Mysterious "ball" hit the towers?

Niall

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Perceval said:
Laura said:
Ark is looking at it and says there are a couple of frames where he can see wings... more later when he has finished checking it out. But, like Perceval says, if they can insert a plane they can insert a ball. But I didn't like realizing that they had changed the video by removing the background. Didn't realize that had been done.

I'm not sure about that claim either. It looked to me like the two shots were not from the same camera at the same time. Sure, he could line up the towers, but one of the shots (the one without the background) definitely seemed to be from a higher angle. From a higher angle there would be no background and I suspect that that one was a zoomed in on the towers.

I don't think the angle difference between the two is big enough to account for the view of the Hudson and beyond being in the background of one of the videos, and a 'bluescreen' being in the others.
 

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Well now, that's very peculiar. I never really noticed that before. It certainly does NOT look like a plane.
 

Niall

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This youtube vid explains that there are two versions of that video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j9jWYd0HdQ&feature=related

The poster of the above vid wrote:

This is two versions of the same footage. The one that looks like a plane has been compressed, colored, and digitally altered to look like a plane. It is obviously the same footage because the camera veers to the left identically as the plane strikes the building on both versions. How can we explain this?

Let's just keep in mind that it could have been edited after the fact to make it look like a missile.

And then there's this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3DvUrqO4D0&feature=related

Space-based weapons??
 

seek10

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Kniall said:
And then there's this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3DvUrqO4D0&feature=related

Space-based weapons??

another video on the UFO . some thing fishy about this video is the video from the helicopter, some object going very fast but with some trail of smoke. If extraterristrial , smoke may not be necessarily be necessary, unless it is deliberately allowed to spew some smoke or remnants of WTC dust itself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwgPRnol5yg
 

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seek10 said:
Kniall said:
And then there's this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3DvUrqO4D0&feature=related

Space-based weapons??

another video on the UFO . some thing fishy about this video is the video from the helicopter, some object going very fast but with some trail of smoke. If extraterristrial , smoke may not be necessarily be necessary, unless it is deliberately allowed to spew some smoke or remnants of WTC dust itself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwgPRnol5yg

Seek10, I'm pretty sure that video predates 911.

Added: Pre 9-11 WTC UFO clean English
 

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Kniall said:
And then there's this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3DvUrqO4D0&feature=related

Space-based weapons??

I seem to remember the Cs being asked about this video, but can't find the transcript. Anyone remember where it was?
 

c.a.

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Insight from Pilots For Truth Forum. Opening dialog from there site. There interpretation of the dynamics of the planes ability's in pull off a maneuver to drop from the sky and the possible repercussions with the g-forces associated, that would make the maneuver vitally impossible without the destruction of the planes befor supposed impact.

Pilots for 9/11 Truth is an organization of aviation professionals and pilots throughout the globe who have gathered together for one purpose. We are committed to seeking the truth surrounding the events of the 11th of September 2001. Our main focus concentrates on the four flights, maneuvers performed and the reported pilots. We do not offer theory or point blame at this point in time. However, we are focused on determining the truth of that fateful day based on solid data and facts -- since 9/11/2001 is the catalyst for many of the events shaping our world today -- and the United States Government doesn't seem to be very forthcoming with answers or facts.

We stand with the numerous other growing organizations of Firefighters, Medical Professionals, Lawyers, Scholars, Scientists, Architects and Engineers, Veterans, Religious and Political Leaders, along side family members of the victims -- family members of soldiers who have made the ultimate sacrifice -- including the many Ground Zero workers who are now ill or have passed away, when we ask for a true, new independent investigation into the events of 9/11. We do not accept the 9/11 Commission Report and/or "hypothesis" as a satisfactory explanation for the sacrifice every American has made and continues to make -- some more than others.

Thank you for taking the time to inform yourself.
http://pilotsfor911truth.org
 

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From session 011013 :)

Q: (L) We watched one film that showed a strange,
dark object, shooting down towards the ground. What
was that?
A: 4th Density energy surge.
Q: (L) Where was it surging from and to?
A: Dome of destruction energy time lock to ground.
Q: (L) Are you saying that there was a dome of a time
lock over this area? Do you mean that they put a
"time lock" over this area so that they could "harvest"
bodies or energy?
A: Close.
Q: (BT) Was there any other purpose besides harvest?
A: Gathering records, gold, soul extraction, he said.
Q: (L) What does "he said" mean?
A: Journeyman.
Q: (L) Who or what is a "journeyman?"
A: Informant.
Q: (L) So there is a "journeyman" who is the informant
from whom you obtained the information regarding the
question?
A: 4th Density STO observer.
 

anart

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Vulcan59 said:
From session 011013 :)

That's the session that came to mind for me as well, but I don't think they are referring to the same thing we see in this video - since the object the asked about was shooting toward the ground. (added - I think the 'space based weapons' link Kniall pointed out is what was asked about in this session- could be off on that, though...)
 

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seek10 said:
another video on the UFO . some thing fishy about this video is the video from the helicopter, some object going very fast but with some trail of smoke. If extraterristrial , smoke may not be necessarily be necessary, unless it is deliberately allowed to spew some smoke or remnants of WTC dust itself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwgPRnol5yg

I think this last video was discussed elsewhere in the forum and identified as a sci-fi channel mock video for promotional purposes. To me, it feels too Hollywood-esque (dramatic, with a near-miss) to be genuine. I also think that the movement of the camera catching the UFO as it shoots upwards is way too good to be true. Either the cameraman caught that by accident or he's got supernatural reflexes.

The other videos (the ball and 'missile') have got me intrigued.
 

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For some context, here's a sample of what the terrestrial partners in the consortium were capable of in 1991:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uD757B15jo&feature=related

[fast-forward to 3'15"]
 

c.a.

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Another angle of the ball, moving behind the Empire State building...befor impact of tower two........... :huh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEQb4-lz2Uk
 

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And then there's this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3DvUrqO4D0&feature=related

Space-based weapons??

The same video slowed down frame by frame:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5DcXJmNysw&feature=related

It's trajectory is entirely separate from whatever hit the tower because it comes in at a steeper angle from above the tower after the impact.
 

seek10

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Kniall said:
seek10 said:
Kniall said:
And then there's this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3DvUrqO4D0&feature=related

Space-based weapons??

another video on the UFO . some thing fishy about this video is the video from the helicopter, some object going very fast but with some trail of smoke. If extraterristrial , smoke may not be necessarily be necessary, unless it is deliberately allowed to spew some smoke or remnants of WTC dust itself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwgPRnol5yg

Seek10, I'm pretty sure that video predates 911.

Added: Pre 9-11 WTC UFO clean English
right, this is not the right one.
 

NewOrleans

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This is one of those "events" that seems orchestrated both in our physical reality and also hyperdimensionally. Ever since the Zuppruder film of the Kennedy assasination film footage has accidently opened up more questions than they answer. We see what we think we see. But they provide us with disparities that are not easily explained away. Nagging doubt is the symptom of someone who is skeptical and wide awake. And the 9/11 tragedy is monumental in the American psyche. There have been so many commissions and conspiracy theories that perhaps there will never be an easily explainable answer.
Here's one hypothesis: the planes were holograms. The real impact may have been completely different. It may seem impossible for the ordinary civilian to conceive that such a fraud could work, but American Black Ops has a million things up its sleeve, no doubt. From weather manipulation to manufactured catastrophies. It is possible to project something in broad daylight that has all the optical reality of a real thing. Especially if it's dramatic.

The several days before Hurricane Katrina we had seen what, at first, looked like a gigantic silver UFO in broad daylight - a cloudless clear afternoon- above a busy city intersection. No one else seemed to look up. Something felt physically malevolent about it, and yet at the same time, it didn't seem to "occupy" airspace like a plane or blimp. Then it disappeared. It seemed to be a demonstration of hyperdimensional uncloaking. One has to ask: who benefits by disaster?

I have the nagging feeling that the 9/11 planes, which even experienced pilots say would be impossible for amateur hyjacker/pilots to fly into buildings, actually happened quite differently than it appeared. In the end it's a "rabbit hole" like some, if not most, Conspiracy Theories - not that I think it's a bad thing to question official sources -but when you climb into the "rabbit hole" it just goes deeper and deeper with no conclusive answers, just more questions. Truth and coincidences, though they may even be accurate, appear stranger than fiction.
Just thinking outloud....
 
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