New IPCC failures

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Headlines -

Amazongate: new evidence of the IPCC's failures

The IPCC is beginning to melt as global tempers rise, says Chistopher Booker

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/7113582/Amazongate-new-evidence-of-the-IPCCs-failures.html

 

[Pierre]

Headlines -

Amazongate: new evidence of the IPCC's failures

The IPCC is beginning to melt as global tempers rise, says Chistopher Booker

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/7113582/Amazongate-new-evidence-of-the-IPCCs-failures.html

Hi Treesparow,

There seems to be less and less space on the IPCC coffin to hammer nails in

The Amazongate title refers in particular to this excerpt:

Dr North next uncovered "Amazongate". The IPCC made a prominent claim in its 2007 report, again citing the WWF as its authority, that climate change could endanger "up to 40 per cent" of the Amazon rainforest – as iconic to warmists as those Himalayan glaciers and polar bears. This WWF report, it turned out, was co-authored by Andy Rowell, an anti-smoking and food safety campaigner who has worked for WWF and Greenpeace, and contributed pieces to Britain's two most committed environmentalist newspapers. Rowell and his co-author claimed their findings were based on an article in Nature. But the focus of that piece, it emerges, was not global warming at all but the effects of logging.

 

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Hi Treesparow,

There seems to be less and less space on the IPCC coffin to hammer nails in

Hi Belibaste

Yet there still seems to be a heck of a lot of denial concerning this massive fraud within the envornmental movement from what I've experienced. I move within 'green' circles and tried to mention it to several people I know, but never get anywhere or a typical response would be that all the sceptics are in the pay of the oil companies (or greatly influenced by their propagander). A local green group showed Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth in the town hall a couple of years back as part of the Transition Towns project and also I've seen it being touted around local schools by someone I know. The transition towns project, by the way, deals with the alleged fact that were're running out of oil and 'peak oil' is real and we have to make adjustments to the way we live. I've mentioned to several greenies that the origin of oil has nothing to do with fossils and any other once living matter and pointed to the work done by Thomas Gold in his book The Deep Hot Biosphere about the abiotic origins of oil. (Which itself was based on about 500 scientific papers put out by Russian and Ukranian researchers under Stalins' rule - so it would be very unlikely they would turn in fraudulent data, unless they wanted to be carted off to a freezing labour camp!)

Sorry, probably going a bit off topic there. Just trying illustrate how deeply entrenched these sort of belief systems are among environmentalists and how difficult they are to shake off. I, like many, took MMGW on faith for many years until I looked into it more closely and began see it for the hoax it was ( and latterly as a means to gain control over the planet by draconian environmental controls/restrictions.

As ever, fwiw.

(edit)

Forgot to mention in the above that during my chat with friends I said that I did not think that the oil reserves were running out and that this had just a long time ploy by the oil companies to in order to charge whatever price they wanted. As for the oil being non -biological in origin I was met with the retort that it was all 'junk science'.