Nick Fuentes, from troll king to... leader of a true 'America First' movement?

That was fast! More likely then is that he just chanced it with a new sign-up.

Was Jones banned just now, or has he been banned for years at this point?
No Jones was banned Sep 2018 initially on then Twiter followed by other platforms withing days, then reinstated on X in Dec 2023

Fuentes getting positive mentions now from high-profile Republicans:


Vivek has been heavily critizised for his "chatgpt" style of responses. They are all trying to score points with each other.
 
Vivek has been heavily critizised for his "chatgpt" style of responses.

These people have young, social media managers as part of their staff. Every one of them have nice production staffs at this point, of course it's probably to a lesser extent than many of your podcasting types.
 
Here is Nick giving sophisticated, level-headed response (:whistle:) when his viewer suggests to look into diet in order to improve his health issues...

If Fuentes could control himself and be open to new information, he might notice that giving up bread could mitigate his schizo tendency to lash at his fans (guised as a humor/trolling) when they show to be more knowledgeable about a topic and are being just helpful.

edit: What a clown!

 
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Here is Nick giving sophisticated, level-headed response (:whistle:) when his viewer suggests to look into diet in order to improve his health issues...

If Fuentes could control himself and be open to new information, he might notice that giving up bread could mitigate his schizo tendency to lash at his fans (guised as a humor/trolling) when they show to be more knowledgeable about a topic and are being just helpful.

edit: What a clown!

I've managed to watch 1:25 minutes, his ranting resembles that of a deranged individual. Don't know, so far to me this guy is just a sad and pathetic figure.
 
f Fuentes could control himself and be open to new information, he might notice that giving up bread could mitigate his schizo tendency to lash at his fans (guised as a humor/trolling) when they show to be more knowledgeable about a topic and are being just helpful.

edit: What a clown!
Then he'd be more like Candace, thoughtful, a critical thinker and less easily controlled and manipulated by his emotions - in other words, of absolutely no use to the Israeli Zionists. :-O
 
Today Tucker interviewed Nick Fuentes,
And i watched the full thing. (2x speed, will not give him any more of my time than necessary), my stance with him is unambiguously clear, i find him extremely DISHONEST.

Nothing special IMPO, here are my minutes but you can watch it.:

-Nick telling his story for the 100th time,

-Trucker indirectly asks if ALL the jews are deffective genetically and Nick flipflops (because he has said it is genetic, but because he's on Tucker's show now he "fully agrees with Trucker")

-White americans becoming a minority, and how christian zionists aid israel (fair point but no conversation or why this is or accountability)

-And how women are primal, simple minded beings who should just stick to the kitchen....
But men have to lead....
And men aren't inspired by females that act like OF hoes and boss their man around and the guy lets them get away with it AKA simping.

-conversation about porn, videogames and how that affects the youth in the political extrimism realm and in the dating realm


What was NOT discussed.

No discussion about Nick's fair claims of Tucker's CIA past and his dad's CIA connections (which was Nick's response to the Tucker / Candace interview)

No conversation about Candace and his CNN style attack on her for a month

No conversation around white americans joining the millitary and then blaming the jews for all the wars (other than Lucas Gage, i haven't hear many white nationalists addressing it head on)

No holding Nick accountable for any of his pathethic beta male attacks on Candace's investigation

Barely any pushback about his stances on women and his (latent hate towards them)

No conversation about Charly (other than maintaining it was a leftist despite Candace's evidence) clearly because he commited to that lie, and now that he is loosing that plot he wont bring it up to Tucker's audience.

No conversation about how men act lile man-children , how men don't lead or missinterpret leading with authoritarianism or aggresivity.


The interview felt like eating a bowl of oatmeal with water to me, softball, but maybe others who never heard this before would learn something who knows, this felt more like part of a media tour and a platforming symbolic excersise than anything else.
Nevertheless i maintain my stance.







On a different Note

I have a problem with a general point i keep seeing, it came up in this interview

The idea that " rethoric doesnt cause violence" and that statement in and of itself is rethorical, it came up in this interview,
on the one hand Nick has said that the allaged shooter was a "radicalized leftists" and all this rethoric and drugs and deep web forums and all that caused this person to go off, and on the other no accountability for his own (could easily be interpreted as) incendiary rethoric, and that is not exclussive to Nick, everyone uses this rethorical point that "words don't cause violence" and in the realm of rethoric, it is a chess move, that makes sense, but IN reality *REALITY* though, ABSOLUTELY words can 100% lead to violence.
...maybe it's just me getting older by i find these rethorical false points incredibly tedious and even annoying, symptoms of political stagnation going over the same overcooked points endlessly.



The other day i was watching a Simpsons clip and thought, this episode is from 1997, and this has been a thing since probably the 60s, 60 years and people STILL get cat-laser-pointed , walked in circles with rethoric like this..


Rethoric is a sales pitch, reality is reality.


EDIT: sentence / word out of place
 
Back when Nick Fuentes had the verbal sparring with Candance and Tucker, my wish and hope was that Tucker would invite him to his show, and show him (and by extension, Nick's followers) what a healthy father figure looks like. My wish sorta came true in this interview, thankfully, I woke up at 4:30 am :lol: :


Initial thoughts: I think Tucker did a great job giving Nick space to share what he stands for. Nick wasn't totally honest all the time, but he moderated himself considering where he was and who he was talking to. Tucker, I thought, showed a lot of understanding and tried to empathize, he shared some wisdom from his experience of being a public person, how to handle attacks, etc. He was basically trying to tell Nick, "I get what you say, I agree mostly, but the way you say it...". He also tried to help him see why it is healthier for men to be married than not.

Notable moments:

"I thought you were a fed!"
"I thought you were a fed!"

or

"I am sorry I called you gay btw, but why aren't you married?"
 
Just finished it (Nick at 2x speed can be a little difficult 🤣 )
The main things I noted (beyond Tucker obviously trying to build bridges), was as follows:
"The jews" ("It's all the Jews"): I get Nick's point and Tuckers. I think they will stay in their positions on this. What is missing it seems is an understanding/knowledge of pathology. Tucker is too "live and let live" and Nick is too "they are all evil". Neither get's near the actual reality. It would solve Nick's "communication issues" if he understood pathology - assuming he can, and that he was able to separate "Jews" from pathological types.
It would bring him over to Tuckers point of "hating neo-cons". Tucker would then be able to see the common thread too.
Same elephant - different sides/masks.

As to his view women (specifically modern 'liberal' women): it's possible a lot of his perspective is created by the college he went to, and reinforced with social media. I hope Tuckers comments about marriage get through to him, or at least give him pause for thought.
Having said that, again it's missing a deeper knowledge (from both sides) - pathology and what that does to people in society/the laws (written and unwritten) of that society, narcissism/entitlement (of both men and women) and it's connection to social media etc.
His point about Tate vs Christians was useful (Tate is "strong", Christian men are being "too liberal") - but again, misses knowledge of pathology (and why although Tate may represent a distortion of something useful/masculine, it's likely pathology/pathologically twisted distortion of something true).
He also perhaps didn't recognise until that moment that Tucker is actually closer to "strong" in the masculine sense. If Tucker understood psychopathy/pathology, he'd hit that note perfectly.

When Nick's moderated (as he was in this interview, which I hope was from good faith - and not about image management), he is very elegant in speaking. I'll give him credit for that.
He is also extremely young. My take away is, I hope he get's the knowledge he needs to grow - without getting 'suicided' because he starts to share that knowledge.
Until then, Tucker is right - he is (hopefully unwittingly) "good for Israel" because he is "extreme", and as such becomes a tar baby.

So bit of a pickle really. I can see (one part of) the knowledge they both need - and it would probably get them killed, being such good public speakers (if they don't learn to handle it well/just blurt it out). I hope at least some bridges where built here in good faith - I suspect maybe not that much, only time will tell. But maybe a seed of something. I hope Nick can grow.

It's one reason Charlie Kirk was chosen - he was fixing the divide. Knowing about psychopaths/pathology also re-orientates everyone, fixing the divides deliberately created by the pathological types. So from that perspective perhaps being "radioactive" is Nick's protective shield for now, even if it creates division.
 

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