Mouravieff - Ouspensky, Gurdjieff & Fragments

[Laura]

Mouravieff was a fraud. You cannot learn anything from him.
See Patterson's book 'Taking With the Left Hand'.

Pretty sure of yourself, I think. And "authentic Gurdjieff groups" is kind of an oxymoron since Gurdjieff is dead and he already described what would happen after...

 

[clerck de bonk]

Mouravieff was a fraud. You cannot learn anything from him.
See Patterson's book 'Taking With the Left Hand'.

Pretty sure of yourself, I think. And "authentic Gurdjieff groups" is kind of an oxymoron since Gurdjieff is dead and he already described what would happen after...

Weell, his avatar is "peterwise" soo...

 

[anart]

Mouravieff was a fraud. You cannot learn anything from him.
See Patterson's book 'Taking With the Left Hand'.

Peterklok, please read this thread - in its entirety - Imitation Fourth Way Groups Started by Gurdjieff Rejects

There aren't any 'authentic Gurdjieff groups' at this point in time. Anyone who actually understands Gurdjieff's work would understand that - it could be no other way. Mouravieff provided much valuable information, for those with eyes to See. Was it complete, no - is it useful, yes.

You also might want to consider the fact that you do not know what you think you know.