The Living Force
Now, I wouldn't even know where to start trying to verify this, I did a quick google search which wasn't so helpful! I read the Reddit comments and there was another picture posted of the cave map image (1), which very loosely correlates to a UFO sightings map- image (2) and also a bigfoot sightings map- image (3). Quite interesting if it's all correct.Do these images look similar? The top is a map of Missing 411 cases. The bottom is a map of America’s cave systems. Caves seem to play an interesting roll in some of these disappearances. The Mammoth Cave system in particular had caught my interest.
AG Barr launches plan to help missing, murdered Native Americans“It is my honor to sign an executive order … to address a tragedy facing Native American communities—the crisis of missing and murdered American Indians and Alaska natives, in particular women and children. It’s a tremendous problem. It’s been going on for a long time. Many, many decades, beyond that, and we’re going to address it,” Trump said before signing the order.
More than 5,000 Native American women and girls were reported missing in a single year and some are still missing, Trump said. One study showed Native American women are 10 times more likely to be murdered than the average American, he said.
“This should have happened many years ago,” he added.
The Task Force on Missing and Murdered American Indians and Alaska Natives, co-chaired by Secretary of the Interior David Bernhardt and Attorney General William Barr, will do several things, including engaging with tribal communities on the scope of the issue, developing protocols for new and unsolved cases, and establish a team to review cold cases.
Foul play does not appear to be a factor in the disappearance of Michigan mom Adrienne Quintal, whose body was discovered over the weekend after she vanished from her family’s cabin more than two months earlier, according to new reports.
Quintal’s body was discovered Saturday near a dam roughly 300 yards from the Honor, Mich., cabin she vanished from on Oct. 17.
The day Quintal disappeared, the single mom made a desperate call to family members, claiming two men were outside the cabin shooting while she was indoors.
Benzie County Undersheriff Kyle Rosa told local station WPBN Monday that the results of an initial examination of the body seem to indicate otherwise.
“We did not see any evidence of there being another party out there shooting back at her or doing things that were described, I just can’t explain it,” said Rosa. “Not sure what her state of mind was at that time, whether it was a medical event. We do feel that she was there the entire time.”
The exact circumstances of her death remain a mystery. The official cause will be determined by the medical examiner’s office.
Toxicology results, which could help authorities determine how Quintal ended up in the water — or explain her distressed phone call to relatives — are pending, the Detroit Free Press reported.
Police and Quintal’s family have speculated a medical issue might be to blame, according to the report.
Michigan mom Adrienne Quintal found dead near cabin where she disappeared
She had suffered a head injury several months before her disappearance, her sister told the outlet.
Initial responders found multiple bullet holes and casings in the cabin where Quintal was staying, but she was nowhere to be found, reports said.
There was no blood or evidence that anyone had been injured, but her 9mm gun was on the floor, officials said.
She also left behind her personal belongings, including her vehicle, cellphone and purse, authorities said.
Quintal’s family was part of the volunteer search and rescue team to find her on Saturday.
“The search is over,” the family said in a Facebook post that evening. “We have not stopped searching for Ada for the past 9½ weeks. Today we found her. We are heartbroken as the search did not have a positive ending.”
Yes very sad and strange. Further reporting mentions:Here's a strange and sad story of a woman who recently died in mysterious circumstances.
Further it states:HONOR, MI - After nearly 10 weeks of searching by several police agencies, K9 teams and volunteers, Adrienne Quintal’s family used a canoe last weekend and drained a pond in a swampy area to find the missing Southfield woman’s body submerged in about 3 feet of water several hundred yards from her family’s Northern Michigan cabin, where she’d vanished after making a strange phone call to a friend.
That swampy section had been an “area of interest” for K9 teams searching earlier this month, but it had been “almost impossible to reach," police said this week.
It was a surprising end - so unexpectedly close to the spot where she’d disappeared - after such a long, involved search process that had generated much attention.
The search for “Ada” Quintal, 47, made national headlines after authorities released the fact that just before she’d disappeared on Oct. 17, Quintal had phoned a friend in the middle of the night saying she needed police to come to her cabin near Honor, where she’d been in a shoot-out with two men, one of whom she’d shot in the face. But when police arrived to the cabin on Indian Hill Road, they’d found no blood or sign that anyone had been injured. They found bullet holes in the cabin’s windows, but all the shots had been fired from inside, preliminary evidence showed.
The NY Times said the "9mm gun was on the floor" while the Michigan report cites it was found outside. Boots and phone being on the roof is very odd.There was no sign of Quintal. Her 9mm handgun was found on the ground outside. Her boots and cellphone had been thrown on the roof. She’d vanished.
...Authorities had described the ground around the cabin as swampy and nearly impassable in some places, making a search very difficult.
Thermal imaging cameras and drones were used to look for any sign of her. Tracking dogs were brought in, then later cadaver dogs trained to find human remains. A picture of a smiling Quintal - arms upraised and wearing a Mickey Mouse T-shirt - continued to be shared on social media as the days passed and the questions remained. Her family offered a reward for information on her disappearance and kept the public updated with posts on a Facebook page dedicated to the search.
The answer they’d been seeking came Saturday afternoon, when Quintal’s body was found in several feet of water in a beaver pond located a few hundred yards from the family’s cabin along the north branch of the Platte River.
Because that flooded, hard-to-reach spot had been an “area of interest” for K9 teams that had combed the acreage around the cabin on Dec. 7 and Dec. 8, “it was determined that the family would attempt to let some of the water out of the 'beaver pond’ flooding so that the K-9 teams could come back and attempt a thorough search of that area,” Benzie County Sheriff’s officials explained in a Facebook post on Monday.
Quintal’s family and friends were attempting to drain the water and began searching the flooded area with a canoe, police said.
“While conducting this search, a body was found, and the searchers backed out and called Benzie County Sheriff’s Office. It is believed that the body was fully submerged until approximately 12”-14” of water was drained, and this added to the success of finding the body.”
A recovery team made up of sheriff’s officials and the local medical examiner’s office arrived to get the woman’s body so the ME’s office could examine it.
Quintal’s family let their supporters know late Saturday that her body had been found. An autopsy was done on Sunday. “We are confident because of identifying marks such as scars and a tattoo on her right ankle that the body is in fact that of Adrienne Quintal,” sheriff’s officials said.
“Team MibSAR would also like to recognize Chris Moe-Herlick of Alpena County Search and Rescue (ACSAR) for her efforts in organizing a massive K-9 search with dozens of certified searchers from across Michigan and Ohio — the best of the best — on December 7th and 8th. Based on the results of this K-9 search, Chris Moe-Herlick was able to identify a 200-by-300-meter swath of flooded, swampy, muddy, tangled bush for Team MibSAR that needed to be searched, which was where, what are believed to be Ada’s remains, were in fact finally located.”...
There was no sign of Quintal. Her 9mm handgun was found on the ground outside. Her boots and cellphone had been thrown on the roof. She’d vanished.
The result of searching the map for Honor, Benzie County and Indian Hill RoadThe NY Times said the "9mm gun was on the floor" while the Michigan report cites it was found outside. Boots and phone being on the roof is very odd.
Maybe knowledge protects in that you’d avoid certain places such as this, where strange disappearances occur? Even Paulides is at a loss to explain these mysteries, his suggestion is be very well equipped with transponders, satellite phones etc. if you decide to go in the wild. Like you said though, @seek10, I doubt any of those items would help facing otherworldly creatures.I don’t know whether this type of incidents are normal through out human history or increasing due to wave breaching reality boundaries. It is not pleasant experience to read them and the people had no clue what to do one faces them except go on fight or flight mode. If knowledge protects, what type of knowledge protects people to face critters of other world where laws of this world doesn’t protect. Prayer at best?
@Arwenn,Maybe knowledge protects in that you’d avoid certain places such as this, where strange disappearances occur? Even Paulides is at a loss to explain these mysteries, his suggestion is be very well equipped with transponders, satellite phones etc. if you decide to go in the wild. Like you said though, @seek10, I doubt any of those items would help facing otherworldly creatures.
The phone and shoes on the roof make me think of "amateurs",(L) Well, I know it was science fiction, but it always stuck in my mind. If you went together with somebody through some kind of thing where you come apart molecularly and then get reassembled on the other side or something, things could tend to be a little confusing if somebody is not really competent to really handle the hardware.
(Pierre) It's like the Philadelphia Experiment when some of the soldiers remolecularized inside the steel walls of the ship.
(L) Is that part of the time dilation problem?
Q: (L) So if something is aimed at a certain point in spacetime but the planet moves, or something moves, or something doesn't get lined up properly, all kinds of really strange things can happen.
(Joe) Was this portal opened accidentally in this area? It wasn't specifically related to these people?
A: It was a scouting expedition by other dimensional plant based amateurs.
Q: (L) Are you saying plant-based in the sense that these were creatures that were plantiferous or something?
Q: (Data) Why bother going through this difficulty of returning the people instead of keeping them?
A: They were not wanted long term. Amateurs!
Q: (Joe) This portal was opened up specifically to have this effect on these Russian hikers?
Q: (Joe) Accidental, then.
Q: (Joe) So, it's like, "Let's try out our transdimensional portal-opener, and see what happens!"
A: The location was important.
Q: (Joe) And the hikers just happened to be there.
Q: (Pierre) What made the location important?
A: Underground mineral content and structure.
Q: (Joe) So this was a bunch of plant-like creatures who were scouting the planet for minerals for dinner or something... Mining something...
Great talk:Recent interview with David Paulides about Missing 411 Canada.