range is from approx 20 Hz (Hertz is wave cycles per second) at the low end to 20 kHz (kilo-Hertz is times a thousand) at the high end. That translates into 20 vibrations per second up to twenty thousand vibrations per second. As evidenced by the individual reports on this thread, each person's actual hearing range is a little different, depending on age, hearing damage and many other factors. Some people do seem to be able to hear extremely high-pitched sound. But at the top end we are talking about only a few kHz difference between average and exceptional hearing. So if it is an audible tone, it lies somewhere in this range, roughly 20 Hz - 20 kHz. At the upper end, sound disappears into thin and sparkly high. At the lower end, we start to feel the waves in our bodies. If you've ever been to a rock concert and gotten near the speaker array, you have felt the low frequency and know what I mean.

The human ear is a magnificent little amplifier. As far as I know there are only 2 types of sources that input information to the physical ear. Vibrations from outside the ear, and vibrations from physiological processes taking place within the body. I do not know a great deal about the latter, but I do know there are some major blood vessels near the inner ear and that blood-pressure fluctuations can produce audible tones. Tinnitus can manifest in different ways with different people and can be due to different kinds of damage. There can also be hearing loss or damage which has an effect only in a certain portion of the audio spectrum. Different medications can also effect hearing, for instance too much aspirin can make your ears ring.

With those vibrations coming from outside the body, there are a few properties of sound waves which can definitely produce tones, ringing and strange artifacts in our hearing range. Since sound is vibration, it travels to our ears in waves. There can be, and usually are all sorts of different frequencies in the sound waves which reach our ears- all mixed together. The waves bounce around environments depending on the properties of the things in that environment. All the different wavelengths bouncing around in different environments create many possibilities for sounds. If you clap your hands in a bare cement room, the sound will be very 'bright' meaning the higher frequencies will be loud. This is because the shorter wave-length higher frequencies are all being reflected back to us and keep bouncing around. Do the same in a room padded with thick carpets and the sound will be softer and more 'dead' sounding, because the higher frequency parts of the soundwave we produced by clapping get absorbed by the carpet and do not bounce back to us.

If you drop a stone into a calm pool of water the waves move out from the source in a ring and it is easy to tell the waves apart. But once the waves reach the edge of the pool, they begin returning back upon themselves. After a few sets of waves have gotten going, the wave patten becomes much more complex as each new set interacts in new ways with the edge and more and more waves. Sound vibrations do the same thing. And since soundwaves contain many different frequencies of sound vibration, all with variations in wavelength and strength, different situations can produce certain types of interactions amongst the waves which we hear. Sometimes interesting audible phenomena result. The ones which to my mind would be capable of producing ringing or high-pitched tones would be harmonics or resonance.

A basic description of harmonics
(from _http://library.thinkquest.org/C005705/English/sound/sound5.htm):

"The frequencies at which standing waves can exist in a given rope with each end fixed are the natural frequencies or resonant frequencies of that rope. A rope, a spring and even the air in an air column have many natural frequencies, which are often labeled harmonics.

The first harmonic is the simplest mode of vibration and accounts for the fundamental tone. In a rope this means that the rope moves in only one segment, like a jump rope. Overtones are the modes of vibrations that a string, in this case, vibrates in more than one segment. The second harmonic produces the first overtone. The third harmonic produces the second overtone, and so on. In a rope with both ends tied there are only certain ways that this can occur, the frequencies of the overtones are whole number multiples of the fundamental frequency. Almost all vibrating objects produce overtones, which combine with the fundamental. One reason that tuning forks are so important to the study of sound is that their overtones vanish quickly, leaving only the fundamental.
The appearance of a wave, its waveform, is determined by the number and relative intensity levels of the harmonics in its vibration. The quality of the sound, important to music and other things, is a function of its overtones..."

A basic description of resonance
(from _http://library.thinkquest.org/C005705/English/sound/sound6.htm)

"A driving force in tune with the natural frequency (sometimes known as the resonant frequency) of an oscillator can buildup larger amplitudes than the oscillator could alone. This buildup is known as resonance or sympathetic vibration. Imagine swinging on a swing. If someone pushes you at the right time, the amplitude of your swing increases. The pushing has to be at the correct frequency, however. If someone pushes you at random intervals, the chances are it will not cause you to swing very much higher, but if the pushing is in tune with your natural frequency, you can go very high indeed. This principle applies to more than swings.
Put two tuning forks of equal frequencies side by side, but not touching. Strike one tuning fork so that you can hear its tone, and then suddenly silence it. You can still hear a faint tone. This is because the second tuning fork has started vibrating sympathetically..."

There is a dizzying array of potential soundwave sources all around most of us which have the potential of combining as mentioned above. Traffic, airplanes, ships, computers, tv, appliances, people talking, music, electronic equipment of all sorts, etc. In order for the ringing to be perceived by the auditory system, though, the end result has to lie within the audible range. We cannot hear vibrations measured in mHz (mega Hertz= millions of cycles per second) or GHz (billions of cycles per second). We cannot hear cell-phone or television transmission, wi-fi, microwave or the like. Having said that, however, I do take note that we are currently surrounded by more wave-generating equipment than ever before on a grand scale and I think it is at least theoretically possible that there could be sub-harmonics or resonances in certain combinations which might result in an audible tone. There may be others here who know more about that.
I am not qualified to talk about the behavioral relationship to certain sound frequencies. Like you, I am concerned and alarmed at the possibility of manipulation through covert technology like HAARP and subliminal means. I have only just begun researching this though.
 
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Hi to you, thevenusian,

Well, that was a bundle of information and no mistake! Thanks for such a comprehensive response, and for the links. They sound (hem!) worth following up. :) I was familiar with a lot of what you posted, but 'blood pressure fluctuations can produce audible tones' was new to me. Would that be high blood pressure that produces this ear ringing? I'm just associating the word 'high', here. Your comment about rock concerts and speaker arrays resonated (hem!) with me; the repetitive bass notes backing most modern music cause extreme discomfort in my head, and I wonder if that is because I have low blood pressure (again the association of the word 'low'). I'm proud to say I've never been to a rock concert in my life (shudder!)!
 
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One piece of information that is relevant to the thread is that students in high school or college are able to use a specific tone on their cellphones while they are texting messages to each other which is inaudible to the teacher, called the Mosquito Tone or TeenBuzz - _http://journal.plasticmind.com/ears/mosquito-tone-or-how-to-tell-youre-a-youngun/ - which allows them to use their cells to communicate undetected by the teacher.
 
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