Moon Landings: Did They Happen or Not?

[Gaby]

Would you guys say that Dark Mission by R. Hoagland & M. Bara is worth the read? I've had it on my Kindle to-read list for a while now and with all this NASA buisness it's calling to me... But I don't want to waste my time since there are a lot of books on the recommended reading list I'm chomping at the bit to get to as well... Thanks in advance

I would choose the recommended reading first. That would give you discernment tools to go through Hoagland et al.

On another note, the news here is that they're back. Here's some quotes from xras.ru which reflects the feeling about this mission on those in the field:

The Artemis 2 mission has been completed. The Orion spacecraft returned to Earth.

The Orion spacecraft, the last tiny speck left from the giant rocket that took off 9 days ago, returned to Earth, bringing back alive the most precious part of its cargo: three men and one woman, who flew around the Moon for the first time after a break of 54 years.

Follow the link below for a 5-minute video of the final stage of the mission (https://xras.ru/info/images/20260411_Orion.mp4 ): capsule flight through the atmosphere, opening of all parachutes and landing. There are many technical details regarding the mechanics of this part of the flight.

Tomorrow is Cosmonautics Day, and no matter what anyone thinks, this is the best gift to humanity for this date. If only because the people who made that historic flight possible for all of us in 1961 dreamed of doing just that — not just circling the planet, but going beyond the Earth: to the Moon, Mars, to the satellites of giant planets, and finally to the stars.

There are two very difficult and eventful years ahead. The lunar landing modules, Starship HLS and Blue Moon, should be ready within a year. [...] [Summary of the years ahead summarized in this post]

NASA's dominance will remain in the early years, but as always happens, as technology evolves and costs decrease, the capabilities of different countries will begin to align. On the horizon of 30-50 years, the Moon will begin to be systematically mastered by mankind. And then even the most outspoken skeptics, who are now using a magnifying glass to study the shadows in the images from the ship in search of traces of forgery, will be able to buy a ticket to the Moon themselves, descend to its surface, look around — and still say: "I don't believe" :)

In general, today the first step was taken before our eyes. Humanity, which broke through into the future 50-60 years ago through the strain and strain of all its strength, today, simply by living these years, has reached a level where technology allows it to become a permanent part of our lives. Thank you to everyone who has worked for this all these years, and to everyone who has made it possible now.

Laboratory of Solar Astronomy (xras.ru ) (Лаборатория солнечной астрономии (XRAS) )

Short video of the landing, and screenshot of the plasma cloud around the capsule:

Splashdown:

Xras.ru summary video here.

 

[Kreu]

Thank you Gaby, I'll do that

 

[FM258]

So, the Cs put this one to bed... 26 years ago?!

Anyway, the questions keep coming, so here's the most recent attempt to get the Cs to say what really happened in them lunar launches:

Session 24 January 2026​

I see both sides of this and can never make up my mind.

My biggest issue is that the greatest achievement in human history doesnt have a holiday. Every year July 20 passes by and this is my thought.

The Gov lies constantly is another reason to tap the breaks on belief. If the Cs are adamant we went, ill go with that but I dont fault anyone for thinking it was all propaganda...remember when Kennedy said this the Russians were ahead of us in the space race. Its plausible that it was staged because they knew they couldnt do it and time was running out.

 

[Brewer]

Here’s a video where the podcaster, Dave McKeegan, discusses how the Apollo Astronauts went through the Van Allen Belts and compares it with what the Artemis II astronauts ventures into the Belts.

Dave does some great work on flat earth but avoids some of the more difficult questions regarding Apollo. He often uses that iconic moon photo in his videos but steers clear of the anomalous imprint that has been brought to his attention. As for the VABs he relies, like we all do on what NASA says, which is probably not altogether true. Remember, NASA had some pretty sketchy characters in the early days, including Kurt Debus, scar faced paperclip Nazi and SS Mann.

He says that getting through the Van Allen Belts is not the impossibility that the hoaxers would have us believe. NASA had actually sent micro-organisms and sensitive equipment to the moon before sending humans.

NASA said, Cs said 30% of all space imagery is faked, I'd imagine a sizeable chunk of the space narrative is fake too. The Soviets sent living creatures as well, including two tortoises and other extremophile organisms with high radio-resistance. They planned to send people but the rockets were proving unreliable, blowing up etc.

Also, NASA and the astronauts were aware of the Van Allen Belts, even though there are those hoaxers who said they were not aware of the Van Allen Belts at that time, and the astronauts gave radiation readings to NASA several times throughout their journey to and from the Moon.

Well, Alan Bean said in an interview that he wasn't sure they went far enough out to go through them. He was the LM pilot for Apollo 12. He should've remembered, he was a trained astronaut, was also in skylab.

So I suppose you can say that the Cs were correct when they said that the Apollo crew were able to go through the Van Allen Belts safely with their trajectory, speed and shielding.

Their answer was rather generic and not exactly true, Apollo 14 went right through, not so dangerous at all it seems.

Someone had sent an email to Dr. Van Allen (which is shown in the video) asking him about the danger of the Van Allen belts and he replied that a person on the space shuttle in the most intense region of the inner belt would receive a lethal dosage after being in it for a week.

Here's what he said

However, the outbound and inbound trajectories of the Apollo spacecraft cut through the outer portions of the inner belt and because of their high speed spent only about 15 minutes in traversing the region and less than 2 hours in traversing the much less penetrating radiation in the outer radiation belt. The resulting radiation exposure for the round trip was less than 1% of a fatal dosage

Apollo 14 went right through the heart of both belts, maybe the space weather was calm at that time.
In 1959, Van Allen's Scientific American article; he said the radiation levels were between 10 and 100 roentgens and that 2 days at 10 will kill you or definitely maim for life. Like anything else in nature the belts would fluctuate and a window might open, or..

Perhaps the Consortium is so happy with Trump et al., that they will allow for the entire Artemis mission to the moon to proceed as scheduled :

Perhaps there's a deal done, assistance provided, some sort of cosmic breakwater or cosmic dredging of a channel to allow safe passage. Who knows? Artemis occurred around a full moon, a time when the moon is enveloped by the Earth's magnetotail, a monthly occurrence that may or may not have assisted the mission. Worth asking some hard questions.