Master Cleanse

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Hi,

After reading about the Master Cleanse and all also the sticky "Fasting, Gluten, MSG, Soy, Blood Type Diet", My girlfriend and I have started the Master Cleanse program. One thing I am not sure about is elimination. In the Master Cleanse book, they advise against doing any enemas or colonics and say that it can even be harmful; however, in the book "How Fasting Heals" they are saying that during a fast one should have 2 enemas daily for the first week and 1 during the next week. The Master Cleanse suggests using a laxative tea and/or salt water drink to help flush out the system, and that we should still be eliminating 2 or 3 times a day.

My girlfriend started a few days ahead, and we are planning to go to get a colonics treatment so as better get a feel for what should be happening should we go the enema route. Since we are on Master Cleanse, is this safe to do? I'm not sure but I think it should be okay according to what I read in the other book.

So my questions are:

When on Master Cleanse, did anyone use the salt water / laxative tea method? How effective was it for you? (seems okay for us, not much comes out though, then again, it is pretty difficult to drink 1 quart of salt water :/)

Anyone perform enema/colonics while on the cleanse?

Anyway, looking for advice from those who have traversed this path before.
 
Hi Kkrush, I have done a 14 day master cleanse and followed the directions using both the salt water flush and the tea. Even at the 14 day mark I was still getting out "stuff", if you want to find a good source of information on this fast I suggest going to the website _www.curezone.com and going to the Master Cleanse support forum (left hand collum). There you will find the answers to your questions.
 
Hi Neon,

Thanks.... I was able to find a wealth of information ~ seems that it is okay to combine both treatments... ;)
 
Completed a 15 day Master Cleanse

All help and details you need are available on the Master Cleanse forum.
http://www.mastercleanser.com/forum/index.php

Salt Water Flush idea:
All who follow the Master Cleanse beyond 14 days know that aversion to saltwater or to even slurping pure water (!) will develop almost surely.

If you are struggling drinking the full quart of salt water, here is my idea:
1. Drink a little water from the 1 quart bottle.
2. Pour water into a 0,2 quart glass, mix it with the 2 leveled teaspoon celtic sea salt.
3. Convince yourself - quieten your mind, exorcise all thoughts about the 'muscle reflex' - that you have to hold on and suffer ONLY FOR FEW SECONDS, while you drink this concentrate. Drink it without pause, not thinking about its taste.
4. Do not let the saltwater touch the back of your tongue! It can trigger the 'giving back to nature' muscle reflex.

This way you can drink the whole amount of saltwater very quickly. Now wash it down with the remaining ~0.7 quart of water, which i found best to drink from a big clean beer glass.
This way the morning SWF becomes much easier. You don't have to draw this process out for hours!
Don't drink the water if you have a retching urge. Breath in clean air deeply and when your stomach calms somewhat, drink again.

Master Cleanse effects observed:
- elimination 2-3 times in the morning (waterworks all day, maybe 5-8 times)
- elimination of solid matter even on the 15th day
- detox symptoms: mild flu & fewer, some disorientation and dizzines, medium limb & belly aches
- hunger for 5-7 days
- dreaming & thinking about wondrous favorite foods prepared masterfully: this stops after 5-7 days
- continuous mood swings of medium strength
- protracted 'Dark Hours of the Soul', almost every day
- Work related rememberings, life issues of past years brought up
- Need for meditation "find the present moment"
- thinking about the soul quest
- questioning automatic habits and thinking about wrong assumptions from before the Cleanse
- Where am i now, what the heck i'm doing with my life?! Soul Quest.

Master Cleanse Benefits observed:
- feeling being reborn
- five senses enhance
- lungs are clean
- pink tongue! :)
- excess fat is lost: 11 kilos in my case during 15-16 days (though this is the least important)
- tongue is beautiful pink
- clean baby poop smell: you know what i mean, like in case of breast-fed babies. Imagine an adult discovering it during the cleanse on the toilet. I thought immediately, 'Rejuvenation is possible'.
- rediscovering the value of Life, thoughts about respecting every living beings
- rediscovering the value of food: thinking about poor starving people
- determination to do the Master Cleanse again, this time longer for 20-25-30 days.
- realization that solid food that i can bite into isn't required at all to survive!!


Master Cleanse experience:

Tried to follow Mr. Steven Stanley Burroughs' instructions to the letter.

Ingredients used:

- yellow lemons *A
- bottled miner water 2 sorts *B
- maple syrup, 2 sorts: from Now Foods and from Belchers Farm *C
- Cayenne pepper 2 sorts *D

*A
are sprayed with poisonous insecticide, which seeps into the fruit through its porous peel. Also this poison gets into the soil, where it gets picked up by the roots of the lemon tree and poisons the tree, fruit, everything. Next time i want to use organic lemons instead. They are however hard to found in my country.

*B
the first sort i researched and found as acceptable by a consumer who seemed expert according his comments, the second contains only 0,3 mg fluoride / liter bottled sort with the lowest amount i could find

*C
After drinking Jim Belchers product i ordered Now Foods Grade B maple syrup. It was a joke. Cost the same, tasted like 'watered up' and as if some ridiculous artificial sweetener was put in it generously. Felt bad. Its effect also was no good. Like trying to run a car on very cheap gas and you observe the car struggle.


Do not use Grade A maple syrup, it is refined version of B and does not contain as many precious minerals as the excellent Grade B!

*D
from England and Mexico. Both were adequate quality.



Coming out of the Cleanse:
Again tried to follow the book. Hand squeezed lots of oranges and grapes (because I’m blood type A and used the Adamo-book knowledge) and cooked a good lentil-carrot-parsley-yellow onion soup with lots of spices: curcuma longa and ginger. Added lots of table salt to it(because the celtic sea salt consumed daily contained iodine only in traces). Every time after beginning soup i swallowed a BIFIDUS FACTOR pill. Belly cramps and upheavals of medium strength followed. On the 4th day i was okay. The first soup was a great experience feeling food flooding the circulatory system, felt very sleepy and had a good night sleep!


Ordered the Master Cleanse Kit. Its box contained Celtic Sea Salt of excellent quality, i already ordered several pounds of it from the manufacturer. It doesn't contain poisonous additives as the commercial table sea salts ferrocyanide. In the Kits box was the famous Smooth Move laxative tea. Performed excellently in the morning (after drinking it at night before going to bed.) Table salt is inadequate for the flush.

Next Time:

I plan to use:

- distilled water
- organic lemons which are not yellow colored
- Grade B maple syrup from Jim Belchers farm
- Celtic Sea Salt
- Cayenne Pepper
- eat raw vegetables 1-2 days before the cleanse
- drink Smooth Move on the night before the first day of MC
- all experience & knowledge gathered from previous cleanse

- maybe some carrot juice & other vitamins for my eye because i work 10-12 hours a day with computer monitors and my eye strained really began to hurt toward the end of 15 days, but this last one is only an idea.
 
fabric said:
When on Master Cleanse, did anyone use the salt water / laxative tea method? How effective was it for you? (seems okay for us, not much comes out though, then again, it is pretty difficult to drink 1 quart of salt water :/ [/size])

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[/size]I have done the Master Cleanse 2 or 3 times, and while I would say that it is not my favourite cleanse, for me the last time I did it, the salt water flush was really essential in the elimination process.
 
kevin2themystic said:
fabric said:
When on Master Cleanse, did anyone use the salt water / laxative tea method? How effective was it for you? (seems okay for us, not much comes out though, then again, it is pretty difficult to drink 1 quart of salt water :/ [/size])

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[/size]I have done the Master Cleanse 2 or 3 times, and while I would say that it is not my favourite cleanse, for me the last time I did it, the salt water flush was really essential in the elimination process.

With all we've learned about diet and nutrition in the last number of years (note the original post here was in 2007) I wouldn't think the Master Cleanse would be beneficial under any circumstances. You are essentially starving yourself but preventing the body from going into beneficial ketosis mode (surviving off fat stores) by keeping blood sugar high by drinking maple syrup. Much of the weight loss experienced on the fast is the auto-cannibalism of lean tissue - not desirable!

For info on beneficial fasting, readers might want to check out the Ketogenic Diet thread, looking for specific references to intermittent fasting and bone broth fasting :)
 
Hi dugdeep,


What you said makes a lot of sense to me. I will check out the thread you posted for some tips on other cleanses and will pay more attention to the date of last post on threads in the future.


Kevin
 
I tried the master cleanse before I knew about carb sensitivity and nightshade allergies. I couldn't figure out why it was nearly killing me! If you have anything even remotely like an arthritic condition, ditch ALL nightshades, grains, carbs and dairy. I can't even have a pinch of paprika without setting off days of aches and pains.
 
dugdeep said:
With all we've learned about diet and nutrition in the last number of years (note the original post here was in 2007) I wouldn't think the Master Cleanse would be beneficial under any circumstances. You are essentially starving yourself but preventing the body from going into beneficial ketosis mode (surviving off fat stores) by keeping blood sugar high by drinking maple syrup. Much of the weight loss experienced on the fast is the auto-cannibalism of lean tissue - not desirable!

For info on beneficial fasting, readers might want to check out the Ketogenic Diet thread, looking for specific references to intermittent fasting and bone broth fasting :)

That was one thing I couldn't understand when I did the master cleanse, I was always hungry (and I lost 10lbs and have never got them back since) and I think it was due to the fact that I was preventing myself from going into ketosis. I assumed that because it was liquid, that would be enough to 'turn off' the hunger pangs (generally if you do a water fast after a few days you don't feel hungry anymore) but I'm thinking that even though it was only liquids, there was enough sugar in the mix that it kept me "hungry". Although, after a week I did feel better but that was probably more from not eating wheat, dairy etc. - still always hungry though.

Anyway, not something I would ever do again - I'm skinny enough as it is :P
 
It is kind of silly when I look back then. During the master cleanse, every day I was watching the "Food channel"! (I had never watched so much of it before in my entire life.) Although I was not physically hungry, I was probably mentally hungry, so I could not resist watching cakes and barbecues on TV - It sounds like a torture, but I was telling myself this was the way of yogi (?!). I still think it helped to the certain point of cleansing the toxin out from the body. But going through the side effects of dizziness and tiredness were painful to bear.
 
Did the Master Cleanse a few years back, lasting over a month.

Hunger eventually dissipated & had no psychological/physical cravings, as far as I remember. I used the salt water flush method alongside, drinking a solution nightly. No enema/colonics. Felt great during. I went back to eating gluten & unsuitable nutrition for the body - bad move, the degeneration was stupendously notable.

What I consider of great import is how any fast is broken.
From experience & information on other fasts/diets, it isn't effective as a healing option.

fabric said:
dugdeep said:
With all we've learned about diet and nutrition in the last number of years (note the original post here was in 2007) I wouldn't think the Master Cleanse would be beneficial under any circumstances. You are essentially starving yourself but preventing the body from going into beneficial ketosis mode (surviving off fat stores) by keeping blood sugar high by drinking maple syrup. Much of the weight loss experienced on the fast is the auto-cannibalism of lean tissue - not desirable!

For info on beneficial fasting, readers might want to check out the Ketogenic Diet thread, looking for specific references to intermittent fasting and bone broth fasting :)

That was one thing I couldn't understand when I did the master cleanse, I was always hungry (and I lost 10lbs and have never got them back since) and I think it was due to the fact that I was preventing myself from going into ketosis. I assumed that because it was liquid, that would be enough to 'turn off' the hunger pangs (generally if you do a water fast after a few days you don't feel hungry anymore) but I'm thinking that even though it was only liquids, there was enough sugar in the mix that it kept me "hungry". Although, after a week I did feel better but that was probably more from not eating wheat, dairy etc. - still always hungry though.

Anyway, not something I would ever do again - I'm skinny enough as it is :P

Yup, I concur with what's written above!
 
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