Multiple selves

[whitecoast]

I read somewhere that there are multiple versions of us in densities that are higher up than our own, such as in forth, fifth, or sixth density.

Does this mean that we ourselves are a multiplicity of objects or entities that are in the densities below us? I mean it makes sense in first density since we are composed of many atoms, but what about second density? Or is it that the immense variety of behaviors we exhibit resembles the behavior patterns of multiple animals? Like how we have many I's, whereas a simpler animal may have only two or three, not to mention far far fewer cultural genes (or memes). I recall the brain of the human guthaving the same neutron amount as a cat... Maybe I'm just misinformed.

 

[anart]

I read somewhere that there are multiple versions of us in densities that are higher up than our own, such as in forth, fifth, or sixth density.

"I read somewhere" isn't very helpful. What is the source?

Does this mean that we ourselves are a multiplicity of objects or entities that are in the densities below us? I mean it makes sense in first density since we are composed of many atoms, but what about second density? Or is it that the immense variety of behaviors we exhibit resembles the behavior patterns of multiple animals? Like how we have many I's, whereas a simpler animal may have only two or three, not to mention far far fewer cultural genes (or memes). I recall the brain of the human guthaving the same neutron amount as a cat... Maybe I'm just misinformed.

I can't answer your question for certain, but I think you're wandering around way out in left field. I also think that the base concept in the first sentence is suspect, at least in a practical way.

 

[whitecoast]

Apologies, Anart. I had the mistaken impression that this was common knowledge (why, exactly?) so I felt it wasn't necessary to give a citation.

I think this assumption of mine may have just been something I picked up reading between the lines of The Wave and the C Transcripts. As in, we're all one at 7D, and further down our awareness fragments into discrete units, which falls asleep further with decreasing awareness/free will in lower densities. Notions about variable physicality/shapeshifting, biolocation, and the ability to travel through space/time freely are ascribed to 4D inhabitants (I found it interesting in Secret History that some speculated that Fulcanelli was in fact multiple people), and without more knowledge 4D entities would appear to a 3D person as this or that individual or creature, when in fact they would appear that way in that instance for multifaceted reasons. To me at least, this seemed analogous to how a fish may see large, roaring animals cruising on the surface of a lake, a small piece of food on a near-invisible rope, and big four-armed creatures swimming near the shore, and not realize they could very well be the same animal - namely a human. I think I subconsciously took these ideas and ran with them, wondering if that relationship was common between all densities. Not to mention my own original confusion in asking "are we a multiplicity of lower density entities?" instead of the more precise "to lower densities do we appear as a multiplicity of entities?"

This is all philosophy though, like you said.

 

[obyvatel]

Maybe this is the session you were referring to?

[quote author=C' transcripts Session 10 Dec 1994]
Q: (L) I want to ask again for the benefit of Terry and Jan, what or who were the beings seen by DM in her hypnotic regression the other night? {This session is recounted in the Wave in some detail including direct transcript.}

A: Her essence.

Q: (L) Were these in any way physical beings on the earth we occupy in space/time from where we are at this moment?

A: No.

Q: (L) This happened in a so-called alternate reality?

A: Is still.

Q: (L) So, in some alternate reality, DM is a preying mantis being eating little children?

A: And so are you. And all others.

Q: (L) This is an essence of what?

A: Her being.

Q: (L) Are these aspects of our being coming to earth as part of the realm border crossing?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are all of us going to have to face these aspects of ourselves as other beings?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are there other parts of us in all realms doing other things at this moment?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And how is this going to be affected by the realm border crossing?

A: Will merge.

Q: (L) Do we need to do extensive hypnosis to bring these aspects of ourselves up and deal with these things a little at a time?

A: Will happen involuntarily. Will be like a thermonuclear blast.

[/quote]

 

[little_star_orion]

I am reading Soul retrieval by Sandra Ingerman. I was just wondering if we as human can lose a piece of our soul, than we as human being can also be a part that is lost, from a "bigger soul". Then we are actually the piece of the soul that got lost. And we are on our search back to where we came from before we got lost.

I remembered the part of the cassiopeans that Obyvatel mentioned. It sounds nice. That all different parts will merge. Is this equivalent to that all lost parts will come togehter/will come home and we will be whole again?


Sandra

 

[anart]

Apologies, Anart. I had the mistaken impression that this was common knowledge (why, exactly?) so I felt it wasn't necessary to give a citation.

Citations are always helpful, lest we get lost in flights of fancy.

I think this assumption of mine may have just been something I picked up reading between the lines of The Wave and the C Transcripts. As in, we're all one at 7D, and further down our awareness fragments into discrete units, which falls asleep further with decreasing awareness/free will in lower densities. Notions about variable physicality/shapeshifting, biolocation, and the ability to travel through space/time freely are ascribed to 4D inhabitants (I found it interesting in Secret History that some speculated that Fulcanelli was in fact multiple people), and without more knowledge 4D entities would appear to a 3D person as this or that individual or creature, when in fact they would appear that way in that instance for multifaceted reasons. To me at least, this seemed analogous to how a fish may see large, roaring animals cruising on the surface of a lake, a small piece of food on a near-invisible rope, and big four-armed creatures swimming near the shore, and not realize they could very well be the same animal - namely a human. I think I subconsciously took these ideas and ran with them, wondering if that relationship was common between all densities. Not to mention my own original confusion in asking "are we a multiplicity of lower density entities?" instead of the more precise "to lower densities do we appear as a multiplicity of entities?"

This is all philosophy though, like you said.

I think it's really important to remember that while true existence lies outside of time, where anything and all things are possible, our current existence is in the 'here and now'. Of course, at a higher level, everything is 'one' - but our current consciousness is not at that higher level, and we are exactly where we are for a very specific reason. It's not only where we 'fit', it's where our lessons are. So, in a very real way, it doesn't really matter if we have multiple selves in different dimensions - what matters is who we are now and what we see. I really can't stress this enough. It is escapist to dwell in thoughts of how all of this is illusion, even if all of this is illusion. We are here and one of the biggest issues with the newage movement is that they work so hard on being anywhere other than here. The C's have also said that if a person is advanced enough they can have simultaneous incarnations - of course the key is 'advanced enough' and advancement only comes from learning simple and karmic understandings and that requires that one realize where they are, who they are and why they're there - which - again brings us back to here.

 

[Mrs. Peel]

I am reading Soul retrieval by Sandra Ingerman. I was just wondering if we as human can lose a piece of our soul, than we as human being can also be a part that is lost, from a "bigger soul". Then we are actually the piece of the soul that got lost. And we are on our search back to where we came from before we got lost.

I remembered the part of the cassiopeans that Obyvatel mentioned. It sounds nice. That all different parts will merge. Is this equivalent to that all lost parts will come togehter/will come home and we will be whole again?


Sandra

Well, first off, as you may know, not all humans have souls, matter of fact, some of us have only soul potential. What you are descriging sounds like some of the New Age philosophies. I would say your "bigger soul" is 7th density, and yes, the rest of us have come from there, incarnating through the densities learning our lessons, to ultimately merge with 7th density again.

 

[whitecoast]

Thanks for bringing up that C Session, obyvatel- it also brings up the ideas suggestive of multiple selves I wanted to clarify.

[quote author=Anart] here.... here.... here .[/quote]

Yup. You've hit the nail with the bazooka. TBQH I think this "flight of fancy" isn't entirely unrelated to the potatoes I was constrained by circumstances to eat the night before last. I swear high carb intake seems to objectively alter my personality/thought patterns for awhile.

Anyway, back to reading Detoxification and Healing! Thanks again for your input.

 

[Chickenmales]

I just finished a book called "the 'unknown' reality" by Jane Roberts. In it a 'energy personality essence' talks about how we have different probable selves which exist in paralell, and reincarnational/counterpart selves (he reakons the concepts of reincarnation as they exist are to narrow) as well. He also says that conciousness forms gesalts and that we are a gesalt of conciousness and we are also a part of a gesalt of conciousness (but we're still individuals of course).

Seth says that the reason for this is that the soul is so large and has so much potential that a single life-time in a single space-time could not contain it, as well as a single life-time in many space-times, or many life-times in a single space-time. And of course 'space and time are illusions.'

 

[kitty125]

Well, first off, as you may know, not all humans have souls, matter of fact, some of us have only soul potential. What you are descriging sounds like some of the New Age philosophies. I would say your "bigger soul" is 7th density, and yes, the rest of us have come from there, incarnating through the densities learning our lessons, to ultimately merge with 7th density again.

this was a bit mindblowing for me.are there any transcripts from the C's about this subject?i find it very interesting and would like to know more.especially about only having potential. im still going through chapters of the wave series and havent come across this yet,though i have read about the densities.i kind of feel like a 1st grader in a room full of high schoolers because im struggling to grasp some of the concepts and discussions. im trying to keep up though.can scratch out scientist on my list of possible careers

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[obyvatel]

Well, first off, as you may know, not all humans have souls, matter of fact, some of us have only soul potential. What you are descriging sounds like some of the New Age philosophies. I would say your "bigger soul" is 7th density, and yes, the rest of us have come from there, incarnating through the densities learning our lessons, to ultimately merge with 7th density again.

this was a bit mindblowing for me.are there any transcripts from the C's about this subject?

Here is one.

 

[kitty125]

Awsome! thank you. between this and the C's hitlist 7 that was posted recently on SOTT, ive decided to start meditating again to find myself.i seemed to have lost it along my way somehow. the more information i can gather and comprehend,the better chance i have at reaching my goal.im very happy i found these sites,everyone is so informative and friendly :D

 

[SeekinTruth]

kitty125, you might want to look into the EE breathing and meditation program. It's amazing and many of us have had great benefits from practicing it. You can get more information at http://eiriu-eolas.org/ and make sure to pay attention for the contraindications in case you have to skip the Beatha part (BA-HA / bioenergetic/round breathing).