Massive 7.8M Earthquake In Southern Turkey

A great humanity tragedy is experienced in the 10 provinces and villages of these provinces affected by the earthquake. The fact that the search and rescue teams on duty in the region were also under the rubble since the first earthquake, and the collapse of the entire infrastructure, especially the highways and airports, turned everything into a chaos. It was too late to respond to the earthquake zone and thousands of people froze to death when they could have been saved.
In addition, there was a great solidarity and cooperation between people. This terrible destruction brought people together in a way that psychopaths could never understand. Thousands of people who refuse to play the victim role in front of their televisions in fear and despair have take the road and are doing their best.
As the Cassiopaeans often repeat, it's all about lessons. The accumulation of unlearned lessons strikes in cycles and stronger each time. We see this once again in this terrible destruction in Turkey. Although the country experienced a terrible destruction in 1999, nothing has actually changed despite all these years. And yes, negligence and insensitivity create terrible dangers in this world. And when we look at the state of the planet today, humanity has not even awakened to the reality of psychopathy, let alone its awareness of different densities. Maybe that's why answers have to be learned the hard way, as in Turkey today.

Thank you for your report, Beyrutkapi. Do you live near or in the affected area?

And since I see that you are new to the forum, I would like to remind you to visit our Newbies forum and introduce yourself there. This will allow us to get to know you a little bit and how you arrived here, and give you a proper welcome.
 
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"HAARP?

Turkish intel is SERIOUSLY investigating “a possible criminal intervention” in the earthquakes.

Translation: the involvement of another state in triggering the first earthquake.

There was NO epicenter.

What followed the first earthquake was a chain reaction, after the destabilization of the regional tectonic plates"
 
An article from yesterday, which highlights the problems Erdogan is facing as voices are raised about the earthquake response. Elections are scheduled for May 14th.


Amid Turkiye’s rubble lies Erdogan’s political fate
The full impact of the recent earthquake that hit both Turkiye and Syria has yet to be fully assessed, but the Turkish Republic has already sustained significant damage that could have long-lasting political effects.
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Ceyda Karan
February 13 2023
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“We are being tested day and night by the absence of something that tries to make us believe in its power, might and greatness. (No, it’s not God).”
These words expressed by Dr. Fatih Yaşli, an academic from Bolu Abant Izzet Baysal University, describes the feeling of many Turks who were shocked by the devastating earthquake which ripped through the country’s southern regions and neighboring Syria on 6 February, 2023.
The two earthquakes with magnitudes of 7.7 and 7.6 which hit the Pazarcik and Elbistan districts of Kahramanmaras not only destroyed entire neighborhoods, but, within 24 hours, also ravaged Turkish perceptions of the so-called “omnipotent state” created by President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.
The state’s failure
People were left wondering “Where is help, where is the state?” as they waited desperately under the rubble, while the nation’s infrastructure – once the pride of the Erdogan administration – lay in ruins. The lack of proper relief campaigns and inaccessible cities due to adverse weather conditions added to the suffering of the affected population.
The Gaziantep-Adana highway was in ruins. The newly opened bridge in Malatya collapsed, and the airport, whose terminal roof was damaged, was closed to civilian flights. Hatay (Antioch) could not be reached by air because the airport’s runway, built on the Amik plain despite the warnings of scientists, took heavy damage. Most of the hospitals in Hatay where the wounded headed had collapsed. The town halls no longer existed.
The trauma created by the earthquake, which impacted 10 provinces in Turkiye, was enormous. This was compounded by the realization that help from the state failed to show up in their time of need.
The video shot by Bolu Mayor Tanju Ozcan, who reached Elbistan 24 hours after the earthquake, showed the frantic state of survivors still waiting for help. While the leveled city was covered with a white blanket of snow, Özcan explained that the few aid workers who existed could do nothing. “There are live people here,” he said, pointing to the wreckage.
The 7.4-magnitude Golcuk earthquake that hit Istanbul in 1999 had also shaken the nation with the desperate cries of those trapped in the rubble – and forever altered national politics in its aftermath.
Many who remembered the backlash against authorities during the 1999 catastrophe were shocked to realize that there was actually a functioning state present at that time. The failure to respond to this latest disaster has raised questions about the government’s preparedness and ability to provide assistance in times of crisis.
Inadequate disaster response
Turkiye’s Disaster and Emergency Management Agency (AFAD), under the Ministry of Interior, is responsible for handling national disasters and emergencies. Unlike many other countries where disaster response executives are military experts, AFAD executives in Turkiye are mostly Imam-Hatip (religious school) graduates with questionable qualifications. The agency was also criticized for being understaffed and having major coordination issues.
In the first critical hours after the earthquake, AFAD officers either never arrived at the wreckage or came to only take notes. The lack of available equipment, such as cranes and construction equipment, made it difficult to reach the affected areas.
Experienced miners in the Black Sea region were not dispatched until 48 hours after the earthquake. In contrast, the Turkish Armed Forces (TAF) were deployed within a short period of time during the 1999 Golcuk earthquake, but only 3,500 soldiers were deployed in the first 24 hours this time round.
Civil mobilization and social media bans
On 7 February, the Turkish government declared a state of emergency (OHAL) in the disaster zone and a week of mourning. Despite the outpouring of support from the opposition municipalities and civil society, the government faced criticism for its slow response and lack of preparation. In addition, the Turkish Red Crescent was virtually absent on the ground.
Erdogan responded to criticism by lashing out and claiming that he would address the “lies” and “distortions” leveled at his administration in due course. However, the very next day, social media, which was being used by civil society to save lives via search and rescue posts, was shut down, causing immense outrage.
Access was restored only after celebrated Turkish singer Haluk Levent, known for his charity work, called out the authorities and referred to the social media ban as “equivalent to murder.”
The role of the Turkish army
Perhaps the most controversial issue was the response of the Turkish Armed Forces (TAF) to the catastrophe. Despite the presence of 50 thousand Turkish soldiers in Syria, only 3500 troops were deployed in the first 24 hours after the earthquake.
Minister of National Defense Hulusi Akar was correct when he explained that Turkish troops were delayed due to weather conditions and destroyed land routes. But the failure of President Erdogan to effectively mobilize the TAF did not go unnoticed.
Retired officers who took part in the relief efforts for the 1999 Golcuk earthquake had raised warnings in the early hours of this month’s disaster. Retired Rear Admiral Cem Gurdeniz called for amphibious ships to be sent to the Iskenderun Bay to help Hatay. Meanwhile, teams from countries such as Russia, Spain, and Israel had already established field hospitals.
Experts pointed to the fact that the TAF’s ability and capacity to respond to such disasters had been significantly reduced after and even before the 2016 attempted coup. The closure of the prestigious Gülhane Military Medical Academy (GATA) was cited as an example.
Retired Admiral Turker Erturk, former Black Sea commander, emphasized the importance of the army’s role in both responding to natural disasters and external threats, stating:

Elections and the fate of Erdogan’s AKP
Erdogan’s 20-year term at Turkiye’s helm was built on the wounds inflicted by the 1999 Golcuk earthquak
e. Ironically, his political downfall could now be brought about by the 2023 one.
On 9 February, a Turkish official informed Reuters that “there are serious difficulties ahead of holding the elections on May 14.” President Erdogan’s mandate only allows him to postpone the elections in case of war, which requires the approval of his opposition. However, there are already suggestions that he may use the state of emergency as a delaying tactic.
Erdogan may have already hinted at this, without directly mentioning the elections: “We believe that we will complete this process, which means the construction of hundreds of thousands of houses with their infrastructure and superstructure, in a short time. I want one year from you.”
Orhan Bursali, a columnist for Cumhuriyet Daily, is of this opinion, as he believes Erdogan fears significant losses if they were to proceed on schedule. Bursali cites Turkiye’s poor economic conditions and corruption as reasons for this calculation.
“Now, this great earthquake has created the natural conditions for postponing the election. This opportunity is in the pocket of the Palace,” he said.
Dr Fatih Yaşli, on the other hand contends that Erdogan’s authority to postpone the elections is only in question “in case of war,” which he considers a remote possibility, even if the president manages to strike a compromise with the opposition.
Yaşli posits that the construction-oriented economy and politics based on rent distribution adhered to by Erdogan’s Justice and Development Party (AKP) for 20 years have collapsed with this earthquake. He points out that Turkish anger is not limited to the earthquake-struck regions and can be observed countrywide, disrupting the president’s carefully laid plans:

Ramifications on foreign policy
Foreign policy analyst and political scientist Aydin Sezer warns that Erdogan’s AKP is facing a difficult situation and cannot evade the issues by hiding behind the magnitude of the earthquake – or linking the destruction to “fate and religion” and distributing cash to placate the public, as in the past.
Sezer argues that “the election is not just about the transfer of power, it’s a matter of survival for the AKP.” This could compel Erdogan to create an urgent, dire situation in Syria that can be interpreted as a “war.”
In light of these circumstances, it is crucial to understand the delicate state of Turkiye’s relations with its western NATO allies, particularly in regard to Syria.
While the earthquake brought together the destinies of Turkiye and Syria in mere minutes, it is significant that Ankara did not respond to calls to open its borders and create an air corridor for aid outside the territories controlled by Turkish ally and Al-Qaeda-affiliate, Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS).
Before the earthquake, Turkiye had established contact with Damascus through Russian mediation, which had already drawn the ire of Washington. The Joe Biden administration has openly objected to any potential reconciliation between Ankara and Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad.
The recent earthquake in Turkiye and the ongoing election agenda have sparked a heated debate about the direction the country is heading in. With the Biden administration objecting to Ankara’s Syria policy, and the financial burden of the earthquake, there is now immense political and economic pressure on the Turks to participate in sanctions against Russia.
Turkiye’s economy, which was already struggling with high inflation, high exchange rates, and falling living standards, is estimated to have suffered a financial loss of more than $100 billion due to the earthquake. The affected zone accounts for 8.7 percent of the country’s exports, worth $19.76 billion, and there is a risk of a decrease in production and exports, as well as a new wave of migration from the region.
Post-quake Turkiye?

In this context, long-term loans from the International Monetary Fund (IMF), World Bank, and EU are being discussed. The US and EU still need NATO-member Turkiye, but they do not consider President Erdogan a reliable partner in the alliance.
This disaster is likely to affect the political and economic balances in Turkiye, and the outcome domestically is unclear. Erdogan’s first move after the earthquake was to phone the leaders of the right-wing parties in the Turkish opposition bloc – excluding the leader of his mainstream opposition, the social-democratic Republican People’s Party (CHP) – raising the possibility of a right-wing “national unity government.”
This scenario would mean a new Turkish re-alignment with the west and the US. Postponing the elections until autumn by reconciling with the opposition would maintain the policy of balance between the west and the east, while indefinitely postponing them would reinforce the notion of pivoting toward the east.
Turkiye faces a complex political and economic situation, and it is unclear which direction the country will take in the short term. In the meantime, the Turkish people are experiencing the trauma of this uncertainty, and the absence of the “sacred state.”
Great example of Soros's wishful thinking. And a very small or none conection with the reality.
 
Great example of Soros's wishful thinking. And a very small or none conection with the reality.
True. Yet the US loves to use reasonable discontent to stoke those fires with the aim of regime change, so Turkiye still has to be on their toes. It is part of the NATO battle to keep Turkiye within its sphere and they are unlikely to spare efforts in that regard.
 
What changes the world are not particular events, but overall or average mass. What are the thoughts of the majority of the average people in the particular area or as a whole. Particular events can be triggers, but there has to be average mass on the line with the goal you want to achieve with the event.

Thats why the war in Ukraine is not going in the direction the West wanted, or why there is more failed "regime changes" than succesful ones in recent years. Average mass is fed up of the West's psychos trying to rule the world. (except in west Europe, offcourse. But they are not majority of people even in whole of Europe).
 
Renk devrimi için iyi bir fırsat. Yukarıda diğerlerinin de belirttiği gibi, güçlerin yararlanabileceği bir insani kriz daha.

It is a good opportunity for a color revolution. As others have mentioned above, one more humanitarian crisis that the powers that be can take advantage of.
Nice tactic. First bring the corrupt psychopaths or crazy people to power, then bring freedom to the people who are fed up with them. Either way, the house wins. Either way, people suffer more.
 
In Mexico we had a similar experience, the rampant corruption of the government of President Miguel de la Madrid (1982-1988) allowed construction companies to bypass all construction regulations and use very low quality materials both to lower costs and to steal the budget in complicity with the construction companies.

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With the M8.1 earthquake on September 19, 1985 all the corruption was discovered. The government issued new regulations and I don't remember any prosecution of those responsible, both from the government and private companies, it took another earthquake and other building collapses on September 19, 2017 to realize that little had changed. Once again, construction companies skipped regulations in complicity with public officials.

Corruption kills more than an earthquake-producing machine

Turkey's lax policing of building codes known before quake

Turkey has for years tempted fate by not enforcing modern construction codes while allowing — and in some cases, encouraging — a real estate boom in earthquake-prone areas, experts say.

The lax enforcement, which experts in geology and engineering have long warned about, is gaining renewed scrutiny in the aftermath of this week's devastating earthquakes, which flattened thousands of buildings and killed more than 23,000 people across Turkey and Syria.

“This is a disaster caused by shoddy construction, not by an earthquake,” said David Alexander, a professor of emergency planning at University College London.

It is common knowledge that many buildings in the areas pummeled by this week’s two massive earthquakes were built with inferior materials and methods, and often did not comply with government standards, said Eyup Muhcu, president of the Chamber of Architects of Turkey.

He said that includes many old buildings, but also apartments erected in recent years — nearly two decades after the country brought its building codes up to modern standards. “The building stock in the area was weak and not sturdy, despite the reality of earthquakes,” Muhcu said.

The problem was largely ignored, experts said, because addressing it would be expensive, unpopular and restrain a key engine of the country's economic growth.

Shortly before Turkey's last presidential and parliamentary election in 2018, the government unveiled a sweeping program to grant amnesty to companies and individuals responsible for certain violations of the country's building codes. By paying a fine, violators could avoid having to bring their buildings up to code. Such amnesties have been used by previous governments ahead of elections as well.


The Turkish Chamber of Engineers Building was not damaged.

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In the epicenter of the earthquakes in Turkey, there was a surviving city without dead - the mayor strictly prohibited illegal construction. Erzin with a population of 42 thousand people is located in Hatay province — one of the most affected by earthquakes. However, the city escaped with damage to buildings. "We had no human casualties, no injuries, no collapses," Mayor Okkesh Elmasoglu said. He explains this by banning any violations of construction standards and strict inspections — despite the dissatisfaction of developers. "I didn't compromise, and it cost me a quarrel with a lot of people. But my conscience is clear," Elmasoglu said.

Yep, here lies one of the main reasons for uncountable yet losses of lives😱
In capitalism-human life costs nothing, for 300% revenue - they will let to kill anybody (paraphrase of K.Marx)
 
My brother in law worked for a couple of years in Wien with the turkish firms. (thats how it goes in the Balkans...). They renovated old houses and build new buildings. They did "saved" on material, even in Austria and despite harsh Austrian regulations. (as the saying goes: money drills, even when machines doesnt).
 

some positive news :)

Woman, 77, is pulled from the rubble of the Turkey earthquake after 212 hours – with brothers aged 17 and 21, and girl of 15 also among the miracle rescues

A 77-year-old woman pulled from the rubble of a collapsed building 212 hours after two huge earthquakes devastated Turkey and Syria was among the miracle rescues made yesterday.

Fatma Gungor was pulled out from under the rubble of a collapsed building in Adiyaman province, Turkey after being trapped for nearly nine days.

And Syrian teenager Seher Ghanam, 15, was one of the at least nine people to be found alive Turkey's Hatay province yesterday – 209 hours on from the disaster.

[More positive rescues noted in the body of the link.]
 
As yesterday was a strike in public transport in Germany, I had to take an Uber and was talking to the drivers about their day.

One of them was from Syria so I asked him if he has a family in the areas that were hit by the earthquake.
He said that his family is 20km away and that noone was injured.
He is very angry at world at large, saying that there is no more humanity in the world.
I chimed in that it is because od psychopaths in power and he looked at me stunned and said yes! and how the president Bashar is one of them…

Then i moved on and I asked about if they were getting help (to see what will he said) and he said that the help is coming in form of food and basic supplies but what they really need is a heavy machinery that would help removing the debris as currently people are practically digging with their hands to get under and to save people. 😕
 
He is very angry at world at large, saying that there is no more humanity in the world.
I chimed in that it is because od psychopaths in power and he looked at me stunned and said yes! and how the president Bashar is one of them…
That man would have deeply appreciated meeting another souled being who could truly SEE and affirm what he also sees.

I saw on the French news this morning that in the earthquake zones they are desperate for TENTS... one of their biggest issues (apart from not having machinery) is not having accommodation for people. I would assume also sleeping bags, some kind of bedrolls, camping beds etc.

Another really big issue is people not having anywhere to go to the toilet /
the disease that will spread if that does not change very quickly.

Heavens only knows how those in Syria are coping...
very little help there in any form, and so many issues with the borders.

😟💔
 
This page gives detailed info, by country, on aid sent and in what form: money, personnel and what for/type (including rescue dogs), types of supplies sent, etc...
SNIP:
Various countries and organizations have responded to the 6 February 2023 Turkey–Syria earthquake. At least 105 countries and 16 international organizations pledged support for victims of the earthquake, including humanitarian aid.[1] At least eleven countries provided teams with search and rescue dogs to locate victims under the debris[2] and monetary support was offered as well.[3][4][5] However, outreach to Syria was "less enthusiastic" because of the Western sanctions on the country.[6][7]

One of them was from Syria so I asked him if he has a family in the areas that were hit by the earthquake.
He said that his family is 20km away and that noone was injured.
He is very angry at world at large, saying that there is no more humanity in the world.
⬆️ As for aid to Syria, the following was stated:

Insufficient aid to affected areas in Syria​

On 12 February UN aid chief Martin Griffiths said "We have so far failed the people in northwest Syria. They rightly feel abandoned. Looking for international help that hasn't arrived,".[369]

As of 13 February most reported Syrian deaths were in parts of the north-west not controlled by the government.[370] The affected area is controlled by many different organizations and they sometimes obstruct aid from another organization.[371] There was not enough modern rescue equipment to get people out from under the rubble before they died, and international aid has been obstructed by checkpoints.[372]

Syrian government officials and state-run media blamed United States and European Union sanctions against the country for the lack of humanitarian aid and hampering rescue. On 10 February, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad criticized western countries, adding that they “have no regard for the human condition.”[373]

As of 11 February almost no international aid had reached the area controlled by Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS),[372] and they have refused to accept aid from the Syrian government.[374] As of 13 February Bab al-Hawa is the only border crossing from Turkey the UN is allowed to send aid through: the others were blocked by earlier Security council vetos by Russia and China.[375][376][374]
 

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