Marlyn Manson concert

[ALIEN1]

Well, I've been a fan of Marilyn Manson for about 10 years now. I think he do has a lot to say, but not many people can read his message. He is shocking, and he does go very far. For me it's like trying to wake up people with proper slap and a bucket of icy cold water. And I do like it. And he is an artist. All of the best ones were or are like that, too.

 

[truth seeker]

Not sure how I feel either way about Marilyn Manson. I did think he had an interesting interview shortly after the Columbine high school massacre. If I remember correctly, it was in Rolling Stone magazine.

There were also a couple of his songs I liked, the only one that comes to mind off the top of my head is his rendition of "Personal Jesus".

 

[Gonzo]

I think if we are to discuss Marilyn Manson, we should strive for objective truth. That would require removing rumours. There are tons of rumours about Laura as well, but, if anything, they are the opposite of objectivity and truth.

Rumours are often be designed to cause an emotional reaction, bypassing one's critical processes, and often designed to harm their subject.

For those who have not been able to specify why you have come to a negative conclusion about Manson but provided rumours, I suggest you try to step outside of your emotional thinking and recognize the effect that rumours had on your thoughts.

@andi
The smoke you were referring to, did you mean stage smoke or smoke from audience members? Can you still smoke at a concert in Montreal? If so, it must be the last place in Canada. We haven't been able to smoke at concerts for at least decade in Ottawa.

Regarding my take on Manson, I find his music a little too broody for my taste. A girl next to my office plays some Manson, so I've heard more recent works and still can't find much to enjoy.

However, when I have seen him in interviews, I found him to be aware of a few of the things most people (this forum notwithstanding) are oblivious to, mostly along the lines of hidden hands puppetting world affairs. He seemed quite intelligent, coherent and demonstrated a degree of something that looked like compassion. I wasn't sure as his makeup interfered with trying to read his expressions in any significant way. ;)

It is important to note that he cannot seem to be able to step out of his character. He could be so wounded that his character is the only safe way he can experience the world and cannot experience the richness of his self.

I think it is also important to note that his style is rather goth and androdenous. Not sure what to make of the gender obscuring but the goth part is rather a dark (duh, no really?) Way of expression that seems to attract dark, negative people.

Gonzo

 

[WhiteBear]

I think, if he's mirroring, it's a crazy, distorted funhouse mirror, embellishing the dark side of society and really, in a way, making fun of it. I've been a fan since his first album, I've liked some stuff, disliked some stuff, but he's always been able to make me think about what's -behind- the songs. I've heard people say he glorifies darkness and evil, but I've always seen it as putting it in a spotlight and pointing a finger at it and laughing, inviting others to laugh as well.

 

[knowledge_of_self]

I think if we are to discuss Marilyn Manson, we should strive for objective truth. That would require removing rumours. There are tons of rumours about Laura as well, but, if anything, they are the opposite of objectivity and truth.

Rumours are often be designed to cause an emotional reaction, bypassing one's critical processes, and often designed to harm their subject.


For those who have not been able to specify why you have come to a negative conclusion about Manson but provided rumours, I suggest you try to step outside of your emotional thinking and recognize the effect that rumours had on your thoughts.

I agree Gonzo. But rumors aside he still seems to be a very disturbed individual (to me).

However, when I have seen him in interviews, I found him to be aware of a few of the things most people (this forum notwithstanding) are oblivious to, mostly along the lines of hidden hands puppetting world affairs. He seemed quite intelligent, coherent and demonstrated a degree of something that looked like compassion. I wasn't sure as his makeup interfered with trying to read his expressions in any significant way. ;)

I've seen his interviews too. I've seen some with and without his makeup. I couldn't even recognize him without his make up in one interview, recognized his voice and was confirmed by the "Artist: Marylin Manson" caption that came up while watching it.

I do agree he seems to be "intelligent". But than again, a lot of psychopaths are well read, and could be considered intelligent. ;)
I guess you could say he does what he does to shock people, but there are other ways to shock people than what he does imo.

Just my take on it