new beginnings - overcoming pettiness

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is anyone out there good with astrology?

it seems as if yesterday i had a break through of understanding after months of attacks thrown at me. Ive experienced some really mean things from people over the last few months with no valid explanation. it's like the "let's mess with liv's chi police" woke up and made a vow to destroy me and what little peace i had in my life. it's like these events were forcing me to maybe be mature or the bigger person. i've never endured pettiness and narcissism at these levels before. i attempted to turn to the stars for an explanation, because i couldn't find any other valid explanation for the string of events that has been happening. Unfortunately im struggling with understanding these concepts and really commend those who understand it because it seems to take a lot of patience to understand everything thats happening up there and how it affects us down here.
 
I think explanations on why things happen in a certain way are not as important as using whatever is on your plate right now to do the Work. Look at the beliefs or programs that come up for you. See if there is anything on the emotional level that needs to be healed or some emotional charges that need to be processed through.

Challenges are a natural part of life - they enable us to grow and evolve.
 
Hi Liv. Sorry to hear you have been suffering but as axj posted, it might help to see these trials as opportunities for growth and knowledge rather than matters that require explaining away via exterior means. Perhaps you should take a look at the cognitive science section and any threads relating to narcissism. Here's as good a place to start as any:

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,6174.msg42446.html#msg42446

Like the symptomatic disease it is, it’s gone viral of late and most of us are experiencing the effects within and without on a daily basis, so you are not alone. You don’t go into specifics so perhaps you should post in more detail as much to expel these feelings of attack and gain some valuable mirroring feedback. You may find you are playing a role as well as the perpetrators and that you can learn to protect yourself to a degree from such experiences in the future via self work.

I would also suggest that astrology is unlikely to be of much use to you. The form we receive it in today is highly corrupted disinfo and it’s become a shadow of its original inspiration, riddled with pseudo science and wishful thinking. I do not doubt that there are a few, such as Laura, who can intuit valuable insight via this medium but it is more their own connectedness to a higher resonance than the fakery of tables and text books that gives them this gift. Original astrology (that is the mythic form of it before Ptolemy finished off the job of dismantling that the Greek thought-police had been at for centuries) was most likely based on an ancient well of symbolic, archetypal knowledge concerning our total state of being in this density which was reflected and laid out as a memory and contemplation system in the actual constellations/stars above, with next to nothing to do with 'personal' issues. So you would most likely waste your valuable time and disappear down a blinding alley pursuing that path; the answers lie within you - in conscious research and knowledge and in networking here on this forum.

Good luck! :)
 
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Hi Liv. Sorry to hear you have been suffering but as axj posted, it might help to see these trials as opportunities for growth and knowledge rather than matters that require explaining away via exterior means. Perhaps you should take a look at the cognitive science section and any threads relating to narcissism. Here's as good a place to start as any:

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,6174.msg42446.html#msg42446

Like the symptomatic disease it is, it’s gone viral of late and most of us are experiencing the effects within and without on a daily basis, so you are not alone. You don’t go into specifics so perhaps you should post in more detail as much to expel these feelings of attack and gain some valuable mirroring feedback. You may find you are playing a role as well as the perpetrators and that you can learn to protect yourself to a degree from such experiences in the future via self work.

I would also suggest that astrology is unlikely to be of much use to you. The form we receive it in today is highly corrupted disinfo and it’s become a shadow of its original inspiration, riddled with pseudo science and wishful thinking. I do not doubt that there are a few, such as Laura, who can intuit valuable insight via this medium but it is more their own connectedness to a higher resonance than the fakery of tables and text books that gives them this gift. Original astrology (that is the mythic form of it before Ptolemy finished off the job of dismantling that the Greek thought-police had been at for centuries) was most likely based on an ancient well of symbolic, archetypal knowledge concerning our total state of being in this density which was reflected and laid out as a memory and contemplation system in the actual constellations/stars above, with next to nothing to do with 'personal' issues. So you would most likely waste your valuable time and disappear down a blinding alley pursuing that path; the answers lie within you - in conscious research and knowledge and in networking here on this forum.

Good luck! :)
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I totally agree. I'm, sorry you are having a hard time at the moment. This is when the network can be super helpful in seeing the unseen from your point of view. If you wish to expand on your current issues I think the best chance you have of understanding what is going on would be to share them here so we can reflect on them together.
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LIV said:
it seems as if yesterday i had a break through of understanding after months of attacks thrown at me. Ive experienced some really mean things from people over the last few months with no valid explanation.
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Hi LIV
I'm glad you've had a breakthrough.

Things on the planet have been accelerating rapidly, so that may be a good place to look if you want to know 'why'.
For example, the weather around the planet from the last month.

http://www.sott.net/article/297499-SOTT-Earth-Changes-Summary-May-2015-Extreme-Weather-and-Planetary-Upheaval
Winter in the northern hemisphere officially ended in March, and yet May 2015 saw heavy snowfalls in parts of Norway, Russia, China and the US. Europe recorded its highest ever (official) May and June temperature - 44°C in Spain - during a brief heatwave, before the mercury plunged to as low as 8°C the following week. Like much of Siberia, northern China went from warm, dry weather - including sandstorms and wildfires - in April, to blizzards by the end of May, while spring snowfall and cold temperature records were broken in Russia.

There were at least four major tornado outbreaks in the US last month, generating some 460 tornado reports. Will the US break its 2011 record for highest number of tornadoes in one year? With the storms came hail, rain, and snow - lots of it. Texas was inundated with record-breaking rainfall that bought its 3-year-long drought to a chaotic end. There were also destructive tornadoes in New Zealand, Mexico, and Germany, which saw two tornado outbreaks.

California's record-breaking drought continues, but Los Angeles saw its daily rainfall record smashed in May. Other parts of the US under water were Louisiana, Oklahoma and Alaska, which saw its 'worst flooding in decades', in part due to yet another bizarre spring heatwave. An 'apocalyptic' storm in Moscow flooded streets, while hailstorms turned streets into rivers of ice in Spain, Mexico, and Turkey, where cars were washed away in the coastal city of Izmir. Several huge sinkholes opened up - in the US, Turkey, the Canary Islands and Russia - swallowing gardens, street intersections, golf greens, and cars.

Another deadly earthquake - officially considered an aftershock - rocked Nepal on May 12th, just three weeks after the country was flattened by its worst seismic event in 80 years. Wolf Volcano in the Galapagos erupted for the first time in decades, followed a couple of days later by an explosive eruption of Mount Shindake in southern Japan. Next up was a magnitude 8.5 earthquake off the Japanese coast, the country's strongest since that magnitude 9.0 earthquake in March 2011.

Some are asking 'when, if ever, will the climate change'? Our answer to that is: open your eyes; it's changing NOW!

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Wars and rumors of wars. Increased violence, disease, and general madness.

If you've not had a chance to look into the human cosmic connection, this may be of help
SOTT Talk Radio show #70: Earth changes in an electric universe: Is climate change really man-made?

Short version is, this is global and effecting everyone. The task then is navigating it as best we can, and helping each other through it, together. :)
 
LIV said:
Unfortunately im struggling with understanding these concepts and really commend those who understand it because it seems to take a lot of patience to understand everything thats happening up there and how it affects us down here.
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What specific problems do you have?
Share your problem, first, be easier for you, second, perhaps someone has a solution for your problem, the third, maybe someone has it all went over and can give you advice.

By the number of posts, you can take out your problems in a swamp, if it's so easy. :)
 
If you like, LIV, you could write about it in the swamp as suggested or ask questions what you didn't understand I think there are many forum members who would be eager to help to give you further directions as it already happened in this very topic. I also think books - knowledge in general - may be of greater help than stars alone. But it is great that you had a breakthrough.
 
you guys are like the best !!


but just some of the things i have encountered is:
1. my neighbor calling the police on me several times about trees and grass, who i had a rather good relationship with. The police finally had to let him know that the items he was complaining about was actually on my property and that seemed to really get the steam going with the pettiness

the other neighbors actually gathered in a huddle to tell the police on me as if i did something wrong. they tried to present video tape of me to police and now they are borderline stalking me smh crazy all 4 neighbors smh the police actually came to my house to apologize about my neighbors behavior

2.my moms car was totalled and i had to chase down the tow truck that destroyed it as he tried to run and attack me
3.my car was stolen and now dealing with a shady collision shop recommended by the police smh
4.the transmission on my other car went out shortly before that happened, meaning 3 cars down in a matter of a few weeks smh
5.security has been retaliating against me at work along with LR and other management (they are writing me up for things that i did not do, forcing me to move my car everyday out of parking spots, telling other managers to report me if they see me doing something wrong, i'm being lied on and manipulated and blamed for things i had nothing to do with, etc etc. and every lawyer i call seems to be in a really bad mood as soon as they hear my voice
6.i have not had a full check in months as they are not paying me for time worked, so im in a SERIOUS financial bind
7. my son is having seizures and the doctors are fighting with me telling me that he isn't
8. my friend tried to drag me into a physical fight with her neighbors and keeps competing with me but acting like she isn't and that everyone is jealous of her
9. my other long time friend is becoming possesive and jealous because i wont date him ????
10. i cant get any personal space ..everyone comes with some excuse to why they need me and then gets extremely upset when i say i need time to myself
11. my son keeps exaggerating information just to be right and i cant seem to get through to him about saying things that arent true just to feel important
12. etc etc etc


my anxiety levels are through the roof :( it just feels like everyone is out to hurt me
 
Why do you think you are going through all these?

Given the staggering list you've put, if it were me, I'd explore the reason and try to identify where I have power to action change. You need to separate those things you can change and / or influence for the better from those things beyond your control.

Those beyond your control, you have to accept, those that you can influence, you have to come up with a plan, dealing with one thing at a time.

Just my opinion, but I think in situations such as those that you've mentioned, one tends to be more responsible for what they are facing than they are willing to accept or acknowledge. This is not me blaming the victim, but rather giving you a perspective that empowers you if you choose to act and exercise your responsibility.

When it comes to dealing with other people, I also find that its usually a good idea to keep in mind that people are who they are and simply wont change to accommodate you if it means abandoning their self identity and/or things they consider important to them. This also applies to how you would act towards other people and so is not a case of others being unreasonable. You just need to know what type of person you are dealing with and their capability of changing.
 
red fox .... i definitely feel something in the stars is causing these climate changes and influencing human behavior. good post thanks
 
thanks luke! i definitely feel something i did along the line began to influence some of these scenarios to manifest, and some i don't. after having an epiphany a few days ago i realized there was a big lesson to learn out of all of this due to the common thread of "pettiness and narcissim". I just needed to detached myself from these situations and let those that attempted to pull me in their storm get coonsumed by it without me. When i looked at how petty the situations were, i realized i didn't want to stoop to that level of selfishness. that's why things backfired on some of the party's involved because I stopped entertaining it.


great advice :)
 
I believe that everything in life happens for a very specific reason. Every event has its cause. Nothing is accidental.
For example, a man in 40s dies of a heart attack, his friends and family say, "We do not understand, man's whole life was healthy." But the point is that we else we can not get into your head, understand how they perceive things, because maybe the man was destroying himself inside and it had a place to express itself. In his case, a heart attack.
The point here is not that man, not a heart attack. But the fact that things usually are not what they seem. We can often judge only on the basis of what we know about them or see.

Funky is that we attract and "negative" and "positive" events in his life. To change occurred, our focus must be directed to the other champions. Not to the problem, but of problems to a solution. From what we do not want to what I really desire. Changes in your life have occurred during the time that at one point came to the moment when you finally recognized that change. Maybe he somehow felt at first, but you do not work sufficiently alarming. However, when things go wrong man at one point came to the point where things could no longer be ignored.
Thus, the change took place gradually. You have to know. It is important, because it will change to a better also happens gradually.
What would life have begun to make changes, you must change the way we see the world around them. First of all, you should start from your thoughts, from what you focus. For every action, preceded by a thought.

Focus on the positive aspects of your personality, the environment, the people around him. In all you can find good and bad sides. Terms daily gratitude for the things that you have. For what you're doing. For what you're getting.
What is your diet, EE?
These are all things that you can help in better perspective on problems. :) :) :)
 
LIV, in my opinion, you don't need stars when you have Cassiopaea.

It is a test for you, and it's not what's happening that's important, it's how you deal with it.

"All there is, is lessons."

Be strong.
 
Hi LIV, it seems you are going strong through these attacks so kudos for that. :) !

it may be helpful reading these

The 4th Way Work classifies the forces working on man into A, B and C influences.
A influences are mechanical and random in nature, they seek to keep man occupied with the external world. They can be pictured as vectors of random magnitude and direction which all in the end add up to the zero vector. This is how A influences keep man in his place while providing a lot of random, transient motion. To take a physics analogy, this is like thermal motion of molecules. A influences are the normal realm of man and as long as man seeks no esoteric development these can be good and favorable.


A influences are influences or force vectors created within life itself. Influences such as race, nation, country, family, profession, entertainment, current ideas, customs and so on create A influences. These are the first variety of influences by which man is surrounded. These influences are distributed almost equally over all the surface of the cycle of life. Their effects are radiated outwardly and these effects are inversely proportional to the square of the distance, much like the way in which radiant energy is propagated. Any man is influenced by those influences that directly surround him. He is pulled every instant in this way or that way depending on the way they act on him at any moment within his spatial region. These A influences that surround him, all point in different directions creating a force vector nullification that is comparable to the electrical neutrality of large bodies, whereby no matter how intense the local electrostatic fields surrounding the atoms may be, there is always a space-distributed compensation that makes the whole body perfectly neutral. Those who live strictly by A influences are what Gurdjieff refers to as "nullities.' This is your "average man" in life.

B influences are vectors that are thrown into the field of A influences but these have a conscious source and a consistent direction. B influences do not cancel each other out and systematically recognizing and following these may lead man to the beginning of esoteric work.


B influences differ from A influences because they are CONSCIOUS in their origin and have been created consciously OUTSIDE life by conscious people for a definite purpose. These influences are the "soul" of any culture and they are embodied in the form of religious systems and teachings, philosophical doctrines, art, etc. They are inserted into life for a definite purpose but although these influences are conscious in their origin they begin to act mechanically when they mix within the general vortex of life. Eventually 'B' influences will be transformed into 'A' influences after they merge together within this general vortex.


In some people there is a discriminatory power within them that allows them to discriminate between these two kinds of influences and they discern from this that there are certain influences that come from a source that is outside the mainstream of life. This person remembers them and FEELS them together and they begin to form a certain whole, a certain kind of magnetic "presence" within that person. This person may not be sure exactly what this feeling is and they cannot really give themselves a clear account of what these feelings necessarily mean but the end result is that they collect within this person and they form a MAGNETIC CENTER, and if the conditions are right, this magnetic center leads them to search for someone who knows the way and is connected to the source of these 'B' influences, that is, they seek a person or teacher who is connected to an esoteric center that stands outside the general laws of life.


It is from this source that the person sets on the WAY. The moment when the person looking for the way meets someone who knows the way then this contact is called the FIRST THRESHOLD or FIRST STEP. From this first threshold the STAIRWAY begins. Between 'life' and the 'way' lies the 'stairway.'


C influences are only found within the Work and can only be received in personal interaction with a conscious being. Receiving C influences requires a certain level of personal sensitization and receptivity. Failing this, C influences work like B influences.
C influences come from the SOURCE, that is, from an esoteric Center that is located outside of life. When they directly act on someone with a newly developing magnetic center THROUGH a teacher who is directly connected to the source then these influences are called C influences. From this connection the person's magnetic center will grow and will lead them to escape the dominion of the Law of chance and enter into the domain of consciousness.


The magnetic center is the organ the seeker gradually develops for discerning between A and B influences. External criteria cannot generally be used for distinguishing between A and B influences. A influences can closely mimic and parallel B influences. For example, such an influence may speak of the personal gain to be had in the Work, may preach humility while secretly priding oneself on one's great purity etc. Such influences generally involve a degree of dishonesty or deceit or service to self. The points may be arbitrarily subtle and no fixed checklist can be adequate. Discernment is a skill that eventually may become a part of one's being.
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This word is used in the QFS discourse to denote action of the General Law towards hampering a person's or group's esoteric work or development.

This may involve an endlessly broad range of circumstances. These will generally not be distinguishable from bad luck or any common adversity. These occur in whichever area one may be most vulnerable. Attack may be evident but its relation to a control system or General Law will almost by definition remain indemonstrable to a third party. This can be akin to a Murphy's law: If it can go wrong, it will.

An attack is not always a misfortune in the A influence sense, although it often is this too. It can be any temptation, seduction, opportunity involving anything from romance to money to career to following one's noble or altruistic traits.

It can be any trouble, whether being victim of crime, stalking, threats, violence, legal problems, slander, defamation. It may range from constant irritation to immediately life-threatening levels. The objective of the General Law is generally not to literally destroy, except as concerns esoteric development. Its objective is rather to keep people in their place. Of course, death and permanent insanity are also possible outcomes. Often, rather than directly killing, attack may permanently discourage people or scare them away or permanently entrap them to live in a survival oriented mode where they have time for nothing else.

In some cases, attack takes the form of direct hyperdimensional influences. These can involve UFO abduction, strange psychic occurrences, synchronicities, inexplicable diseases with sudden onset, etc. Demonstrating these to be directed by any outside ill intent is not usually possible within the A influence framework.

Attacks usually involve a 'vector' or 'portal' of attack. This is a group or person through which the trouble takes place. The expression 'closing portals of attack' means taking precautions against various possible attacks. This would mean avoiding possible legal liabilities, not giving any grounds for rumors, not taking unnecessary risks, etc.

Attack may manifest through anything and everything. It will often take place through persons that are close such as family members. The New Testament has this to say, from the Gospel of Matthew:

10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

Outside the esoteric context, the General Law may be beneficial and reasonable. The meaning of the above verses refers to the life of one who commits to an esoteric path. The attachments to one's family are not bad, they are even quite necessary. However they will often be hijacked by the General Law and turned against the seeker.

Any defense can only be rooted in awareness of the possibility of attack and in anticipating and preempting these as may be possible.

If the attack consists of criminal or underhanded activity or lies and slander, a possible defense may be to avoid a shouting match and simply expose the facts of the case to all concerned, while not directly addressing the attacker. The lie in this case gets the truth as answer. Propagating lies can be seen in one sense as an asking for truth. Personal integrity is important, as is the attempt to minimize things which could be used to blackmail.

Going to extremes in preventing possible attacks will often in itself satisfy the General Law. Such a situation could include limiting all one's public activity, and/or staying where one is, which effectively maintains the aim of the General Law. Thinking that one can defy the world is hubris; one should take this into account and not attempt to pick fights which will simply get one killed. Thinking that one is smarter than the 'control system' is always an invitation for trouble.

Falling into pervasive paranoia or being disconnected from people may well destroy one's esoteric development. Retaining an ability to trust and to be open within reason is important. It is true that any exclusive dependencies may be used against one and that in general they should be avoided. An esoteric group cannot be formed without trust, hence capacity for trust needs to be preserved despite the control system's discouragement of same. Discernment is critical.

Seeing an attack in an archetypal setting may alleviate the feeling of it being personal. The people involved may simply be taken over by the 'matrix,' at least in figurative terms and their actions may not be strictly personal.

The widespread cointelpro activity directed first against the civil rights movement and student radicals of the 1960-70's and then later against the New Age, UFO and conspiracy scenes offers many case studies of attack. We note that attack is not even principally a spiritual phenomenon and does not in most cases require any 'higher forces.' Challenging the belief structures of people, particularly those people in positions of power is often enough and the regular functioning of the 'predator's mind' takes care of the rest. Although most of the targets in the above cases were not engaged in esoteric activity they still may offer lessons.

See the Wave Series and Adventures with Cassiopaea for a broad range of case studies of attack.
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These are from; http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/
The glossary has certainly helped me explain some crazy things. :)
 
wow! thanks lilyalic! great read! i have started reading the wave series! that helped me put things into perspective ..
 
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