Maori History

[SoCurious]

I don't really know what to make of the attached picture. It is the cover of an album recorded in 1984 and is purported to illustrate the distant history of the Maori. I've looked around the net and cannot find anything about spaceships that remind one of an ark, crashed spaceships (above the entrance to the "ark"), avian type beings, or lizzies captured by Maoris.

What really confuses me is the date of the cover. When did descriptions of Lizzies and Avians first hit the scene? Pre 1984?

 

[SoCurious]

I beg your pardon and indulgence. Picture is attached here.

 

[mkrnhr]

Hello Richard,
The picture looks like an artist's painting of what is usually imagined to be Atlantis in science-fiction. It would be interresting to have a Maori view on Maori history to compare. The feathered gods image is present for thousands of years.
Examples through google : _http://www.gwthomas.org/sirensboat.jpg
_http://www.secret-realite.net/modules/mg3/albums/1255523720/1255644210/horus.jpg
_http://www.gilgameshgames.org/babyloniancaduceus.html
etc.

 

[SoCurious]

Hi mkrnhr,

Thank you for the reply. Yes, certain beings such as feathered beings are in evidence everywhere. The Green Language, Horus etc are outstanding evidence of this.

My question is more related to the date in which "Lizzies" became part of the general public narrative. Were they part of mainstream consciousness in 1984?

I don't have the history of the progression of foo-fighters to alien spacecraft to specific types of alien lifeforms at hand but it strikes me that Lizzies and Avians may have come to public awareness after 1984. I don't know. If these types of beings were "general knowledge" in 1984 then the drawing means very little. But if this was not the case then the drawing means a lot.

The illustration of Maori's actually capturing Lizzies would point to something of greater meaning. Have the Polynesian race previously been at war with the Lizzies? Do they have the capability (ie gene structure) of withstanding and defeating them? Is there something in their past that can shed light on the history of inter-terrestrial warfare?

The date in this regard is very important. Was there general knowledge or even speculation of Lizzies in 1984? Looking at the picture the only thing that seems to be wrong is the size of the Lizzies, but then wouldn't the act of capturing your enemy automatically lead to a diminuation of their size and status?

In my search I did come across a fascinating article by one of my least favoured writers, Eric van Daniken. The article is well worth the read but has very little direct regard to the album cover or history of the same 'story'. Fascinating anyway :)
Have a look at chapter 4 http://www.ols11.com/dprine/Books/PDF%20Books/Erich%20Von%20Daniken%20-%20Gold%20Of%20The%20Gods.pdf

 

[anart]

Richard, there have been reptilian 'gods' recorded back into ancient (and pre-ancient) history - carvings of them, myths, etc. Have you read Secret History of the World, yet? It goes into that a bit.

 

[SoCurious]

Anart,

I'd be blushing if it weren't for one thing. When did the knowledge/idea of reptilians enter mainstream consciousness? Did the Maoris just come across the reptilians somewhere and decide to incorporate them into their history or were they a part of their legends/history already?

Am I barking up a tree with a moss skin?

 

[Esote]

Did the Maoris just come across the reptilians somewhere and decide to incorporate them into their history or were they a part of their legends/history already?

As it appears from the Maoris history, they had quite a Predator's Mind in their midst.
So may be part of them had some acquaintances with Lizzies ?..

 

[anart]

Anart,

I'd be blushing if it weren't for one thing. When did the knowledge/idea of reptilians enter mainstream consciousness? Did the Maoris just come across the reptilians somewhere and decide to incorporate them into their history or were they a part of their legends/history already?

Am I barking up a tree with a moss skin?

I think the question is how are you defining "mainstream consciousness"? If you're defining it by something that occurred in the last 100 years, then by definition, it would have to be within the last one hundred years. What I'm trying to point out is that there have always been 'reptilian gods' reflected in ancient societies - so I'm not sure that you're asking a question that can be definitively answered. (and have you read Secret History?)