My own experience with a psychopath - love wins out but it's been hell.

[Maia]

Mariama, Wow, your post gave me a lot to think about.

I couldn't imagine a child not loving their mother but I can't imagine a mother telling a child to go back and redraw something. that was cruel and I'm sorry for your inner child that was hurt. That took a lot of guts to tell us about that incident.

I don't know what else to say except your short and sweet post gave me a lot to mull over.

Thank you and we all need to treasure each and every drawing our children, grandchildren make for you never know if it will be their last one.

 

[Maia]

Stellaria_graminea

Really good post. Yes, I believe some vessels (human bodies) are now possessed not with a human soul but with something perhaps and I say perhaps with a alien or nonhuman entity.

I don't know the whole of it nor will I pretend I'm all knowing. I basically was born deaf, dumb and blind, literally - congenital cataracts, cleft palate and a severe high frequency hearing loss that surgery or hearing aids can't fix. (The other two things were fixed).

To compensate for this, I think my "sixth sense" kicked in.

See two movies, "They Live" and "Orphan".

The movie, "Orphan" is a very simple, clear cut case of a psychopath. Also see Drew Barrymore in "Poison Ivy".

Another good movie is "The Invasion of the Body Snatchers" (the original one not the remakes). Minus the cheesy pods, this movie shows a covert invasion. Warfare of the future with an advance civilization will not entail big clunky machines running around amok.

It will be a quiet, covert assimilation.

Takes longer, but is much more effective.

A slave that never realizes he/she is enslaved will never rebel.

A prisoner that is imprisoned but does not realize they are imprisoned will never try to escape.

Sometimes, not always but usually if I really concentrate enough I can see a person's aura.

Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. don't have one. Any one else out there that can see auras? If so, watch a video tape of the Bushes and tell me if you see an aura because I've concentrated on them and sure the hell could never see one.

In fact, many of the politicians and people on TV, the news, the movie stars and politicians don't have one that I can see.

Regular people shown on the news do.

Again, I'm not claiming to be madame see it all. I admit I'm very limited. But just bringing what I see and feel to the table. The more information to pick apart we all have the better.

And yes, as each year passes I believe there are more psychopaths. The movie, "Orphan" is a really good example of a classic psychopath. And again, I think woman in order to survive in a male dominate world for so long have had to develop survival techniques, one of which is covert manipulation.

I had three sons. Than I had a grand daughter. One night, Lexie was about 5 or 6. We were sitting there watching a movie together, the whole family. I don't even remember the movie, but I do remember Lexie saying, "Grandma, did you see the look she gave him!" Now normally for most of you women out there that is no big deal but my husband said that remark really shocked him because he at 60+ didn't realize or notice "that look" and when he reran the movie, yes our 5-6 year old grand daughter caught something that I also caught but none of the males sitting in the same room, watching the same movie caught.

Women have had to "catch it" faster, sooner and know how to handle and manipulate. Those that didn't, didn't survive, thrive and produce off spring.

I would be so bold as to now say there are more psychopaths than one would ever imagine, particularly among women. But not limited to.

Truly you must judge each person by their actions irregardless of their gender now more than ever.

The book, "Political Ponerology" by Andrew M. Lobaczewski and with the forward written by Laura is quite a book. If anyone doubts your post hand them this book and open it to page 85. Reading this book is a must. I haven't gotten through the whole book and it was (to me) rather expensive but worth every penny. Maybe today I will curl up and finish it.

Again, Political Ponerology is one book that should be in everybody's library. Another book I have bought and haven't gotten to yet but looks along this line is Laura's "Almost Human" The Wave Book 7 by Laura Knight-Jadczyk.

I've been procrastinating reading this because of my own painful situation but maybe reading these two books will give me more knowledge and as we all know, "knowledge protects, ignorance endangers." - LKJ

 

[seekr]

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The C's stated in the above session that "24% of Americans were psychopaths". Now this does not "make it so", as we don't believe (take as fact) what they say, but rather use it as a guide to research more. I think Hare or Lobaczewski said, that 6% of world population was psychopaths, but I also think his research was done in the 40's and 50's (??). Also he said that 12% were their minions or something to that effect. And Hare stated that 1 in 10 psychos were female (correct me if I'm wrong).

If the above figures are even close to real, that would translate roughly to a horrifying realization, that 72% of US population are Psychos or their minions.

5 out 20 people you meet are psychopathic and another 10 out 20 will act like one.

1 in 50 US women are psychos and another 2 in 50 will act as such.

These numbers are just the ones that are "naturally" this way and does not include the ones that have been taught to be this way through culture (or lack there of). And yes, I agree that, US culture has done a number on women in the last couple of generations.

Granted there is no proof of these numbers but I think anyone who is empathetic should be very cautious when it comes to relationships. NEVER ignore the "red flags" in the beginning.

 

[Stellaria_graminea]

Yes, I believe some vessels (human bodies) are now possessed not with a human soul but with something perhaps and I say perhaps with a alien or nonhuman entity.

Me too. At some occasions I know there have been something else present inside two of my psychopathic relatives. Then both their eyes and their "feel" are different. (Thus, I am reading about the "organic portals" with great interest.)

To be female is a better cover than to be a male, maybe, for a psychopath. I think "being female" is just in the exterior, there's something else inside. Something that's the totally opposite of caring and nurturing, something turned upside down compared to what a real, normal female should be.

I have a large family, many different kinds of personalities, many ways to cope with the psychopaths and the rest of reality. There's a lot to learn from them. Especially when comparing with good research.

Cathy Ames in "East of Eden" (Steinbeck) is another example of a probable female psychopath in the literature.

 

[Teresa]

I have psychopathic females in my family, and they have never been caught in anything by the law. They're not in the statistics. Maybe the male psychopaths are just more easily detected, known about.

Not splitting hairs here nor diminishing what anyone says but I don't think that many women are truly psychopathic.

Some authors says one percent, some says a bit less. Others says the males are more easily detected, and that the number of psychopathic females are more uncertain.
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It's really hidden! When it, rarely, happened that anyone get suspicious, the person that caught a glimpse of what was really going on was told it was plain hysterical to think negatively of these females.

The psychopaths in my family are smart and cooperate, and could easily hide an attack as an accident. Easy for them, as they preferred to attack small children, for example when one of the parents of the child said things they didn't like. Definitely not nice people, and I don't like to have relatives like that. Still, it's much worse to pretend that they do not exist or are "kind inside" or "born kind, but damaged by society". Not these females, but some of their victims are.

(I am a female myself, and I do not think that females are worse than men - rather better to hide, more manipulative. Also, I think I wouldn't believe what I have seen if I didn't experience it. So, I had to see it.)

I agree with your assessment of female psychopaths. I think they are more covert and harder to detect than the males.

I also have experience with a female who, while I'm not sure she's a psychopath, definitely has hints of a character disorder. When I suggested to someone that she was being manipulative in order to get back at someone, they thought I was crazy. So now I just keep my mouth shut and my contact with her to an absolute minimum. We do have some mutual friends, but possibly not for long since I seem to be excluded from a lot of group activities.

 

[Gwenllian]

Not to drive the point home, but I just wanted to insert this quote from The Narcissistic Family by the Pressman Family:

"
Therapist: What is she feeling , Margo?
Margo: Sad.
Therapist: Is that all?
Margo: Sad... and mad. Angry. Full of rage. She hates those bastards. They upset him so much. They don't deserve a sweet little boy like Teddy. I hate them. He loves them, so he gets hurt. He needs to learn. To stop caring. (Crying hard and rocking herself in her chair) I hurt for him... and for me. I did care, but they f-ed it up. I had to take care of Teddy, but I was only a child. I couldn't do it right. He needed parents... I needed parents. There was no one there to take care of us. No one.
"

I am not sure whether Margo suffered from false power, thinking that if she stopped caring she could protect herself.
But children can hate deeply and thoroughly. Hate is also a sign of powerlessness and helplessness, according to Alice Miller.

IMHO I think it is of the utmost importance to acknowledge hate and fantasies of revenge in a child. Acknowledge all their feelings. Because I think their feelings can save them in later life, if they are entitled to them.
I am sometimes wondering whether infants and toddlers or aware young people could be seduced and taken in by psychopaths. I wouldn't think so. But I could be wrong.

 

[Arwenn]

Ahhhhhhhhh, break up the family unit, break up the sacred love of a man and woman and pit them against each other, make it fashionable to have a princess complex or a he man/brute complex and you've got your drone servants by the neck. Add in to the mix a pressuring society where you have to work 2 jobs to make ends meet, you are exhausted and probably drink or take some antidepressant to "calm down" in addition to a fast food diet, chemtrails, fluoride in the water, HAARP, or some other kind of waves that disrupt "normal thinking" and you're really talking "disturbing the force."

Remember that phase, and to me it's one of the most true, "United we stand, divided we fall." That phase alone speaks volumes.

In order to conquer your enemy or to claim power over others, you must first destroy their center of unity..................with Homosapiens,, that sacred center is the family.

The 50m question is who is really at the very top of the pyramid, really calling the shots? Myself, no, I don't think their 100% Homosapien.

To really over come your enemy or conquer a people, you first must find their center most strength and crush it. Eat them from the inside out, quietly, they won't even know what hit them.

Hollywood has been the single biggest culprit with their subliminal messages that secretly destroy the family unit. Hollywood is nothing but a PR for TPTB and promote and glorify being STS vs. STO.

I was browsing through this section of the forum, & I really feel for you Water-bearer,& thank you for sharing. This was posted some time back, & I am wondering how things are for you now. I really think you have hit the nail on the head with what you said above- attack the family unit, have both parents needing to work, institutionalize the kids early, have the youth dumbed down, HAARP people to numb down & so there is likely no resistance to the evil TPTB can manifest.

I have also just witnessed the most acrimonious divorce between my brother & his ex, over property & custody. The toll its taken in mu family, my mother especially, & also his daughter, just can't be espressed. It's so true- the only winners are the lawyers, & the level of justice given is commensurate with how much one is willing to pay. I'm almost tempted to tell my kids not to have kids of their own.