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[Ali Xander]

@Perceval - I agree, fellating satan is an odd expression. But isn't that something George Carlin would say? The people on this site are on a whole different level of communication and respect from the general populations of our respective pathocracies. Don't we need these types of expressions in the middle to help facilitate the change into your state of mind? We live in an age of incredible desensitization through consistent violence and vulgarity. Like drug addicts who are slowly weaned off of their choice drug - can't certain vulgarities be used for good?

"Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer."
- Mark Twain

@danny - "He will become that which he fought against."
+ aaron - "He looks overwhelmed."
I agree that SOTT has a great community. So how do we reach out to people like Charlie?
Can we create a layman's guide to resisting the call for violence?
The teachings on this site are deep and well researched, but are there simple quotes and methods for dealing with the coming storm?
Simple things we can pop into peoples forums and comment sections so that people like Charlie will align with the STO philosophy?

 

[anart]

@Perceval - I agree, fellating satan is an odd expression. But isn't that something George Carlin would say?

No, I don't think it is something George Carlin would say. George was brilliant and could get risque and even crass, but he rarely demeaned himself when he spoke. Using such vulgarities is demeaning not only to the listener, but to the speaker and that's the point you seem to be missing. If a mind cannot make an impassioned point without 'going there', then that mind is lacking.

The people on this site are on a whole different level of communication and respect from the general populations of our respective pathocracies. Don't we need these types of expressions in the middle to help facilitate the change into your state of mind? We live in an age of incredible desensitization through consistent violence and vulgarity. Like drug addicts who are slowly weaned off of their choice drug - can't certain vulgarities be used for good?

This is a slippery slope and basically a paramoralistic statement. If humanity is to be reached, it's not going to happen through a lowest common denominator - it's not going to be through their basest instincts and damaged moral guidelines and shattered sensibilities - because - when humanity is led by such things, they are always led deeper into sleep. They follow the part of themselves that is small; that part that responds to such vulgarities.

In short, words matter - thoughts matter - and excusing this sort of lazy, degenerative thought process and verbal display plays into the hands of the PTB - it keeps humankind where they are easily led - asleep - and dreaming that they're brave enough to say bad words to and about the bad guys. It's useless.

 

[Ali Xander]

@anart - Short and sweet, Thank you. I figured as much - I guess I was in a certain state of denial.

But where is the line?

"The game is rigged and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. Good, honest, hard-working people: white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on. Good, honest, hard-working people continue — these are people of modest means — continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who don’t give a fuck about them. They don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t care about you at all! At all! At all! And nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. That’s what the owners count on. The fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that’s being jammed up their assholes every day, because the owners of this country know the truth. It’s called the American Dream, 'cause you have to be asleep to believe it." - George Carlin

Is rich cocksucker any better than fellating satan? Does he demean himself here? Do you think he woke anyone up with this statement? Does this lead people deeper into sleep?

This is the middle ground I'm talking about.

 

[Ali Xander]

LOL! satiation professional. Good one. (profanity removed by moderator) for the confused.

 

[1984]

One could omit the degrading language and still get the point across that psychopaths run the world:

The game is rigged and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. Good, honest, hard-working people: white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on. Good, honest, hard-working people continue — these are people of modest means — continue to elect these rich rulers who don’t care about them. They don’t care about you. They don’t care about you. They don’t care about you at all! At all! At all! And nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. That’s what the owners count on. The fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue flag that’s being jammed down their throats every day, because the owners of this country know the truth. It’s called the American Dream, 'cause you have to be asleep to believe it." - George Carlin

 

[truth seeker]

Excuse my public education. (The word induce is in #4 though) Embarrassed
But say that by moving from the G20 established protests zones into the streets - thus provoking the G20 leaders into cracking down on the protesters.
Couldn't we say that this provocation, if used to our advantage - could be used to influence the minds of those of us that are still asleep?
Or does the end not justify the means?

Could you clarify this for me? :)

Regarding the words provoke and induce, does it really matter which of the two occurred if someone in law enforcement is arresting, beating, shooting, tasering or doing worse to someone?

It seems to me that the way to wake people up is doing what we're doing now - learning about psychopathy in its many guises and also how our machine works. There is no easy shortcut.

Just out of curiosity, you seem a bit identified with this issue. Any reason why?

 

[1984]

LOL! satiation professional. Good one. (profanity deleted by moderator) for the confused.

Ali Xander, you need to re-read the Forum Guidelines and in particular this quote:

Four: We have ZERO tolerance for profanity. If you aren't intelligent enough to say what you think without using language that is objectionable to most civilized people, you're on the wrong board. If you think you can be clever and circumvent the board's auto-censor, go ahead and try it. When we catch you, you'll be gone.

 

[truth seeker]

Also AX can I just ask how old you are? If you're uncomfortable, you can just give a range. Thanks. :)

edit: Apologies if you've said already.

 

[Joe]

But say that by moving from the G20 established protests zones into the streets - thus provoking the G20 leaders into cracking down on the protesters.
Couldn't we say that this provocation, if used to our advantage - could be used to influence the minds of those of us that are still asleep?
Or does the end not justify the means?
Sorry if that didn't come out right, I'm not trying to add to the noise.

That's a difficult question to answer. It needs to be broken down further, I think, in order to get to the real dilemma. The question we need to answer is; who is prepared to take responsibility for endangering the lives of ordinary peaceful demonstrators by confronting the police in this way? Those planning such a confrontation may be 'street-wise' and able to take care of themselves, see trouble coming and get out of the way in time, but will those same people ensure the safety of others who are not so 'street-wise'? Will those others be consulted and told about the risks? Or do we think that we can use them as unwitting sacrificial lambs in an effort to allegedly influence the minds of those that are still asleep?

I'm not suggesting that is the only way to look at it. Maybe there is another angle?

 

[Aaron r]

Hi Ali X, are you saying you would like to be an agent provocateur for good. Don't the PTB use agent provocateurs to stir up trouble because that is exactly what they want? I think street fighting is more likely to turn asleep people of conscience away rather than want them to get involved. Is this why the PTB want to stir up trouble at demonstrations? It keeps people from getting involved?

It seems to me ideas are more dangerous to the PTB. Suppressing provocative ideas is much harder to do than suppressing a crowd of people.