Black Hawk military helicopter collides into American Airlines flight landing at Reagan Airport in Washington, DC

The way he describes it, it's surprising these things aren't crashing into other aircraft all the time.


Airline pilots flying into Washington, D.C., have reported nearly a dozen near misses that were scarily similar to this week’s midair collision that killed 67 people — the type of close calls that led one aviator to complain that Reagan National Airport was “probably the most dangerous” in the nation.

An Associated Press review of a federal database that catalogs such concerns found scores of reports over the last two decades of near-misses and warnings about congested skies over the nation’s capital, with pilots repeatedly complaining about military helicopters getting too close to passenger jets.

Last May, one of those helicopters passed just 300 feet (91 meters) below a commercial airliner, triggering a cockpit collision avoidance alert and prompting the jet’s pilot to file a report in the Aviation Safety Reporting System, a database maintained by NASA that allows pilots and crew to submit voluntary, anonymous and confidential safety concerns.

“I never saw it,” the jetliner pilot wrote, adding that he “never received a warning” about the helicopter from air traffic controllers.



Such complaints highlighted the tension that has developed between commercial airline pilots unnerved by the helicopters and the military units that have critical national security duties and must maintain flying skills to execute them.

It is not clear if federal authorities were aware of such concerns or took any steps to mitigate the risks. But on Friday, the Federal Aviation Administration paused almost all helicopter flights from operating near the airport, with exceptions for police and emergency response. The president’s helicopter transport, Marine One, is also exempt.

The pause came after an Army Black Hawk helicopter on a nighttime training run collided with an American Airlines jet that was about to land at the airport Wednesday night, plunging both into the dark, cold Potomac River. No one survived.

Investigators are examining whether the helicopter was flying higher than its allowed limit and whether control tower staffing was an issue. A preliminary FAA report noted that one controller was performing duties typically handled by two people at certain times of the day.

In the week before the crash, at least two planes had to abort landings because helicopters got too close. In the days since, some officials have questioned why the military flies so close to the airport.

“I have not yet heard a good reason why military helicopters are doing training exercises in the same airspace as commercial airliners — at night and with peak congestion. I hope these exercises in Reagan airspace will be suspended indefinitely until the investigation is complete,” Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., tweeted.

More than a half dozen military, federal and local agencies operate helicopters in the airspace near Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport, and they need those same air routes to train for and execute their missions, current and former Army pilots said.

The Black Hawk lost in the collision was part of Fort Belvoir’s Virginia’s 12th Aviation Battalion, which “has had some classified, very important missions related to our nation’s worst day,” said Brad Bowman, a Black Hawk pilot who served in 12th Aviation Battalion for two years, referring to 9/11. “You want to have training be as realistic as possible. And that means trying to replicate what you’re actually going to be doing when you conduct your mission.”

In an attack, the unit is tasked with ensuring continuity of government by getting officials to secure locations, which means being able to fly officials from the White House, Pentagon and other locations. After the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, Bowman took part in managing some of those flights, he said.

“Anyone who suggests that we can’t have military helicopters flying in Washington, D.C., doesn’t understand national security and the threats we confront and what is necessary to defend our citizens,” Bowman said.

The unit also ferries high-ranking military and government officials around the region, missions that are flown “every day by multiple aircraft,” said Jonathan Koziol, chief of staff for Army aviation. “The Pentagon’s right there. And we have to go in and pick up Pentagon leaders.”

Wednesday’s crash — and the reports in the federal database — highlighted the unique challenges of flying into Reagan National Airport. It has been described by some as a postage stamp of an airport, with water on three sides and constant congestion along the busy Potomac River corridor.

Though it’s been upgraded with modern terminals and other amenities, the bustling airport is an aviation relic dating to the era before World War II, when all planes had propellers and airstrips were built on small footprints close to downtowns.

The AP’s review of the NASA database found that commercial airline pilots repeatedly lodged concerns about the congested airspace and the risks of helicopters and planes flying in close proximity.

Reagan Airport “is probably the most dangerous airport in the United States,” one pilot wrote in 2015. “The controllers are pushing, pushing, pushing in an attempt to handle the traffic they have.”

Low-level military helicopter traffic in the area “complicates matters,” the pilot said.

In another 2015 incident, a jetliner pilot reported a near-midair collision with a helicopter after being instructed to land on Runway 3-3 instead of Runway 1, the airport’s main north-south landing strip. It was the same type of scenario that preceded Wednesday’s crash.

The co-pilot took the controls and maneuvered the plane “to prevent it from becoming a midair collision,” the pilot wrote, adding that a wider approach to the airport “would have almost definitely ended in the collision of two aircraft.”

After frantically working to avoid a similar collision in 2013, an air traffic controller wrote in the database that “our helicopter operation is an abomination of the picture of safe aircraft movement.”


Such incidents — and repeated warnings about helicopter traffic near the airport — had led pilots and others in the aviation industry to grow complacent about the risks, another pilot wrote in the database.

“What would normally be alarming at any other airport in the country,” the pilot reported, “has become commonplace.”
 
After the Trump administration takes office, in true psychopatholigical thought, burn the whole place down, because we can't have it and as make it as difficult as they can to stop his administration from achieving his goals. In his first administration they resorted to intelligentsia disinformation propaganda. Now they are getting down rightand dirty...Outright terrorism against the US population... Hmmm. Desperate measures require desperate measures...I recall something like that in some political discourse from some political pundit, can't remember who...They all sing from the same hymn sheet.
 
Good breakdown here by aviation YouTuber blancolirio. You can see in his breakdown that it's entirely possible the heli pilot saw the lights from the plane behind flight 5342 which was also descending and planning to land. Pete Hegseth confirmed that the heli pilot was wearing night vision goggles, which makes vision even worse. Still no explanation why the heli rose over a 100 feet when that whole area is at 200 feet max. That might be the biggest indicator of remote controlling. I do wonder if it's possible to switch on the remote control as it's in the air.

But it's clear from this video that the heli was on its designated route aside from the change in altitude. Also, the change in the runway that was supposed to be used by flight 5342 would make planning this in advance pretty difficult. If you planned to remotely crash into the plane, then the guidance would send it on the original path, which was to runway 1. Seems like a very complicated thing to do on the fly.

If it's "mandated" for choppers to remain at 200 feet while they pass the DCA arrivals airspace until they reach the Wilson Bridge, and that "everyone knows" that to be the case, then the helicopter's climb in altitude to 350 feet - smack in the middle of DCA arrivals - is all the more suspicious. To heck with "he may not have been able to see the incoming plane," the Black Hawk shouldn't have been there.
 
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It's curious that they've released bios and family interviews concerning two of the three helicopter crew, leaving people to speculate online that the third is a female pilot, or even a transgender one:
Well, well... they have now stated that the third helicopter crew member was "a woman," but, "unusually," they won't release "her" name.

The 'transgender pilot' rumor is back in play.
 
Note this part:

Last May, one of those helicopters passed just 300 feet (91 meters) below a commercial airliner, triggering a cockpit collision avoidance alert and prompting the jet’s pilot to file a report in the Aviation Safety Reporting System, a database maintained by NASA that allows pilots and crew to submit voluntary, anonymous and confidential safety concerns.

“I never saw it,” the jetliner pilot wrote, adding that he “never received a warning” about the helicopter from air traffic controllers.

So, in the recent incident, even if the Black Hawk had maintained altitude at 200 feet, its course would have taken it under the plane at just 150-200 feet, much closer than last year's near-miss.

That incident from last May is said to have "triggered" the TCAS system, presumably - because it too occurred in DC - at roughly the same altitude because that plane too would have been on "short final" approach to land... but I'm reading here that said system doesn't work once the plane is below 1,000 feet, leaving it fully reliant on DCA's ATC (air traffic control):

The TCAS system can detect air traffic in its vicinity aircraft within a possible collision path of around 45 seconds. In both aircraft the system detects incoming traffic and a “Traffic, Traffic” alert is sounded in the cockpit, with the position of the aircraft displayed on the radar display in the cockpit. Pilots can then alert air traffic control or vice-versa. If the aircraft are within a 25-second likely collision window, the TCAS issues an RA to both pilots. While the TCAS in one aircraft will be instructed to climb or level out, the other will be instructed to descend or level out depending on the situation, until they have crossed each other safely.

However, the RA system will not function if the altitude of the aircraft is less than 1,000 feet from the ground (as the minimum vertical separation threshold can’t be met). In such cases, the pilots are fully reliant on ATC for a resolution.
Elsewhere, it's being reported that the TCAS system does work below 1,000 feet, but that it doesn't send additional 'audio prompts' to pilots as to whether they should ascend/descend or increase/decrease speed because they're already so low to the ground.

Conspicuous by its absence is the lack of any report confirming that a TCAS alert (with or without prompts) occurred in this latest incident.
 
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So, in the recent incident, even if the Black Hawk had maintained altitude at 200 feet, its course would have taken it under the plane at just 150-200 feet, much closer than last year's near-miss.

That incident from last May is said to have "triggered" the TCAS system, presumably - because it too occurred in DC - at roughly the same altitude because that plane too would have been on "short final" approach to land... but I'm reading here that said system doesn't work once the plane is below 1,000 feet, leaving it fully reliant on DCA's ATC (air traffic control):


Elsewhere, it's being reported that the TCAS system does work below 1,000 feet, but that it doesn't send additional 'audio prompts' to pilots as to whether they should ascend/descend or increase/decrease speed because they're already so low to the ground.

Conspicuous by its absence is the lack of any report confirming a TCAS alert (with or without prompts) occurred in this latest incident.

Can it be possible that "training" might include some sort of dare type initiation? Thinking along fighter pilot movie scripts.
 
Elsewhere, it's being reported that the TCAS system does work below 1,000 feet, but that it doesn't send additional 'audio prompts' to pilots as to whether they should ascend/descend or increase/decrease speed because they're already so low to the ground.

That report claims that it functionally doesn't work below 1,000ft, or specifically, below 500ft. Not "additional audio prompts" but any alerts or advisory at all.

If the plane was flying below 500 feet above the ground, the system probably wouldn’t have sent an audio alert or a resolution advisory to pilots, according to system manuals and experts.

“It is very unlikely that the TCAS on the airliner would have provided any alerts to the flight crew,” said Olson of MIT.

Conspicuous by its absence is the lack of any report confirming that a TCAS alert (with or without prompts) occurred in this latest incident.

I doubt that information would be immediately available given the situation. So I don't think it's evidence of anything suspicious.
 
I doubt it. Fighter pilot movie scripts are generally not representative of real life.
I agree, however, how can a pilot become experienced in avoiding near collision situations in real time? Bear in mind a day before a similar situation occurred.

Also, the helicopter flight was a training exercise. Whether collision avoidance training or not, the tower diverted the plane on a runway that required an approach (almost 90deg) which changed piloting variables for both the helicopter and the airplane and neither aircraft was completely aware of the consequences. Actually it made the plane invisible to the helicopter. Also, the comms were on different frequencies so neither aircraft could have the same information in the same time.

So why the helicopter was flying much higher than its expected altitude, and collided from underneath the plane? Misunderstanding or unmitigated planned risk training (film scenario) or external parameter manipulation and control or simple ATC lack of experience under heavy pressure?
 
Some info on TCAS (Traffic Alert and Collision Avoidance System). TCAS interrogates other airplanes transponders, and tracks the other airplane by analyzing the transponders replies and predicts the other airplanes' flight path and position. TCAS operation is independent of ground based ATC.

The system gives two kinds of advisory; an RA (Resolution Advisory) and a TA (Traffic Advisory).

In an RA, it gives commands for the aircraft to maneuver and avoid a collision. The RA maneuver is either flown manually by the pilot (meaning the pilot disengages the autopilot) or automatically flown by the autopilot (in some aircraft). RA only gives vertical commands (climb or descend).

In a TA, it makes a voice callout "TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC". The pilot is supposed to visually sight (look for the conflicting aircraft) and manually maneuver (disengage the autopilot) if necessary to avoid a collision.

In big jets, RA is automatically inhibited below a thousand feet to avoid a "Descend RA" close to the ground. In most big jets, pilots are warned not to follow a "Descend RA" below a thousand feet.

Not sure if the Blackhawk was equipped with a TCAS or not but if the Blackhawk had it's transponder "ON", the Bombardier CRJ700 on short finals may have gotten a TA.
 
Well, well... they have now stated that the third helicopter crew member was "a woman," but, "unusually," they won't release "her" name.

The 'transgender pilot' rumor is back in play.

Definitely in play, sort of - transgender pilot Jo Ellis - who has declared not the pilot of the helo and not dead:

CWO Jo Ellis, a Pilot for the Army National Guard, has posted a Proof of Life video, proving she was not involved in the Blackhawk collision Wednesday at Reagan National Airport.
 
The identity of the pilot flying the Black hawk has been released



Who was Rebecca Lobach? Pilot flying Black Hawk during DC crash identified


Rebecca Lobach was the White House social aide in the administration under former US President Joe Biden





By The Week News Desk Updated: February 02, 2025 11:54 IST





Rebecca M Lobach


The US Army has identified the third soldier who died in a collision between a jet and a helicopter in Washington, DC. The crash killed 67 people.


Identified as Rebecca M Lobach, the pilot was flying the Black Hawk helicopter that collided with an American Airlines flight last week.





The US Army said they decided to reveal the pilot's name after coordinating with the family.


In a statement released by the army, Lobach's family said, "We are devastated by the loss of our beloved Rebecca. She was a bright star in all our lives."


Who was Rebecca Lobach?


Captain Rebecca Lobach enlisted in the service in July 2019 and was assigned to the 12th Aviation Battalion in Fort Belvoir, Virginia. She had more than 450 hours of flight time during her service history.


Hailing from Durham, North Carolina, the Army captain was among the top 20 per cent of Reserve Officers' Training Corps (ROTC) cadets in the US. Lobach was conferred the National Defense Service Medal, the Army Commendation Medal and the Army Service Ribbon. She was also the White House social aide in the previous government.


Lobach's family said she was "a warrior and would not hesitate to defend her country in battle."


The two other soldiers who were killed in the crash were Chief Warrant Officer 2 Andrew Eaves and Staff Sergeant Ryan Austin O'Hara


These articles suggest that the timing of this crash is a little fishy, maybe we just need AI to keep us safe at all times.

DARPA to test autonomous flight capability on Army’s Black Hawk helicopter in 2025

DARPA to test autonomous flight capability on Army’s Black Hawk helicopter in 2025

DARPA to test autonomous flight capability on Army’s Black Hawk helicopter in 2025


Sikorsky has received a contract to integrate its MATRIX autonomy system onto a UH-60M and conduct demonstrations next year.


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MIKAYLA EASLEY


OCTOBER 14, 2024





DEVCOM’s MX Black Hawk aircraft to be equipped with the MATRIX autonomy system. (Sikorsky photo)


The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency has awarded Sikorsky a $6 million contract to integrate an autonomous flight system onto the Army’s UH-60M Black Hawk to experiment with AI-enabled operations, the company announced Monday.


The Lockheed Martin-subsidiary will add its MATRIX autonomy system onto the upgraded helicopter, designated MX, in 2025, allowing the Army’s Combat Capabilities Development Command (DEVCOM) to test and mature a range of autonomous flight capabilities — from solo-pilot ops to fully unmanned flight, according to a press release.


“Autonomy-enabled aircraft will reduce pilot workload, dramatically improve flight safety, and give battle commanders the flexibility to perform complex missions in contested and congested battlespace, day or night in all weather conditions,” Rich Benton, Sikorsky vice president and general manager, said in a statement. “Soldiers will rely on Black Hawk helicopters into the 2070s, and modernizing the aircraft today will pay dividends for decades across Army Aviation’s current and future aircraft.”


As the Army modernizes its aviation fleet under its future vertical lift portfolio, leaders have been keen on integrating autonomy and artificial intelligence where they can. That includes introducing new drones — such as the Future Tactical Unmanned Aircraft System (FTUAS) and smaller “launched effects” — as well as looking at ways manned platforms can carry autonomous flight capabilities.


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Sikorsky’s MATRIX autonomy is the foundation of the companies work on DARPA’s Aircrew Labor In-cockpit Automation system (ALIAS) program, which looks to develop a customizable, removable system that introduces AI-enabled flight into existing aircraft while reducing cognitive loads on pilots. As part of the program, the company demonstrated the first-ever flight of a UH-60A “optionally piloted” Black Hawk without any crew onboard in 2022.


The upgraded MX Black Hawk will be almost exactly like Sikorsky’s UH-60A fly-by-wire Black Hawk. The new contract will enable DEVCOM to experiment and mature applications of autonomous flight and develop concepts of operations around scalable autonomy, according to the company.


“Evaluation will include assessment of different sensor suites to perceive and avoid threats, obstacles and terrain, and develop standards and system specifications interfaced with the MATRIX system and a fly-by-wire flight control system,” per the press release.


Army helicopter involved in fatal crash over the Potomac was not using AI, sources say

Army helicopter involved in fatal crash over the Potomac was not using AI, sources say


Army helicopter involved in fatal crash over the Potomac was not using AI, sources say


In statements, press briefings and one-on-one conversations Thursday, defense officials shed new light on the mid-air collision.


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BRANDI VINCENT


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MIKAYLA EASLEY


JANUARY 30, 2025




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ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA - JANUARY 30: Emergency response units search the crash site of the American Airlines plane on the Potomac River after the plane crashed on approach to Reagan National Airport on January 30, 2025 in Arlington, Virginia. The American Airlines flight from Wichita, Kansas collided with a military helicopter while approaching Ronald Reagan National Airport. (Photo by Kayla Bartkowski/Getty Images)


The Army UH-60M Black Hawk helicopter that fatally collided with an American Airlines passenger plane Wednesday night over the Potomac River was not equipped with experimental autonomous flight capabilities, defense officials familiar with the ongoing federal investigation told DefenseScoop.


There’s said to be no survivors in the aftermath of the tragic crash, which happened around 9:00 p.m. local time on a notoriously highly-congested flight path in the National Capital Region. The Army is closely supporting the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board-led investigation into the incident, officials said.


In statements, press briefings and one-on-one conversations Thursday, several defense officials shed new light on the mid-air collision. Their comments confirm that — despite the Army’s unfolding experimentation with AI and autonomous software — the helicopter involved was not equipped with or deploying any such systems.


“It did not have any AI capability,” Jonathan Koziol, who serves as chief of staff at the Headquarters Department of the Army Aviation Directorate, told DefenseScoop during a media call.


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“With any testing like that — with new systems — it’ll be away from populated areas. Just in case a tragic incident happens, we want to reduce the risk of impacting or hurting anyone else in and around that area, so we definitely wouldn’t be testing that type of equipment in this area,” Koziol said.


He emphasized that the latest trends show that the Army had “greatly reduced accidents over the last year.”


Koziol told reporters that he views this incident as a tragic circumstance where two aircraft tried to “occupy the same space at the same time.”


In separate conversations earlier Thursday, three defense officials speaking to DefenseScoop on the condition of anonymity also noted that this specific Black Hawk mission, known colloquially as a “tech flight”, would not incorporate any experimental AI software.


They suggested that those sort of “gold-top” helicopters, as well as other craft flying in those specific air corridors, would most likely not be employing AI.


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Over the past few years, the Army has been exploring how to integrate autonomy and AI-enabled capabilities across its aviation portfolio as part of a larger effort to modernize its fleet. However, many of those efforts are still in nascent research-and-development phases. The service has focused both on fielding new platforms such as the manned Future Long Range Assault Aircraft (FLRAA), as well as upgrading legacy helicopters with the technology.


The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency is slated to begin experiments this year that would integrate an autonomy system developed by Sikorsky onto an experimental UH-60M “optionally piloted” Black Hawk, designated MX. The modernized version of the aircraft features fly-by-wire controls — a semiautomatic system that replaces an aircraft’s conventional manual flight controls — and serves as a flying testbed.


Under the $6 million contract awarded to the helicopter’s manufacturer Sikorsky in October, the Army’s Combat Capabilities Development Command (DEVCOM) is expected to test and mature applications for a range of autonomous flight capabilities, including fully unmanned operations.


The effort builds upon Sikorsky’s previous autonomous flight research conducted over the last few years under DARPA’s Aircrew Labor In-Cockpit Automation System (ALIAS) program. In 2022, the Lockheed Martin subsidiary first flew the MX Black Hawk without any humans onboard during the Army’s annual Project Convergence experimentation event. The company later demonstrated the aircraft’s ability to be controlled by operators in the cabin or on the ground via a tablet.


Sikorsky did not immediately respond to DefenseScoop’s request for comment regarding the Black Hawk’s autonomous flight capability.


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The investigation continues


On the call Thursday, Koziol told reporters that once the investigation is complete, the government will hopefully have retrieved and gained access to flight recorders that were onboard both aircraft that could provide the “real truth” behind the wreck.


“And as long as the black box is recovered and the information is able to be downloaded, which it normally is, we’ll be able to get the voice communications of all the radios and the crew members talking to each other, along with all of the aircraft information itself — how the engines were running, or speed of the rotors, the altitude of the aircraft — so we should be able to have all of that data for the investigation team to come to a conclusion,” he said.


Among a wide variety of safety concerns now emerging about that D.C. airspace, the collision is also raising questions about how night-vision eyewear could impact military pilots’ flight performance.


“It was a fairly experienced crew that was doing a required annual night evaluation. They did have night-vision goggles,” Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said in a recorded video from his office that aired Thursday morning.


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Briefing the media, Koziol said that in his view, it would be acceptable — and possibly even standard — for the military pilots to not have physically worn the goggles even if they had them on hand.


“It does help the air crew members, but we also have requirements to fly. We call it ‘night unaided,’ where we don’t have aided night-vision goggles helping us fly. I don’t know if they were — we’re speculating now, we’ll leave that to the investigation. But they can easily fly at night without the goggles, especially in this environment with all the bright lights and no lights on the river, they could definitely know where they’re at,” he said.


Wednesday’s fatal collision comes after a spike in aviation accidents and mishaps featuring Army aircraft, as fiscal 2024 saw the service’s highest number of Class A flight mishaps — designated for incidents resulting in fatalities, permanent disabilities or destruction of the aircraft — in 10 years.


According to an Army newsletter published earlier this month, there were 15 Class A flight mishaps over the year, compared to nine recorded in fiscal 2023 and four in fiscal 2022. Only one of those incidents involved a UH-60M Black Hawk, the document stated.


Koziol noted that an Army Aviation Safety Stand-Up initiated in April 2024 allowed the service to reinforce and review both its policies and training protocols. Separately from Wednesday’s accident, the Army is looking to publish additional training material and leader development materials related to aviation safety, he said.


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“This is planned well ahead of that, to show how important safety is for Army aviation and trying to curb that trend that we had last year, which we hope was an anomaly because the previous five years were probably the safest in Army aviation we had in a long time,” Koziol said.


During his confirmation hearing Thursday to serve as President Donald Trump’s secretary of the Army, Daniel Driscoll pledged to focus on aviation safety and prevent any future accidents from occurring again.


“It’s an accident that seems to be preventable. From what we can tell today, that should not happen. I think [there should be] a focus from the top down, on a culture of safety. There are appropriate times to take risk and there are inappropriate times to take risk,” Driscoll told members of the Senate Armed Services Committee. “I don’t know the details around this one, but after doing it, if confirmed, and working with this committee to figure out the facts, I think we might need to look at where is an appropriate time to take training risk. And it may not be near an airport like Reagan.”
 

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