Newbie label what does this mean?

[jasminescents]

hello:() have just joined the site and feel this is where one is intended to be as have researched the site over the past few days and have found a direct alignment in many of the writings. Feels as if coming to a space of , with so many questions and so many answers defined with so many riddles. What this means, perhaps one learn and find out. However, do have a question, in ones profile it states "disruption to the force" in bright red ... Why? What does this mean... is it just a heading for a newbies to throw us off course and allow doubt to be our teacher in a moments grace? Not feel so welcomed with this label, nor am I one for labels:) Can you please identify this for me.

Thank you with a smile, xo

 

[Vulcan59]

Hi jasminescents,

Have a look here which explains the "ranking system" used in this forum. In the meantime, welcome to the forum. :) We recommend all new members to post an introduction in the Newbies section telling us a bit about themselves, and how they found their way here. Have a read through that section to get an idea of how others have done it. Thanks.

 

[jasminescents]

Oh thank you very much Vulcan, that feels ever so much better now:) sort of read that and said "oye, does this have to do with the mars in saturn again" as have worked on this till it has been tamed to balance, yet maybe not:)

Have posted in the newbie section already with an introduction, not ones best way of describing myself, yet good enough perhaps to get the idea. Am so thrilled to be here! However, in the past few many minutes, getting tugged and pulled lots ... channels are open big time and getting nudged ... sudden huge energies , massive energies, causing some resistance on my part. More foreign energies, which I love if may add, gives rise to the moment for a change. Normally do not experience these sort from a simple connectivity made unless really important. These very different...

As was trying to mention in ones introduction best one could at the time. Everything has shifed to a space more then ever it was in the past 9 months. Ones experiences alone cause me to go into a hyper state of research. Finding this website has been like coming home... its like reading all have broadcasted over the years and THEN answering so many questions to riddles.

Anyways just sharing and thank you for sending me into a comfort zone. Look forward to moving up past the gates here from a destructive force xo

 

[Yozilla]

I consider myself: "fresh-o-teric" rather than a disturbance in the force because The Force is so great that someone like me could not disturb it in anyway .... I have a kind of relaxed approach in this wave matter cause, if I did correctly get it, The Great Scenario is already happening and I didn´t start smoking yet - and I really don´t have enough time to develop myself completely....

 

[jasminescents]

Morning Yozilla, this is a fantastic way of altering the perception. We can totally take the word destruction with many other characteristics and change it to a positive outcome. Vocabulary itself has so many definitions these days. Even if we take the infamous word, "Apocalypse", it is often defined as doomsday with all the fancy lets get scared frills. (another word for destruction it is perhaps also) However, the word Apocalypse is the revealing of truth. In my own perception anyways.

Have been followed with this mars-saturn tag in my charts for so long, so thought at the time it was in reference to my star charts. Mars-Saturn is considered to be a destructive force, yet again to whom. Have spend many years taming this fire to a centered balance, yet apparently still have some more to release or else it would have not triggered such a caring.

Thank you for sharing such a positive swing to this and also sharing the refreshment of you as a force Yozilla:)

 

[anart]

I consider myself: "fresh-o-teric" rather than a disturbance in the force because The Force is so great that someone like me could not disturb it in anyway .... I have a kind of relaxed approach in this wave matter cause, if I did correctly get it, The Great Scenario is already happening and I didn´t start smoking yet - and I really don´t have enough time to develop myself completely....

There is no data to back up this conclusion, Yozilla. When considering nonlinear processes, one can't determine what is and what is not possible from one particular point in time, at least not to my understanding. All that really matters is what you do with the time you have - you're still alive, thus there is still hope. Of course, if you defeat yourself in advance by assuming there is no point, then the outcome is already determined, isn't it?

 

[SolarMother]

Have been followed with this mars-saturn tag in my charts for so long, so thought at the time it was in reference to my star charts. Mars-Saturn is considered to be a destructive force, yet again to whom. Have spend many years taming this fire to a centered balance, yet apparently still have some more to release or else it would have not triggered such a caring.

Hello jasminescents! I like astrology, and my hubby has a lot of Mars-Saturn signatures in his chart. In teachings of a more ancient astrology, Mars with Saturn is called "malefic" in it's influence. To me that means difficult. Doing things the hard way. Stoic. Strict. Hard stuff with the father and/or patriarchy, slow and steady as you go, step by step, inch by inch...(add your own!) As you said, 'spent many years taming this fire...'

fwiw, "A Disturbance in the Force" can mean a 'blip' in the Universe or Matrix radar! A 'blip' that says 'there's potential here!' And like the C's said, 'All there is is lessons!'

Over the years I've seen the suffering and difficulties this planetary combo brings to my loved ones and myself--especially in the way of hard lessons about reality and work in the world system. It seems we choose our lessons, and Mars-Saturn's lessons can have a lot to do with responsibility, and experiencing restriction of many kinds until the lessons are learned. All difficult planetary combos and signs/houses push the individual to overcome the karmic influences through work on the self which involves seeing through our many illusions, which involves suffering. Sound like a typical Capricornian initiation?
An individual can feel dang depressed when in the midst of a Saturn-Mars transit or planetary period! Choosing between victim-hood and giving up, or success and achievement, when overcoming the burdens and restrictions, is part of the Mars/Saturn journey.

Mars with Saturn brings fruition or reward over time (sometimes feels like endless time, eh?) having to do with discipline, paying one's dues, and then manifestation of something solid and enduring. Something that was built 'brick by brick' over time, that is useful or protective for others perhaps. There's a lot of service potential in Mars with Saturn (or Mars in Cap.) STO. My hubby and I are currently in another Mars-Saturn lesson learning school. Luckily, with a little help from the Great Benefic, Jupiter! ;)

 

[jasminescents]

WOW thank you for that Solar-Mother, as also had a little giggle to go with it because you were so much on target hahaha!

Mars-Saturn in the 12th house, has been its own reward on this journey so much!!!! It is no accident took on this persona/trait in being. Had spend many years, as you noticed "taming this fire" and went through much suffering because of it. One day, I just woke up to letting all this suffering go. Learned enough through suffering and it was time for another way to learn. Another lesson then became a bi-product of this Mars-Saturn trait, is the ability to be inspired and embrace ones vulnerabilities in the strength they actually are, while learning how to not allow emotions to be the conductor of ones reality.

What has helped me is my elements are fire and water as equal, they hold a rather complimentary factor to each other, however can also be destructive too. So worked more with the elements of air. Air began to balance everything in how I responded to the physical self and allowed the channels to open with a new trust level in my own self too.

Its the element of Earth which has never been a strong force for me. Have and feel a huge infinity to my tree outside my window, the smell of crisp air, can hear the snow melt as it creates its own song and adore animals at times more then the human genome mentality. No, disrespect intended to human beings, just often human actions cause me to tilt my head to the side trying to understand often. So much drama, ya know. Anyways, been connecting to Earth in many ways, yet never much with the Earthly physical body. This has been my personal project for me and on me, since January... to align with the physical body too and not take it forgranted.

Do feel these traits we have in our houses are lessons for us to learn how to "use" them successfully in our creations, not heal from them or move past them. Be one with the positive traits in what makes us unique and compliments each other in this orchestra of life. Allowing it to transform within our true self to be revealed in harmony.

Lessons ... earlier in the past summer was so calm and so centered and so accepting to all and within all was trying to find things to make me react to learn something from events in my life, yet could not. So opposite to a flaming fire to rest within the Buddha lady mentality. Now it just is and its a sweetened change in my own identity. Takes learning to a whole new level then what it was before and allows me to listen "even more" to what comes from the depths of the inner-being-ness.

All to say, still a stubborn warrior set of person, although so senstive and so much in the heart at the same time. Its always been a catch 22 of both as they are both very predominate characteristics in me.

Just learned in the past few days, when found these transcripts about the STO and STS. Resonate fully with it and it makes such an incredible sense. The service to self has been over for awhile now for the "me" and replaced with the service to others. It has been a kicking and screaming tug of war for me during this journey of experience, mostly with my family. Self-awareness is the extent of my service to self in constant search to go deeper within and this allows me to be more aligned with the collective we. It is difficult though, as we do still need to find a source to function in this world and provide for ourselves and our children. How does one do this effectively while being an STO is the biggest question I have for a long time now! What has worked is oddly just manifesting through Trust, yet do know we or I am supposed to be part of co-creating something really wonderful too. Not sure if explaining this all right at all.

It is amazing finding this portal to allow some deeper learning to take place and engage with people who are moving in the same spaces. What have noticed is people challenge each other here and this is fantastic. Self-awareness totally magnified here, love it!

Thank you for sharing with me and look forward to more soon xo

 

[Yozilla]

There is no data to back up this conclusion, Yozilla. When considering nonlinear processes, one can't determine what is and what is not possible from one particular point in time, at least not to my understanding. All that really matters is what you do with the time you have - you're still alive, thus there is still hope. Of course, if you defeat yourself in advance by assuming there is no point, then the outcome is already determined, isn't it?

I do absolutely agree with you, anart ,about this assumed defeat that produces a real one. This wrong way I was living on my own for long time in the past. Every bad outcome that I predicted came real and that was the case in many life situations, but all through this suffering I always had that little of "something" which was pulling me out of that abyss of misery. I was considering myself as an optimist despite all those poor prognoses of mine.

Nevertheless in my previous post I tried to express my easy approach to this matter since I am absolute beginner and I don´t want to waste myself quickly as I did in a number of occasions before in other aspects of life. I am still confused and a little bit scared so it will take some time to start understanding things on these sites.

Anyway - thanks for the ecouragement and challenge , if I could say!