Margaret Thatcher - What was she?

[Redrock12]

It would be interesting to see what kind of a reception she got in 5D.

Possible scenario: Geez Margaret, didn't you know that all of you psychopaths go back to primal matter?
What's your next incarnation? Well, how about a dung beetle? This way, you'll get to feed off the misery you put thousands if not millions of innocent, hard-working people thru.
Not to mention all the unnecessary deaths of young British and Argentinian seamen and soldiers in the Falklands war.

Hasta La Vista, Evil One!

 

[Forrestdeva]

It would be interesting to see what kind of a reception she got in 5D.

Possible scenario: Geez Margaret, didn't you know that all of you psychopaths go back to primal matter?
What's your next incarnation? Well, how about a dung beetle? This way, you'll get to feed off the misery you put thousands if not millions of innocent, hard-working people thru.
Not to mention all the unnecessary deaths of young British and Argentinian seamen and soldiers in the Falklands war.

Hasta La Vista, Evil One!

Great scenario....

 

[Redrock12]

It would be interesting to see what kind of a reception she got in 5D.

Possible scenario: Geez Margaret, didn't you know that all of you psychopaths go back to primal matter?
What's your next incarnation? Well, how about a dung beetle? This way,
you'll get to feed off the misery you put thousands if not millions of innocent, hard-working people thru.
Not to mention all the unnecessary deaths of young British and Argentinian seamen and soldiers in the Falklands war.

Hasta La Vista, Evil One!

A more accurate reading would be "you'll be immersed in the misery."

 

[Gwenllian]

I don't know enough about her to comment about her.
[...]
I don't know what this woman did or didn't do.

By watching this great documentary, The Shock Doctrine (1 hr and 18 min long), you will get an idea about what she did. And others like her. It's very hard to watch, but I highly recommend it. I personally learned a lot from it.

Indeed, a very painful documentary, but very informative. Thanks for mentioning it. :)

 

[Navigator]

I don't know enough about her to comment about her.
[...]
I don't know what this woman did or didn't do.

By watching this great documentary, The Shock Doctrine (1 hr and 18 min long), you will get an idea about what she did. And others like her. It's very hard to watch, but I highly recommend it. I personally learned a lot from it.

Indeed, a very painful documentary, but very informative. Thanks for mentioning it. :)

The book by the same name is very good as well.

 

[Rich]

The book by the same name is very good as well.

Yes, the book is very well written and one of those books that should be taught in Schools IMO. - Of course it never will be but when catastrophe strikes, you can see behind headlines the Shock Doctrine tactics being rolled out to capitalise on misfortune regardless of who is suffering.

Re Thatcher, she was famous for supporting Gerneral Pinochet until his death and reading the book explains the similarities in their use of shock therapy tactics: The brutal and bloody coup in Chile led by General Augusto Pinochet and Thatcher using the Falklands War to win re-election.

I remember the catchy protest ditty, "Thatcher Thatcher milk snatcher" after she stopped free milk in schools.

 

[williamsj]

OK, I asked the question and got the answers I expected.

Here is mine:

She was simply the female form of Hitler; she demolished any kind of community and kindred spirit in the UK. She did not preach the ethnic elitism, just a financial one.

To take apart a country the size ( in population terms ) of that size where you leave the needy in a position where they can do nothing which is classified as legal to support themselves, can only lead to anarchy.

Now look at the Toxteth and Brixton + etc riots, and ask where they came from?

She took Hitlers ideas and molded them to fit the modern financial world.

 

[anart]

OK, I asked the question and got the answers I expected.

To whom did you ask the question?

 

[williamsj]

To whom did you ask the question?

Why the forum of course, I did not wish to upset people with my last rather direct comments, I don't like being shouted at. The great British moral says "NEVER speak ill of the dead" [a program, I know], the comments below are as close as they get.

[quote author=Gerry_Adams]Margaret Thatcher did great hurt to the Irish and British people during her time as prime minister. Working class communities were devastated in Britain because of her policies. Her role in international affairs was equally belligerent whether in support of the Chilean dictator Pinochet, her opposition to sanctions against Apartheid South Africa; and her support for the Khmer Rouge. Here in Ireland her espousal of old draconian militaristic policies prolonged the war and caused great suffering.
"Her Ireland policy was a total failure"[/quote]

[quote author=Kim_Howells]It's very difficult now looking back to try and convey the intensity of the feeling against Margaret Thatcher at that time. I mean one doesn't want to speak ill of the dead but she was despised in many many homes across the coalfields of Britain, not just south Wales of course. She had a very definite agenda. She wanted to change the country and a bit like war theory and Clausewitz she realised that sooner or later you had to confront the main enemy and she saw the main enemy, rightly or wrongly, as the National Union of Mineworkers.[/quote]

[quote author=Morrissey]Thatcher will only be fondly remembered by sentimentalists who did not suffer under her leadership, but the majority of British working people have forgotten her already, and the people of Argentina will be celebrating her death. As a matter of recorded fact, Thatcher was a terror without an atom of humanity. [/quote]

These are extracts from quotes on the BBC News website: _http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22067984

 

[Mr. Premise]

I've always loved two anti-Thatcher songs from England. Morrissey's "Margaret on the Guillotine" and Elvis Costello's "Tramp the Dirt Down." They both were fondly looking forward to her death.


Tramp the Dirt Down
Elvis Costello

I saw a newspaper picture from the political
campaign
A woman was kissing a child, who was obviously
in pain
She spills with compassion, as that young child's
face in her hands she grips
Can you imagine all that greed and avarice
coming down on that child's lips

Well I hope I don't die too soon
I pray the Lord my soul to save
Oh I'll be a good boy, I'm trying so hard to behave
Because there's one thing I know, I'd like to live
long enough to savour
That's when they finally put you in the ground
I'll stand on your grave and tramp the dirt down

When England was the whore of the world
Margeret [sic] was her madam
And the future looked as bright and as clear as
the black tarmacadam
Well I hope that she sleeps well at night, isn't
haunted by every tiny detail
'Cos when she held that lovely face in her hands
all she thought of was betrayal

And now the cynical ones say that it all ends
the same in the long run
Try telling that to the desperate father who just
squeezed the life from his only son
And how it's only voices in your head and
dreams you never dreamt
Try telling him the subtle difference between
justice and contempt
Try telling me she isn't angry with this pitiful
discontent
When they flaunt it in your face as you line up
for punishment
And then expect you to say "Thank you"
straighten up, look proud and pleased
Because you've only got the symptoms, you
haven't got the whole disease
Just like a schoolboy, whose head's like a tin-can
filled up with dreams then poured down
the drain
Try telling that to the boys on both sides, being
blown to bits or beaten and maimed
Who takes all the glory and none of the shame

Well I hope you live long now, I pray the Lord
your soul to keep
I think I'll be going before we fold our arms
and start to weep
I never thought for a moment that human life
could be so cheap
'Cos when they finally put you in the ground
They'll stand there laughing and tramp the
dirt down

Margaret on the Guillotine
Morrissey

The kind people
Have a wonderful dream
Margaret on the guillotine
Cause people like you
Make me feel so tired
When will you die ?
When will you die ?
When will you die ?
When will you die ?
When will you die ?

And people like you
Make me feel so old inside
Please die

And kind people
Do not shelter this dream
Make it real
Make the dream real
Make the dream real
Make it real
Make the dream real
Make it real