Merged threads on Illuminati - Hidden Hand - Ruiner

[palestine]

There were a few threads about the "Hidden Hand" that were eventually merged here

Thank you @BlueKiwi

 

[Wandering Star]

@Wandering Star @heinrich @EmeraldR

I would be willing to ask you (and other members as well of course) about the document "Hidden hand":

- Is there a discussion about it? I tried to find something in the transcripts but could not find anything. I may have to look deeper, the question may have been raised about this document

- The guy's explanations are a bit odd to say the least, in the sense that he presents a framework in which there would exist a possibility of harming others, for free, without cosmic accountability. The matter is very red flaggish. Should we consider it?

I hesitate to discard it completely because I know of some "4th D density version of planet earth" (and this person argues about the control of this version of planet earth).

My interest in this doc is caught with the fact that his "story" would be able to account for many bad deeds, out there. It would provide a clear & precise explanation for the phenomenon that which is currently being studied in the last session (a trans national network of ritual sacrifice) - and many other things.

Caution to the interested reader: this doc is the transcript of questions asked to an alleged "bloodline illuminati member", and he is quite in a very STS-like mode of thinking. It's very raw and this person flirts in waters where he explains how he (and his people) "perform a service to the Universe" through "harming others". An idea, "bad is good", is packed into complex justifications. The reading is quite challenging, because there is no gloss. It's shocking and outreagous.

Thank you !

The exchange you mention is interesting in that it's very likely that the top management of some of those working covertly against humanity actually believe what It is said in that exchange on that forum.

They really think they are helping to humanity by creating evil.

Anyway, in another post in another thread you say that you are starting to read The material of Ra (Law of One), so in what Carla channeled you will find many answers and with it you may be able to understand something of what the so-called hidden hand says.

However, much of what he says may be with nefarious intentions so that the searcher (who are the ones who would reach that material) gets lost in the forest.

I hope I have explained myself well.

 

[palestine]

The exchange you mention is interesting in that it's very likely that the top management of some of those working covertly against humanity actually believe what It is said in that exchange on that forum.

They really think they are helping to humanity by creating evil.

Anyway, in another post in another thread you say that you are starting to read The material of Ra (Law of One), so in what Carla channeled you will find many answers and with it you may be able to understand something of what the so-called hidden hand says.

However, much of what he says may be with nefarious intentions so that the searcher (who are the ones who would reach that material) gets lost in the forest.

I hope I have explained myself well.

Yes perfectly!

Thank you much for your message. I came to similar conclusions.

This paper describes a modus operandi (or a state of affairs) with several variables, and those variables are "assigned" (the plan, the bad guys, the good guys, evil, how we consider evil, how the universe functions, who's the exact name of the villain, etc).

I had a look in the thread that @BlueKiwi hinted at: in it, there is another paper ("The Ruiner"): same thing. A declinaison, of this paper, somehow. The variables are present. They are assigned differently.

And then, I bumped into a problem: stacking those two docs, to Fritz Springermeier, and all "Illuminati whistleblowers" documents. The variables remain present, and it's more or less articulated around "trans-generational bloodlines", operating on a big scale, enslaving normal people.

1. After reading the Ruiner, I was initially like: "what to do with this?" "Hmmm the bad guys are The Dracos" "And they control the illuminati bloodlines".
2. Right before, I had in mind that guy's model, "Hidden hand": he explains another framework.

And so on. Each time I would need to reframe this "context" of "the bloodline families". Not practical, confusing at max.

It was too much and I came back to a more simple model.

Ultimately, I reminded me of the Greenbaum speech, which might be a better starting point.

Adding to this: Bringers of Dawn's "raid on the Planet", and C's statement of "the Earth is currently STS"; all together, I believe that it could provide a more accurate model, for the study of those "ritualistic activities".

I thank you for reminding me about Ra. I went back to it, and I read it many times. Never in its entirety. There is so much! I shall have a look at those precise matters.