Massive 'drone swarm' in and around New Jersey: UFO flap, govt tech, or mass hysteria?

That has kinda been my idea from the beginning: the main reason for the drones was to make a lot of noise so the signal was drowned out.

Yes! Or to just prepare the people mentally to get used to have weird stuff showing up more frequently in our skies. Maybe the US being the STS major center will have more weird phenomena showing first and little by little will be happening anywhere else.
But all this could be also something that could be taken as an opportunity that the PTB would like to use to politicize, and create more narratives pro war around it. Like the Iranian ship nonsense or something like that.
 
Another update from Dolan:


He laments the lack of regular media coverage about sightings of all kinds, and specifically the lack of details for almost all of the supposed 5,000+ sightings/reports of 'New Jersey Drones'. He then goes through the various theories, without favoring any one in particular, but is especially astonished that not a single 'drone' has been taken down yet.

Next is US Navy pilot Ryan Graves, who had his own 'mystery drone encounters' - along with many other pilots - in 2019. Rogan had him on his podcast, and here's the part where they discussed the NJ 'swarm':


Note Graves mentions that there were previously TWO 'swarms' at Langley AFB in the run-up to Christmas, prompting him and his colleagues to anticipate another one this year. Well, it happened, but on a much bigger scale and over a much bigger area!
A couple more highlights: he doesn't think the "nuke sniffing" theory holds any water. He knows people tasked with those kinds of operations, and they're not doing them. Ross Coulthart's sources are saying the same thing, as are Chris Mellon's. Similarly, Matthew Pines worked on the procedures for scenarios like that, and they don't involve drone swarms, especially not at night for weeks on end. And why hover over mayors' houses? Steve Skojec put it humorously:
Containment narrative indeed. First it was the "Iranian mothership" disinfo. That immediately spread like wildfire and everyone was so certain it was the correct answer. Now we've shifted to "the government is searching for adversarial biological or nuclear weapons, but only at nighttime, and only using completely unrecognizable tech that can't be interdicted and produces no heat signature but is lit up like a christmas tree for stealth purposes and oh by the way they come from the ocean and nobody has seen them take off or land and the DoD is lying to us about it without even a cover story and are refusing to cooperate with local law enforcement, elected officials, or the FBI, who are all trying to investigate this because nobody will tell them what's going on." And somehow, THAT is more plausible to people. Meanwhile, every other comment is the buried-ostritch-head snarky theory du jour: "it's just an effing plane, bro"
He also bemoans the number of people who are so sure of themselves, something I also find very annoying.

Graves also talks about some of the "drone" tech, which is similar to some stuff Scottie posted several pages back:
"They're making what appear to be pretty high G turns, maybe like three, four or five G turns at relatively low air speeds, which is indicative of them having a pretty significant power supply. Anytime you turn like that, you're burning energy essentially. So for them to be able to make these high G maneuvers and then remain in the area for another five or six or seven hours and still have the battery life or whatever's propelling them to then go over the ocean to a point where they're untrackable, again, I'm not really familiar with that type of capability either."
As for weirdness, someone mentioned Skinwalker Ranch. There have been a couple reports of commercial drones' batteries draining when attempting to get close to the mystery drones, similar to what happens on the Ranch.
Finally, here's UFO 'veteran reporter' George Knapp, who's still plugging away for local Las Vegas TV, with a good summary report on the situation to date:

Good videos! More below:
That has kinda been my idea from the beginning: the main reason for the drones was to make a lot of noise so the signal was drowned out.
Lue Elizondo provided a similar option: "What we may have here is a confused public. We might have some people reporting true UAP events followed by a Department of Defense response by launching drones to go ahead and try to find these UAPs." He lists several options: foreign adversaries (he doesn't think this one is very likely at all, as he made clear to Coulthart), domestic assets (doesn't think this one is very likely either), UAP (he says some reports include at least one of the five observables, e.g. transmedium, low observability), or mixed (seems to think this is most likely, but doesn't say). Coulthart raised the possibility that this was a rogue element of the state (IC/contractors). Elizondo thought it possible, but pointed out that if so, it would essentially be a coup d'etat.

Here's the interview with Coulthart, who also interviews Ben Hansen. Some good points throughout, e.g. Hansen knows a contractor developing drones for the military that brags that their drones can stay airborne for 2 hours, maybe 4, meanwhile the NJ drones are doing 6-10 hours:


A few more perspectives: Tim Alberino points out the similarity with the Peruvian window-fallers - "extremely advanced but not as anomalous as typical UFO activity." He's considering a similar 3 possibilities: foreign actors, deep state/private aerospace, NHI. Tom DeLonge points out the similarity to encounters from the 60s, i.e. aliens and mimicry. Matthew Pines seems to be leaning in the UFO flap direction. Rep. Nancy Mace is considering NHI as an option. Lester Nare points out that if this is a human operation, it would be very expensive, narrowing down the list of possible suspects. Elizondo made a similar point on NewsNation. Condorman, who works in aerospace, talked to the DOD advisory members of his group, who shared these thoughts:
-General opinion was frustration with DoD response
-NSC keeping drone info very tight
-‘Know’ images exist, incl sat, but not shared on secure networks
-Mixing known craft info with hard-to-track ‘real drones’ is duplicitous
-Hope new admin will shake info loose
Jesse Michels seems to think it's mixed:
Many of the fixed wing drones with red and green lights are (likely?) manmade. Orbs and other UAVs around sensitive nuclear sites and Air Force bases across the United States? That sounds remarkably like the 167 historical cases of on record witnesses (stand up employees of nuclear bases who are BEYOND reproach) documented by Robert Hastings in his great book UFOs and Nukes. These flying objects often shut down our most advanced weaponry (Vandenberg 64’, Malmstrom 67’, Fe Warren 2010 etc). If any true UFOs are here, it would make complete sense that you’d get a mix of human drones alongside them. What’s the prosaic explanation for these non-fixed wing orbs and more exotic looking, impossible to fend off, high electromagnetism “drones” flying with impunity around our sensitive military installations? High powered lasers? Plasma balls? Classified American tech that we’re using to red team or troll our most intensely locked down military sites (and that’s somehow also happening all around the world)?
The number of military bases violated in the past weeks is at least 14.

Cool vid from a livestream showing a light coming in from the direction of the ocean. FAA issues unprecedented number of NOTAMs for NJ.
 
A theory seems to be forming online that these NJ drones are a distraction from 'plasma orb' type UFOs. I guess these orbs could be very advanced tech but still ours, or at least 'borrowed' from 4D STS. Or they could be alien craft, acting with, or partially/completely outside any human agenda. In any case, the PTB wants to confuse the situation. That could explain why the politician class has not been given much of a script to read from other than 'we dunno' - the PTB is fast reacting to something initiated by 4D STS/(STO?) IOW. What do you guys think?

I completely agree. Unlike the 40s-60s when there were massive UFO waves, they released silver balloons to hide the UFO reality, nowadays those balloons are replaced by drones.

A percentage of ordinary drones, a percentage of advanced military drones and a percentage of real UFO activity, a whole salad of apparatus in the sky "to hide celestial events".

Ironically, the United States may be able to identify from which base in the world which type of flying object crosses the Ukrainian borders and its own at all times, but on this occasion "we do not know". They have all the airspace in the world monitored, they show maps of all land, air and sea traffic to identify drones, vehicles, planes, rockets, ships, how many minutes they crossed a border, where they left and where they arrived, what color they were, license plates, what song they listened to from the base of operations, house or hotel room and if they had coffee or tea, but this time, according to them, "We don't know".

Incredible!
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Funny, I was just on Twitter, and read something very similar. It was basically people speculating that the "drones" are man-made, and are chasing/studying the orbs, because they really have no idea what those are. And the "orbs" seem to be more widespread around the world than the drones, which are mostly concentrated in the US. I guess we'll find out! Some drones still seem too weird to be normal tech, but it could be "enhanced" 3D hi-tech drones vs the mysterious orbs. Sorry, but that sounds like a cheesy sci-fi movie title. :lol:
It will become more cheesy-sci-fi movie once the Pentagon will use "mitigation operations" like "non kinetic interruption of signals" to the UAS (Unmanned Aerial Systems) nor UAPs (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena), though. They will come up with some some videos as evidence to calm down the masses, I guess. Assuming that they know how to differentiate them and/or “stage” them
 
I think there are several clues that there is a genuinely anomalous aspect to this, regardless of drones (but more on those below). The government response most closely resembles their response to UFOs. Historically, the U.S. MIC reveals new tech in a similar manner to how the Russians revealed the Oreshnik: they keep it super secret until they reveal it publicly or use it for the first time, e.g. the helicopters they used in the Bin Laden op. Until that point, they keep things under wraps. If they do something with the possibility of public exposure, they have cover stories (e.g. Trinity). But when it comes to UFOs, everything surrounding the subject is so classified that they just end up looking like idiots because they can't make any admissions and their cover stories end up being nonsensical. And that's exactly how they look as a result of their narratives on the NJ drones.

Eric Weinstein wrote:
I believe the U.S. Government knows what the “drones” are and doesn’t wish to clear this up definitively, preferring panic & loss of credibility to disclosure. That is the least crazy thing that could be happening. And that is totally crazy.
They can't clear it up definitively, because if any aspect of this has to do with UFOs, they cannot even hint at this. Officially, AARO investigates UFOs, and the most they will admit is that they have some cases they cannot explain. If they are scrambling fighters or drones to investigate UFOs, they will not admit this publicly. They are limited to saying, "this is not our tech, or adversaries," which is their line on UFOs. But they can't even make the connection to UFOs explicit. In the mass sighting over Texas several years ago, they denied scrambling jets, then had to admit they had jets in the area when investigators got the radar returns. But they would not admit they were trying to track the UFO.

Disclosure Party writes:
Why would the military order emergency shutdowns of their own bases due to operations they themselves are conducting against those same bases? Why would the federal government try to take down their own craft with "drone" counter-measures? How does this make any sense?
Because they cannot admit UFOs violate their bases' airspace with impunity - this has been the case for 80 years. Despite it being public knowledge, they cannot/will not admit this publicly. As a result, it makes them look incompetent, even to the point of authorizing lethal force against their OWN drones, which, if that's what they are, they can't admit are in the air as a response to actual UAP.

Rich Geldreich writes:
If they are running a psyop on us, then it sure is backfiring because they just look stupid right now. Face-plant level stupid.
If it's a psyop, it's the dumbest psyop ever. I think they're just trapped by their own classification rules. They have no choice but to make themselves look like idiots, because the alternative would be some level of disclosure, which is off the table at this moment. They can't even admit they have a counter-UAP strategy - if they have one.

The very use of the word drone (in addition to the possible actual use of military drones) is more of a psyop. Jesse Michels writes:
The idea that everything in the sky right now is being called a “drone” is itself a sort of accidental psy-op. It places an artificial constraint on the conversation. Can anyone come up with a good conventional explanation for these widespread ORB sightings? Is mass hysteria the best we have? Are these just manmade plasma balls unleashed simultaneously all over the world? Genuinely interested in good explanations for these (fixed wing drones notwithstanding)
When everyone is conditioned to see "drones", genuine UFOs will be labeled as drones (and less often, drones will be labeled UFOs).

Steve Skojec points out just how dumb the messaging has been, and provides a good rundown of recent developments:


This was mentioned already, but I'll mention it again. We also have to consider that even some of the drones are genuine UFOs. If it looks like a drone, it's probably a drone, except when it's not. Here's a Project Blue Book report on a case from 1951:


The NIDS guys called it "bidirectional mimicry." They cite the examples of anomalous black helicopters, and triangular craft. UFOs mimic human tech and military SAPs, which confuses identification and really messes with military minds.

Also, if this were ONLY military drones, it doesn't make much sense for them to essentially copy a UFO flap/wave (and make themselves look like total idiots for the entire world in the process). And as Geldrech and Pines have been pointing out repeatedly, this has had all the features of a classic flap (e.g. 1947, 1949-50, 1952).


Finally, I don't think it has been mentioned yet, but there was also a mystery drone flap over Colorado/Nebraska/Kansas in 2019/2020. Some law enforcement from Nebraska contacted Matt Ford to let him know the drones are back.
1. They see drones as large, if not larger, than cars.
2. They think they are of non-human origin.
3. It began accelerating three weeks ago.
4. They feel The White House is lying.
 
A theory seems to be forming online that these NJ drones are a distraction from 'plasma orb' type UFOs. I guess these orbs could be very advanced tech but still ours, or at least 'borrowed' from 4D STS. Or they could be alien craft, acting with, or partially/completely outside any human agenda. In any case, the PTB wants to confuse the situation. That could explain why the politician class has not been given much of a script to read from other than 'we dunno' - the PTB is fast reacting to something initiated by 4D STS/(STO?) IOW. What do you guys think?

I think we all agree that both the government and 4D STS are driven to obscure this topic by introducing confusion deliberately. I've always understood that as an example of something which they both benefit from, that 4D STS uses or manipulates its agents in this density in order to remain in control by remaining mostly unknown.

The question is, if the government has to respond to UFO events in order to make them less identifiable as such, then are they working at cross purposes to the operators of the 'real UFO's'? If that is 4D STS, then how would they be outplayed by such a predictable manoeuvre and not do something to make themselves even more visible? Has something changed to make them want to be more visible, or has something changed to make them more visible against their wishes? Or is this not 4D STS at all? Definitely one for the C's at this point!
 
Graves also talks about some of the "drone" tech, which is similar to some stuff Scottie posted several pages back:
"They're making what appear to be pretty high G turns, maybe like three, four or five G turns at relatively low air speeds, which is indicative of them having a pretty significant power supply. Anytime you turn like that, you're burning energy essentially. So for them to be able to make these high G maneuvers and then remain in the area for another five or six or seven hours and still have the battery life or whatever's propelling them to then go over the ocean to a point where they're untrackable, again, I'm not really familiar with that type of capability either."
The 'angry hornets' sound is what one of the 'normal' drones should sound like. They really do burn a lot of energy and I don't see how they could not get fairly hot if they are prop-driven. If they really can be silent and not give off any heat then that would be some unknown, advanced, impressive tech, which could be ours, just being kept from us citizens.

This whole thing is so bizarre. I almost want to laugh... almost.
 

@GeorgianaOnline

2 hours ago
OMG, David Spade and Dana Carvey have a YouTube channel where they’re talking about UFOs and aliens. My 20-something year old inner self is not worthy!
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This is awesome.
Yes, Spade and Carvey are amateur UFO sleuths now. They are interviewing Dr. Stephen Greer, who says that all of the more exotic sightings are from a 'rogue' deep-state outfit - so ALL the tech is ours. He mentioned that they even have teleportation tech. He also thinks the aliens are not hostile, so it may be wise to take everything he says with a grain of salt. He claims his info is from 'insider sources', what he says could potentially be true or mostly true in this particular instance... Or more dross for confusion, not sure.

 
Also, if this were ONLY military drones, it doesn't make much sense for them to essentially copy a UFO flap/wave (and make themselves look like total idiots for the entire world in the process).
Maybe the "secret world government"-types with access to very advanced technology do not care if the US government looks foolish. It may actually fit their goals as far as deligitimizing democracy to maybe introduce "rule by AI" at some point. The more and more clownish governments in most of the Western world certainly seem to fit this objective as well.
 
Lue Elizondo provided a similar option: "What we may have here is a confused public. We might have some people reporting true UAP events followed by a Department of Defense response by launching drones to go ahead and try to find these UAPs." He lists several options: foreign adversaries (he doesn't think this one is very likely at all, as he made clear to Coulthart), domestic assets (doesn't think this one is very likely either), UAP (he says some reports include at least one of the five observables, e.g. transmedium, low observability), or mixed (seems to think this is most likely, but doesn't say). Coulthart raised the possibility that this was a rogue element of the state (IC/contractors). Elizondo thought it possible, but pointed out that if so, it would essentially be a coup d'etat.

Fascinating interview by Elizondo, he mentions something that caught my eye, because for him government cover up operations are "a bit of a reach" and "potentially more nefarious," which I thought it was odd, because that is what they have been doing for decades, and he should know. But then, maybe if he goes there too hard he may get in trouble.

[...] or it could be something even potentially more nefarious which I've never spoken about publicly because I think it's a bit of a reach, but we used to have a a term called "seeding" and so if we were testing a super sonic aircraft test aircraft we didn't want anybody to know about and it crashed, we would go with a retrieval team try to pick it all up as a government and then in case we missed anything we'd throw a bunch of parts of like a 1984 Cadillac alternator and parts of a Cessna and just make it really confusing so if you picked up something you didn't know exactly what it went to and what it was for.

[...] If you really wanted to confuse Americans what you could do is every time there was a major UAP incident is send up a whole bunch of drones in the area and then people will start recording drones and pictures and say "oh that was a drone that you saw", you could do that, right? part of a denial and deception campaign and it's very much like "seeding," right? you start throwing a bunch of stuff, of trash, in the sky and people start saying "oh that wasn't a UAP, that was a quadcopter" or something to that effect that is also another possibility I think that one's a little bit that's a bit of a stretch um because I would take a huge huge coordinated effort and I think too many people in the know would probably come out and and probably blow the whistle on that if I had to guess.
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Well I'm this old, I can still remember a time when if you mentioned flying saucers you'd be given a wide berth.

The concept of “swamp gas” refers to the alleged phenomenon of methane gas emissions from swamps, marshes, and wetlands, which were often blamed for UFO sightings and other unexplained phenomena in the 1960s and 1970s. Mad Magazine’s use of “It’s a Gas!” as a tongue-in-cheek tribute to this era’s fascination with swamp gas and its supposed connections to extraterrestrial activity.

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