My unweighted choice and glitches in the matrix

mada85

The Cosmic Force
I would like to share a curious cluster of small but possibly significant events that have happened to me recently. But first, I need to give you the background story.

As some of you may know, I was away from the forum for several weeks. This was really a passive-aggressive response to receiving my FOTCM membership, on which my grade was given as Listener. My self importance was immediately provoked. How could Laura, or the Church Elders, not see what a magnificent, spiritual being I really am? How could they not assign to me the high grade that I truly deserve? I was fuming! However, I thought about this and began to realise that, in fact, the grade of Listener is absolutely correct for me. Following this realisation I decided to be just a Listener. I would read the forum, I would read articles and books, I would lead a normal life, and I would treat our work here as another interest in my life and not try to make it my main focus of life in a self-important way as I had previously done.

So, this continued for a couple of months. I watched films and drama on DVD, I went out at the weekends and had a 'good time'. In short, I did what 'normal' people do. I also did a lot of drawing, and from that I learned something really important. I have had a certain kind of impatience all my life, a trait which derives from my father (possibly my mother too, but I think mainly my father). As a child, I never was given the permission to do or learn things at my own pace. Although the parent may think they are helping the child by showing them how to do things, in reality this does not help as the child develops programs such as lack of confidence and impatience with themselves. As a result a strong program in me was the desire to do things immediately so as not to keep Father waiting, a program which gets projected onto others whenever I'm carrying out some activity for them, e.g. in my job. However, I found that I wanted to draw really slowly, sometimes taking several days, a week, or more, to complete one piece. And this finally began to break down this impatience program, and help me to see its origins.

As I worked on my drawings, and lived my 'normal' life, I began to see that even though drawing is creative, it is actually a rather selfish form of creativity, in that, unless one is capable of creating truly objective art, one's work is just mechanical, however beautiful it may be. At first this thought was just a whisper in my mind, but slowly it grew louder and I could not ignore it. I began to seriously compare my 'selfish' creativity with the unselfish creativity demonstrated by Laura and the members of the forum here.

And then one day, I found myself with a choice. The choice was: do I align myself with Service to Others or Service to Self? This choice had no weight attached to it. I saw clearly that there was no divine judgement attached to continuing down the road of a 'normal' life, of watching films, being 'creative', and being entertained and having a 'good time'. Equally, there was no divine judgement attached to serving others, to participating on the forum, to working on my self or helping others, as far as I am able to, to work on their self. Understanding all this and making the choice happened more or less simultaneously, with the result that I chose to align myself with the creative side of the universe, to participate on the forum, and to work on my self, although in a way I had never really stopped working on my self. I resumed pipe breathing and POTS daily, and the full EE program twice weekly. I also gave myself permission to proceed at my own pace, which I think is actually rather slow, hence I have added Gurdjieff's quote about slowness to my signature.

Since I made the choice, some curious changes and glitches have appeared in my life, mostly to do with electrical equipment. Some I have initiated myself, others have been outside my control.

I bought a new computer, to replace my old machine which was ten years old and on its last legs. I also bought a new printer/scanner combination unit. I had some teething problems with the computer as it's 64-bit and rather temperamental where 32-bit software is concerned! A few days later the computer and printer were replaced in the office at work and internet access was restored; fortunately I managed to avoid having a wireless device installed.

My credit card was cloned, I don't know where or how; fortunately the bank's security system picked up something unusual and blocked a large purchase by parties unknown. A replacement card was issued.

The remote control for the central locking on my car failed. I replaced the battery with the same result; the garage think it may have lost its code and needs to be re-synchronised with the car's system.

My sauna blanket, which I resumed using after a break of a few months, developed a fault. A wire in the inner layer burnt a hole right through to the outer layer while I was using it. I was most fortunate in that having purchased the blanket less than a year ago, it was replaced in a couple of days.

All these little incidents have appeared in my life after I made the choice described above, and I can't help but think that the two are related. I know that others here have had similar experiences to a greater degree and would be very grateful for any insights offered.

Thank you for reading.
 
Endymion said:
As some of you may know, I was away from the forum for several weeks. This was really a passive-aggressive response to receiving my FOTCM membership, on which my grade was given as Listener. My self importance was immediately provoked. How could Laura, or the Church Elders, not see what a magnificent, spiritual being I really am? How could they not assign to me the high grade that I truly deserve? I was fuming! However, I thought about this and began to realise that, in fact, the grade of Listener is absolutely correct for me. Following this realisation I decided to be just a Listener. I would read the forum, I would read articles and books, I would lead a normal life, and I would treat our work here as another interest in my life and not try to make it my main focus of life in a self-important way as I had previously done.

Hello fellow listener :D

Well your self importance really did take a knock did it not. Ive been in a similar situation to you , tumbling as i fell to hell so i thought at the time , unlike you though , I do , and did not think of myself as a spiritual person. I mean whats that anyway hey?

I Just try to make the right choices , DO and so on , that did not change , i´ve always tried to live my life that way going back a long time in my life. , long before the days of the internet.

Only in those days and up to finding Lauras work back in the very late 90s I had no knowledge of how to carry out the commandment , or at least the good advice of "Know thyself"

I knew nothing of the real deep programs that have to be worked upon and which were running and many still are and how to work upon them.

So when I tumbled and fell and felt let down , all self pity of course , feeling oh so sorry for myself it was a difficult time for me. How i was able to come to terms with it , to accept it is that I knew the people within this group elders , Laura and so on are in no way out to hurt anybody intentionally , our self importance does that for us.

And I have been one enormous self important Ass all my life , hypocrite , higher than thou , etc etc.

Unlike you I did not equate my perceived fall to saying" ok now i will go and have a Normal life , I mean what is that?

There is no normal life in the way that you mean it here. As far as i am concerned , I cant live it , it does not , and has never existed for me as I know it does not for others here and also for you.

If one trusts Laura then that´s all there is to it really.

Really !

I am actually very pleased to be a listener , I would at some point like to be able to get to a point where i could teach EE in a official capacity , to link up the project i am working on at present with the FOTCM in some way but that may never happen , let us see.

As far as Electrical things and strangeness in your life at present I have no thoughts upon it.
Anyways Good to hear your back from out of your self important self to continue onwards.

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Good to see you got it ... beng a great listener leads to good learning habits And I don't just mean ppl ;)
 
It was interesting to read your post Endymion. Don't have anything constructive to say at the moment, but your post gave me some food for thought, thanks! :thup:
 
Celebrate your continued awareness Endymion.

Morpheus

The machines have gathered an army and as I speak, that army is drawing nearer to our home. Believe me when I say we have a difficult time ahead of us. But if we are to be prepared for it, we must first shed our fear of it. I stand here, before you now, truthfully unafraid. Why? Because I believe something you do not? No, I stand here without fear because I remember. I remember that I am here not because of the path that lies before me but because of the path that lies behind me.

You take the blue pill, the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.
What is real? How do you define real? If you're talking about what you can hear, what you can smell, taste and feel, then real is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain.
The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system, and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.
Neo, sooner or later you're going to realize, just as I did, that there's a difference between knowing the path and walking the path.
I'm trying to free your mind, Neo. But I can only show you the door. You're the one that has to walk through it.
Welcome to the desert... of the real.
What if when you woke up, you didn't know the difference between the dream world, and the real world?
 

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Endymion said:
My sauna blanket, which I resumed using after a break of a few months, developed a fault. A wire in the inner layer burnt a hole right through to the outer layer while I was using it. I was most fortunate in that having purchased the blanket less than a year ago, it was replaced in a couple of days.

All these little incidents have appeared in my life after I made the choice described above, and I can't help but think that the two are related. I know that others here have had similar experiences to a greater degree and would be very grateful for any insights offered.

I was one who suffered a similar fate with my sauna blanket, and posted about this in a thread in the FotCM section about recent 'attacks', one of several peculiar experiences. For me, the timimng came after watching Martha Stone's u-tube videos, and deciding to attend the Nexus conference. I tend to agree with you that 'the two are related'. That is my offering from the perspective of an 'impatient Listener'! :D
 
Hi Endymion :) I've got to say that your thoughts on the selfishness of artwork has aroused a number of abiding concerns within me also. Not particularly the notion of artwork being selfish per se, but rather the writing of poetry in my case. When I first joined the forum in 2006 I submitted a number of poems in a very egotistical way, I was so out to impress.

I would now like to thank Atreides for cutting me down to size verrrry subtly! It's taken quite some time for that one to register, I must admit. Whilst I have questioned the nature, or content, of the poetry, as most of it is pretty self-absorbed stuff it was also the manner in which I presented them, in a manic posting session just a day after joining the forum, and I had the shakes whilst doing so, which I now interpret as a subtle sign that my motivations were....shaky! :lol: So in effect, the universe does indeed move in mysterious ways, so electronic anomalies connected to moods and thoughts I find to be highly credible as a theory!

A lot of the work was written in a very short space of time just a year before, when I was really down in the dumps, coming to terms with believing in a romantic destiny that had no basis in reality; a genuine narcissistic wound and bubble, which in actual fact I only discovered for real last night, watching a film with my Mother. I now realise that I've been carrying this wound since leaving secondary school, and with it a huge amount of regret over an unrequited attraction, and frustration over a programmed predisposition for shyness stemming from low self esteem. Ahh, the shattering of illusions!!!

I now consider a lot of art to be personal therapy, be it drawing, painting, music or writing, so perhaps you may find it easier to create with that in mind. It's a tricky one, because truly objective art may well be the preserve of the great masters, though everyone has to start somewhere...
 
Endymion said:
Thank you for reading.

Thank you for posting :) I think I've just recently glimpsed the predator within, and also glimpsed just how huge this work really is, how much work there is to be done on myself, especially in the area of self importance. Thanks for the reminder to slow down. Your observations on your own impatience reminds me to look at my impatience also. I just got the image of an onion being peeled...there's a real person in there under all these programs I know it! :) ...very apt too, as there may very well be pain and tears.

Thanks again
 
Endymion said:
And then one day, I found myself with a choice. The choice was: do I align myself with Service to Others or Service to Self? This choice had no weight attached to it. I saw clearly that there was no divine judgement attached to continuing down the road of a 'normal' life, of watching films, being 'creative', and being entertained and having a 'good time'. Equally, there was no divine judgement attached to serving others, to participating on the forum, to working on my self or helping others, as far as I am able to, to work on their self. Understanding all this and making the choice happened more or less simultaneously, with the result that I chose to align myself with the creative side of the universe, to participate on the forum, and to work on my self, although in a way I had never really stopped working on my self. I resumed pipe breathing and POTS daily, and the full EE program twice weekly. I also gave myself permission to proceed at my own pace, which I think is actually rather slow, hence I have added Gurdjieff's quote about slowness to my signature.

The battle is through each of us, and that's one of the values of art, I think--listening to yourself--and then sharing it to help the world. I'm still working on objective art. Still really confused. But I think that external consideration, that is grounding content in objective reality, that reaffirms truths that many can relate to is key. It relates to people directly and helps them. And what are those truths? It could be political events, societal problems, babies crying--whatever it is that reflects how that universe sees itself. Maybe it can reference myth and archetype such as the Symbolists did. But it should also involve a mathematical precision (or deviation) embodying the laws and design structure of the universe. This is where knowledge comes in as it relates to understanding--as all the centers are working correctly and producing a substance through sexual energy expressing itself through the higher emotional and mental centers--rather than trying to get something. And I find myself lacking here.

Skipling said:
Hi Endymion I've got to say that your thoughts on the selfishness of artwork has aroused a number of abiding concerns within me also. Not particularly the notion of artwork being selfish per se, but rather the writing of poetry in my case. When I first joined the forum in 2006 I submitted a number of poems in a very egotistical way, I was so out to impress.

I'm still out to impress--but I remember your post I think--I really felt empathy for you because I could relate--though I also identified with your post.
 
Out to Impress? So am I, but in a far lesser way these days, because I can "feel" it in my mind when I become aware of it. It's like an eel in the circuits. It's a tricky one. Emerging and realising that the written work was largely good hard effort, but there was this delusional element that is liberating to deal with and face, but causes numerous emotions from annoyance and frustration in retrospect, because it's so damn embarassing. I have quite literally been a deluded fool all my adult life, for many reasons. :shock:

I've also avoided painting recently, which I do enjoy, out of sheer laziness. This thread restores my faith in the whole creative process. With the kind of material we have at our disposal here, and man we are so lucky, how can any of us struggle for inspiration? Through art we can at least to attempt to illustrate not only how we see the world, but how we see. And even explore what we discover within; a great challenge that one I reckon.

And time's a wastin'...

With things like pens and brushes it is still so easy to just jam, as musicians do. Sometimes they make for happy accidents too. I think I'll take my own hints on this one.
 
Was reading through the first post and "card was cloned" caught my attention.
Mine was also cloned and the transaction was caught by my bank. It happened on April 13th.
Additionally, that card was signed up for Paypal donation monthly subscription. I entertained the idea that my card was "targeted" because of that.

But then I forgot all about it and went about the business of transferring my subscriptions to a different card.
Now, to avoid that scenario again, I have a separate card for point-of-sale transactions (using the card physically) and another for online transactions, and still another just for items billed monthly (utilities, donations, phone, internet, etc).


Just wanted to document that since I thought that it might be "more than coincidence". Anyway, on with the rest of the post...

I must admit that I myself went through the "miffed" phase upon receiving my card and seeing "Listener" on it. Well, that's "self-importance" at work for you. Well, for me too. :-) It really is a hard thing to practice humility.

I always "hit myself on the head" with one particular memory to remind me to be humble.
In the past, I was a know-it-all. I felt myself superior to others because of the tons of stuff that I read and the trivial items I know that most of my friends do not. And then one day, my better half told me that, "don't you think that the more you know, the more you realize that the more stuff you don't know?" And that shut me up. It was like I was suddenly drenched in a cold shower.
I realized that pride would get me nowhere. Fast. Humility is like having an empty cup and being open to learning more. Pride was thinking that you already know it all and you can learn nothing more.

So after a while, I was comfortable with being a "Listener". The title suited me since I hadn't participated on the forum much. Nor have I really done anything concrete. I had nothing to show for myself. But the problem is, I let the inertia build up. I continued to do nothing and "just listen". I know that I should start doing something. Hopefully, admitting this on the forum in writing is a step in that direction.


As a side-note, I wanted to share this thought I had a few days ago. I was thinking about the "Judas" character in the Matrix, the one who betrayed Morpheus' gang and wanted to go back to sleep in the Matrix. Then after some thought I came to the conclusion that most people would fancy themselves to become Neo, but really, they just choose to go back to sleep. For most, the choice is not conscious.
Well, imho, I think a "conscious choice" takes much effort and "choosing" to sleep requires no effort. Not being conscious of ones self is all that is needed to be asleep.
I feel like I'm just starting to get onto the cusp of that half-asleep, half-awake state but then I find myself wanting to get back into a deep slumber between the sheets because it is so warm and comfortable.
Turning up the heat in the house should do the trick of getting myself out of bed in the mornings a lot easier. ;D
 
Skipling said:
Out to Impress? So am I, but in a far lesser way these days, because I can "feel" it in my mind when I become aware of it. It's like an eel in the circuits. It's a tricky one. Emerging and realising that the written work was largely good hard effort, but there was this delusional element that is liberating to deal with and face, but causes numerous emotions from annoyance and frustration in retrospect, because it's so damn embarrassing.
And also I would just like to add that the real self, or more authentic I's have little confidence because they have been told so many times that they are wrong. That the true self is bad. And there are many harmful programs relating to this.
For instance--I used to have the artists disease, largely an unbalanced use of sexual energy in the emotional center. However, people liked my work and I was greatly encouraged. This was for two reasons:
1) Many people are subjective and wish to be conned into what is good art and what isn't rather than. Being good doesn't really matter.
2) Moreover the need to impress, and gained approval allows people a control vector by which they can feel empowered by subjective art , and this translates all the way to political and financial manipulations.
When I was largely cured of the artists disease I no longer was willing to engage in this game, and I found that many people weren't really interested in objective truths. In fact, I would go so far as to say that many people thought I lost my talent--including teachers. And that hurts and it certainly isn't inspiring. Maybe I should post about this in the swamp. At any rate you are right, its time to reclaim the creative heritage of humanity based on knowledge of being in society--it is a great thing to do.
 
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