Mexico buys missiles from the US

mabar

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For what purpose, I wonder? and just after the recently approved New Interior Security Law ...
https://www.sott.net/article/371197-Mexicos-ruling-class-preps-for-mass-uprisings-New-Interior-Security-Law

_http://www.proceso.com.mx/517510/mexico-pretende-compra-inedita-de-misiles-y-torpedos-de-eu said:
-using google traductor
The government of President Donald Trump approved the sale of 23 missiles and six torpedoes to Enrique Peña Nieto and asked the US Congress to endorse the transaction for the war package, with a cost close to 100 million dollars, is sent to our country immediately. According to the US document, which this weekly newspaper had access to, it is the first time that Mexico has sought to acquire this type of weapon. Both governments were sought by Proceso , but no comments were obtained.

WASHINGTON (Proceso) .- In an unusual event in Mexican military history, Donald Trump approved the sale of a war package requested by the government of Enrique Peña Nieto, which includes tactical missiles, missile launchers and torpedoes, among other equipment, for a of almost 100 million dollars.

"Mexico had never bought these systems. Mexico will have no difficulty in absorbing this equipment into its armed forces, the proposed sale of this equipment does not alter the basic military balance in the region, "highlights the official document of the Trump government in which he notifies his Congress of the approval of the sale of military equipment.

On Friday, the State Department sent the Capitol request for certification of the purchase of the military package requested by the Mexican government.

"The State Department made the determination to approve the possible foreign sale of military equipment to Mexico of ground-based missile launchers of the class RGM-84L Harpoon Block II, of Tactical Missiles of the Block II Airframe class, and of Lightweight Torpedoes of the MK class 54 Mod 0; for an estimated cost of 98.4 million dollars ", highlights the document number 17-36, which the Trump government transmitted to the US Congress, as a requirement to carry out the transaction to Mexico.

According to the history and background of the bilateral relationship, and between the Secretariat of National Defense (Sedena) and the Pentagon, it is the first time that the Mexican government asks the United States to sell missiles. Which is corroborated in the same office of the Department of State.

The armament

The official document of the Trump government -of which Proceso has a copy- makes it clear that it was Friday 5 when the Defense Security Cooperation Agency of the Department of State (DSCA) requested the Capitol to certify the sale of the military equipment required by the presidency of Peña Nieto, under the premise that it was already endorsed by the White House.

Fragment of the special report published in Process 2149, already in circulation
 
Re: Mexico buys missiles to the US

mabar said:
For what purpose, I wonder? and just after the recently approved New Interior Security Law ...
https://www.sott.net/article/371197-Mexicos-ruling-class-preps-for-mass-uprisings-New-Interior-Security-Law

_http://www.proceso.com.mx/517510/mexico-pretende-compra-inedita-de-misiles-y-torpedos-de-eu said:
-using google traductor
The government of President Donald Trump approved the sale of 23 missiles and six torpedoes to Enrique Peña Nieto and asked the US Congress to endorse the transaction for the war package, with a cost close to 100 million dollars, is sent to our country immediately. According to the US document, which this weekly newspaper had access to, it is the first time that Mexico has sought to acquire this type of weapon. Both governments were sought by Proceso , but no comments were obtained.

WASHINGTON (Proceso) .- In an unusual event in Mexican military history, Donald Trump approved the sale of a war package requested by the government of Enrique Peña Nieto, which includes tactical missiles, missile launchers and torpedoes, among other equipment, for a of almost 100 million dollars.

"Mexico had never bought these systems. Mexico will have no difficulty in absorbing this equipment into its armed forces, the proposed sale of this equipment does not alter the basic military balance in the region, "highlights the official document of the Trump government in which he notifies his Congress of the approval of the sale of military equipment.

On Friday, the State Department sent the Capitol request for certification of the purchase of the military package requested by the Mexican government.

"The State Department made the determination to approve the possible foreign sale of military equipment to Mexico of ground-based missile launchers of the class RGM-84L Harpoon Block II, of Tactical Missiles of the Block II Airframe class, and of Lightweight Torpedoes of the MK class 54 Mod 0; for an estimated cost of 98.4 million dollars ", highlights the document number 17-36, which the Trump government transmitted to the US Congress, as a requirement to carry out the transaction to Mexico.

According to the history and background of the bilateral relationship, and between the Secretariat of National Defense (Sedena) and the Pentagon, it is the first time that the Mexican government asks the United States to sell missiles. Which is corroborated in the same office of the Department of State.

The armament

The official document of the Trump government -of which Proceso has a copy- makes it clear that it was Friday 5 when the Defense Security Cooperation Agency of the Department of State (DSCA) requested the Capitol to certify the sale of the military equipment required by the presidency of Peña Nieto, under the premise that it was already endorsed by the White House.

Fragment of the special report published in Process 2149, already in circulation

Things are certainly starting to move a lot in Mexico I think mabar. I was also wondering about this recent purchase, first of all it's A LOT of money they are going to use for this, and with the New Law, I dunno, it's sounds pretty scary to me... There was also an article about how military's and federals were "cleaning" the police in Chilpancingo, Guerrero, and now they are taking the power of the streets. Given the fact that Guerrero is one of the States with a lot of violence due to drug cartels, it's a matter of time, IMHO, that things start to escalate more over there.

http://www.sinembargo.mx/05-01-2018/3370287 [article is in Spanish]

This weekend it was also one of the most deadliest in the country, with the upcoming elections also cartels are doing their moves, so I guess it's going to be some interesting months ahead.

https://es.sott.net/article/57446-Primer-fin-de-semana-violento-del-ano-en-Mexico-al-menos-37-ejecutados-en-Guerrero-BCS-Colima-Zacatecas-y-Chihuahua
 
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Marina9 said:
Things are certainly starting to move a lot in Mexico I think mabar. I was also wondering about this recent purchase, first of all it's A LOT of money they are going to use for this, and with the New Law, I dunno, it's sounds pretty scary to me... There was also an article about how military's and federals were "cleaning" the police in Chilpancingo, Guerrero, and now they are taking the power of the streets. Given the fact that Guerrero is one of the States with a lot of violence due to drug cartels, it's a matter of time, IMHO, that things start to escalate more over there.
"Cleaning" ...right! ... they had been cleaning police since I remember, I think the situation is far more worse, the time had already come, and things had been scalating since at least- the "failed" war on drugs... found this article from 2014, it mentions about the incorporation of Mexico to the ONU blue helmets that , a process that was since Fox goverment, and it mentions in a parragraph that Meade (PRI presidential candidate by the way) and Peña Nieto "decided to assume the internal political costs of making such a transcendent decision", is in the scritp, one would say? _http://www.excelsior.com.mx/nacional/2014/09/26/983730

Marina9 said:
This weekend it was also one of the most deadliest in the country, with the upcoming elections also cartels are doing their moves, so I guess it's going to be some interesting months ahead.

https://es.sott.net/article/57446-Primer-fin-de-semana-violento-del-ano-en-Mexico-al-menos-37-ejecutados-en-Guerrero-BCS-Colima-Zacatecas-y-Chihuahua
But as bad as it is, every year seems to be that violence is breaking records with gigant steps, 2017 being the more violent _http://www.sinembargo.mx/24-10-2017/3336289
 
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For any spanish speaking members whom may be interested in the things occuring in Mexico with the upcoming elections I found this analysis absolutely worth it.


Alfredo Jalife is an analyst and of course has been followed by the gov. Im not saying he has the whole truth about it all, but he has things that for me were interesting to hear, and that we wouldn't normally here.

Some of the points that got stuck in my mind about the upcoming elections are the following:

-Meade's career to the elections has been prepared for 20 YEARS!
-Behind Meade's back is BlackRock Capital

Background about BlackRock:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlackRock

BlackRock, Inc. is an American global investment management corporation based in New York City. Founded in 1988, initially as a risk management and fixed income institutional asset manager, BlackRock is the world's largest asset manager with $5.7 trillion in assets under management as of July 2017.[2] BlackRock operates globally with 70 offices in 30 countries and clients in 100 countries.[3] Due to its power and the sheer size and scope of its financial assets and activities, BlackRock has been called the world's largest shadow bank.[4][5]

-6 million millennials are going to vote (or hopefully they will) Which practically leaves the the elections in charge of the youth, so to speak.
-He states that Andres Manuel (AMLO) whom supposedely is from the "left," has Soros's back..
-He also states that it's very likely AMLO will win, but elections might get rigged (which I think they will..) IMHO I don't think they will let AMLO win.

These are just few points he talks about, but it's an almost 2 hour talk about things going on in Mexico, and I think it's worth listening to.
 
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Marina9 said:
For any Spanish speaking members whom may be interested in the things occuring in Mexico with the upcoming elections I found this analysis absolutely worth it.
Thank's Marina, will see it later ...

-He states that Andres Manuel (AMLO) whom supposedely is from the "left," has Soros's back..
-He also states that it's very likely AMLO will win, but elections might get rigged (which I think they will..) IMHO I don't think they will let AMLO win.

Soros behind AMLO, why I am not surprised? ... his repeated speech that he will go against the power mafia sounds too hollow to me ... sometimes I think that they will/are manipulating the numbers to make believe he is winning, so if something happends, it will be more easily to justify whatever they are planing to do for/after the upcoming elections.

Is well known that Morena (AMLO's party) won at the last Estado de Mexico elections and, that it was rigged and, considering his record it was so much suprise to many as to why he did not fight much for it ...

Mainwhile the ones and only ones whom are winning in all this derision is the party-docracy, the National Elections Institute will/had given an abusive huge money they will receive for their campaign expenses!! 6.7 thousand MDP (million of pesos) about 300+ million of dollars ... how wealthy they are!!
 
so far I had listened the video half an hour, it raised my eyebrows when Alfredo Jalife shows off about his findings, but still to 1:30 hour yet to finish it though ...
...this night news I listen something that ... either is for good laughing or crying, media accuses Russia meddling in Mexican elections via RT-John Ackerman, from an article at Washington Post _https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/democracy-post/wp/2018/01/11/a-mexican-presidential-candidate-is-getting-an-unexpected-boost-from-trump-and-putin/
Was tempted to post it here, but is just for laughing or vomiting ...

like this paragraph
_https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/democracy-post/wp/2018/01/11/a-mexican-presidential-candidate-is-getting-an-unexpected-boost-from-trump-and-putin/ said:
But now they have to do it with the disturbing knowledge that their fate is being influenced by not only the politics of their close neighbor to the north but also the digital proximity of the Russian cyber brigade.

Had heard and read Ackerman at RTactualidad, and yes, he seemed to favor AMLO, as other media favors others as well.
 
Yup, Jalife can be a little bit of a show off, but that, IMHO, doesn't take away the importance of the things he is sharing with the people. As i've said before, i don't think he has the absolute truth about it all, but I haven't listened to or read anyone else that has made this type of analysis. And spoken so openly about things, which has lead to his wife been threatened some years ago with a gun on her face, and of course he himself also has been threatened.

I was just reading today that Meade will supposedly sue Animal Político (one of the not so aligned to the establishment media, supposedly) because of "false" information about him on a vast write-up called "Estafa Maestra." (Master Fraud)

http://www.mientrastantoenmexico.mx/meade-amenaza-demandar-animal-politico-reportaje-desvio-recursos/

Meade threatens to sue Animal Político for story about diversion of resources

The story indicates that when Meade was in charge of the Sedesol the agency diverted public resources. However, the team of the now PRI candidate considers that this journalistic work goes beyond freedom of expression.

The PRI's pre-candidate for the presidency of Mexico, Jose Antonio Meade, threatened to file a criminal complaint against the Animal Político news portal for the report on alleged detours in the Ministry of Social Development (Sedesol) when he was head of that agency.

Now not long ago I was talking to my family about how I can see the news in these days being directed to either narcs being "caught" or fights against cartels, or findings about corruption from the candidates, etc,.

Listening to this chat with Jalife yesterday, he has some good points, and mainly the most important one he mentions to try to stop a rigged election is to actually go and vote. Who knows if that will actually make a difference, but we will see.


Mexico, as a big part of the world as we can see, is going to have some bumpy months ahead.. :/

Edit: spelling
 
Marina9 said:
Yup, Jalife can be a little bit of a show off, but that, IMHO, doesn't take away the importance of the things he is sharing with the people. As i've said before, i don't think he has the absolute truth about it all, but I haven't listened to or read anyone else that has made this type of analysis. And spoken so openly about things, which has lead to his wife been threatened some years ago with a gun on her face, and of course he himself also has been threatened.
I continue to listen to him, still 20 minutes left, though and, also saw the other video, it is similar as Ackerman at RT both seem to go along AMLO, I was looking for other references, info from what he said -for example about Black Rock-, and there are a lot ...
_http://www.excelsior.com.mx/nacional/2015/07/30/1037467 Economía, estable: Peña; reunión con BlackRock
_http://www.elfinanciero.com.mx/economia/director-de-blackrock-mexico-llegara-a-pemex.html
_https://www.reporteindigo.com/indigonomics/cuidado-mexico-blackrock-inversion-riesgo-estabilidad-economia-tlcan-reformas/

Considering what things are working in our world with deep states, how things work with the partydocracy in Mexico, how the world is becoming, too much caos in a very short period ... mmm yes as you say, we are going to have a bumbing way ahead ... adding up the freezing climate change ...
 
mabar said:
Marina9 said:
Yup, Jalife can be a little bit of a show off, but that, IMHO, doesn't take away the importance of the things he is sharing with the people. As i've said before, i don't think he has the absolute truth about it all, but I haven't listened to or read anyone else that has made this type of analysis. And spoken so openly about things, which has lead to his wife been threatened some years ago with a gun on her face, and of course he himself also has been threatened.
I continue to listen to him, still 20 minutes left, though and, also saw the other video, it is similar as Ackerman at RT both seem to go along AMLO, I was looking for other references, info from what he said -for example about Black Rock-, and there are a lot ...
_http://www.excelsior.com.mx/nacional/2015/07/30/1037467 Economía, estable: Peña; reunión con BlackRock
_http://www.elfinanciero.com.mx/economia/director-de-blackrock-mexico-llegara-a-pemex.html
_https://www.reporteindigo.com/indigonomics/cuidado-mexico-blackrock-inversion-riesgo-estabilidad-economia-tlcan-reformas/

Considering what things are working in our world with deep states, how things work with the partydocracy in Mexico, how the world is becoming, too much caos in a very short period ... mmm yes as you say, we are going to have a bumbing way ahead ... adding up the freezing climate change ...

Thanks for those links mabar! Yeah well, he doesn't clearly state he supports AMLO but you can get a bit of an idea, if I recall correctly the interviewer asks him something about his vote, and someone commented in the interview that he was clearly supporting AMLO. Im not really sure about it tho. In my case honestly, im really not sure if i will vote for AMLO, of course not Meade, but it's a tricky one :s

We will see how things develop. But meanwhile, daily news is about more feminicides, more battles between cartels, and more of the same political show before the elections.
 
Marina9 said:
Thanks for those links mabar! Yeah well, he doesn't clearly state he supports AMLO but you can get a bit of an idea, if I recall correctly the interviewer asks him something about his vote, and someone commented in the interview that he was clearly supporting AMLO. Im not really sure about it tho. In my case honestly, im really not sure if i will vote for AMLO, of course not Meade, but it's a tricky one :s

We will see how things develop. But meanwhile, daily news is about more feminicides, more battles between cartels, and more of the same political show before the elections.

Your welcome, and there are more and even those against Jalife criticizing his thinking pattern, to which I assume we will see a lot of ping-poing going on not just between candidates ... no, Jalife does not express it directly, and I suppose he would not say openly as with million of people answering back about the secrecy of the vote.
 
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