New Original Song

Excellent mocachapeau! Very smooth funkyish and original sound.

As far as the great idea of collaborating on music.....http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,14843.0.html

It hasn't really gotten off the ground yet but now might be a great time. ;) I'm pretty sure there is still an active account at reverbnation, which is very useful.
 
Hi, mocachapeau.It's seems to me that you want to sweeten a blue, sad memory of your past feelings, but still is plain of melancholia.Very nice changes in minutes:0.46, 1.17, and 3.35.From minute 2.03 to 2.20 could be some kind of sweet armonica.Remember, in music are very important the differences (in plural). I am not a expert in music but I learnt to listen.It's very pleasant the talented persons there are here in the forum.Music is something great, nobody can stop the music.
 
cholas said:
As far as the great idea of collaborating on music.....http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,14843.0.html

It hasn't really gotten off the ground yet but now might be a great time. ;) I'm pretty sure there is still an active account at reverbnation, which is very useful.

I checked out the reverbnation page and I can see that what you've been doing is pretty much the same as what I've been doing with my writing partner (more or less). That is, one person records an idea, posts it, and then others can add to it. I don't know exactly how reverbnation works but I'm sure I could figure it out with a bit of examination, and help. And I heard some of the tunes you've been creating - very cool!

I also noticed that the last post in the Music Collaboration thread is from over a year ago. Is anyone still working on the project, or collaborating in other ways? Or has it been left aside for the moment? If it has been put aside for the moment I would like to ask why. I understand that time constraints are probably a huge factor - they are for me. But if there are other reasons, like technical problems, we might be able to address them. Maybe this is too complicated a project, or it wasn't working as well as people expected, or, or... Whatever the reasons (and different people may have different reasons), I would just like to know so I can figure out whether or not to pursue this. And if so, how to go about it. It may just need some more organizing - who knows?

Maybe this should be a separate thread, or maybe added to the Music Collaboration thread, or something. I really want to try and do something with this.
 
Hi everyone,

One of the things I've learned on the forum is that when people suddenly stop responding to me it's because I've written something that has been considered offensive, or inappropriate, or something of that nature. So if I have done so in this case, I apologize. As I reread my post I can see that one might get the impression that I have stated that the project may have been poorly organized by the people involved, and that I can "do it right".

I was SO not trying to say that. My thought was that if everyone has put the project aside because they have already seen from experience that it doesn't work, whatever the reasons, then I would like to know that instead of embarking on something that has already been proven to be a dead end. Like maybe it would be best left alone, and energy spent elsewhere, or in a different way. The conclusions you have drawn from your experience are the most valuable pieces of information for anyone wanting to get involved.

When I said "it might just need more organizing", I was not saying it may need to be organized in a better way. I was saying that maybe if the people involved kept at the organizing part of it, solutions may be found for the possible problems that may have been encountered. That maybe it IS a difficult project, but a way to turn it into something productive may still exist - you just need to keep looking until you find it (more organizing). And that doesn't imply MY involvement in the organizing, at all.

That truly was all I was trying to say, and I am sorry if I expressed myself poorly.

Maybe the reasons cholas said it never really got off the ground are reasons that were/are beyond everyone's control, like lack of adequate equipment or technology. I was just hoping someone could fill me in. I have very limited recording experience and very simple tools at my disposal. I never thought of myself as the guy with all the answers.
 
mocachapeau said:
Hi everyone,

One of the things I've learned on the forum is that when people suddenly stop responding to me it's because I've written something that has been considered offensive, or inappropriate, or something of that nature. So if I have done so in this case, I apologize.

Or, perhaps, since it's only been 8 hours since the other post, people just haven't had time to respond? It's usually best to not read too much into lack of response on this forum as people are very busy. It looks like you're letting your emotions run your thinking and coming up with all sorts of theories of why you've not gotten any response, when the reality is likely much more mundane.
 
Yes, I suppose you're right about that. I am rather hyper-sensitive about offending people, especially here. I think a good EE session before bed might be in order. Thanks Anart.
 
One thing I've learned is that our fear of upsetting others can be a form of worrying our mask is slipping. Instead of presenting our true selves, warts and all, we try to manage our reputation, what people think of us, to avoid discomfort, rejection, etc. So, when I find myself feeling like I need to backpedal or worrying that I offended, I try to take inventory of what is behind my concerns. Often it's my fear of being judged wrong in some way and therefore vulnerable to rejection. Ultimately, reputation management is a form of social manipulation, OSIT.

Just a thought, in case it applies in some way to how you were feeling.

Regards,
Gonzo
 
My apologies for the late reply. Anart pretty much nailed the reason.

Mocachapeau, the original idea seemed to have had quite a bit of energy behind it and of course it IS a great idea(the CassBand project) but in speaking only for myself, time constraints really played the biggest role in not being able to do more.

Also, I play music too much methinks! ;) And so close behind the lack of time during our busy winter season, there is also the 'burn-out' mode where picking up the guit or even finding creativity becomes an issue. Hopefully with the coming of our slow season that will change. It has in years past.

We mostly just use Audacity to record here in the studio and I'm a little less-than-impressed with how it's turned out. More experimenting is definitely needed.

Maybe we could move this conversation to the Music Collaboration thread?
 
After finding myself unbelievably busy this past week, I feel doubly silly about my worries about a lack of response after only eight hours. Since last Wednesday I've been running around all over the place with barely a moment to think. And it all happened so quickly - one thing after the other! So, sorry about the late reply, and lesson learned.

Gonzo said:
One thing I've learned is that our fear of upsetting others can be a form of worrying our mask is slipping. Instead of presenting our true selves, warts and all, we try to manage our reputation, what people think of us, to avoid discomfort, rejection, etc. So, when I find myself feeling like I need to backpedal or worrying that I offended, I try to take inventory of what is behind my concerns. Often it's my fear of being judged wrong in some way and therefore vulnerable to rejection. Ultimately, reputation management is a form of social manipulation, OSIT.

Just a thought, in case it applies in some way to how you were feeling.

Regards,
Gonzo

I never thought about it like that before, and I think you are right. If I had written something questionable, someone would probably have pointed it out and we could have dealt with it. Why should I get worried about THAT scenario?

What's worse is I didn't see anything offensive about what I wrote in the first place but, as Anart said, I let my emotions take over my thinking and started looking for how I might have been misinterpreted. And it had only been 8 hours, for goodness' sake. I think that indicates more emotional thinking, and a little selfishness as well. Because I was starting to get excited about embarking on a project that really interested me I was checking for responses as often as I could, only being aware of my desire to get the information I wanted. I stopped thinking about the existence of other people's situations.

It all seems like a big waste of energy now, and I think if I'm to have any kind of helpful input for this project I'm going to have to use my energy more wisely.

cholas said:
My apologies for the late reply. Anart pretty much nailed the reason.

Mocachapeau, the original idea seemed to have had quite a bit of energy behind it and of course it IS a great idea(the CassBand project) but in speaking only for myself, time constraints really played the biggest role in not being able to do more.

Also, I play music too much methinks! ;) And so close behind the lack of time during our busy winter season, there is also the 'burn-out' mode where picking up the guit or even finding creativity becomes an issue. Hopefully with the coming of our slow season that will change. It has in years past.

We mostly just use Audacity to record here in the studio and I'm a little less-than-impressed with how it's turned out. More experimenting is definitely needed.

Maybe we could move this conversation to the Music Collaboration thread?

Clearly, there are no apologies needed for late replies. I understand the time constraint issue all too well, for both the posting issue and the project. I just got back from playing at my daughter's last elementary school end-of-year concert, for which I have been rehearsing over the last few weeks. Add that to everything else and...

I've been trying to think of suggestions on how to simplify the project and/or improve the quality of the recordings. One idea I've been toying with is having one individual dealing with the production of the recording, instead of having too many different people adding tracks over top of tracks, over top of tracks, all with different software and recording equipment. But there are obstacles there that would need to be addressed, like how does everyone get their idea to the person making the recording, and can that individual reproduce the others' ideas adequately. I still need to work on that. Ultimately, there might have to be some interpretation done by one or two individuals, and it would need to be approved by the ones who submit the ideas. It's only a thought for the moment.

The other idea I like is for people to submit lyrics to some of the musicians, anyone who is interested in putting someone else's words to their own music. I know I would like to have a go at that. The author of the lyrics could give the composer an idea of what style of music they hear for their words, or if they have something really specific in mind (like a melody) they could somehow send it to the composer. Or, the lyricist could be open to letting the musician do whatever they feel when they read the lyrics. There were some really interesting pieces written for the POTS.

I'll keep you posted if I come up with anything solid, and I will post it to the music collaboration thread.
 
mocachapeau said:
What? No replies? :D
Hah, glad you can laugh at yourself.

Individual files could be dropped and shared on one of those file storage/sharing services like drop box perhaps.

Gonzo
 
mochachapeau said:
There were some really interesting pieces written for the POTS.

Yes. And I just heard Approaching Infinity's musical rendition of POTS about a week ago and was amazed. There are definitely some very talented musicians on the forum. So maybe something powerful will eventually come together.
 

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