Nims Purja

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I haven't seen a thread mention this man or any of his contemporaries so I figured I'd start one.

In the November session of the Cs, some discussion was held about people with special abilities:

(L) Well, it is really more complicated than that, but I mean, there was a timeline, but that was fairly stable. It was a crazy story, a tragic story also, I should mention, for those who don't want to read anything tragic. It doesn't end well. Okay. So, that being the case, how can that be?

A: Just as there are individuals able to heal, to levitate, to be physical mediums, and other so-called paranormal abilities, so there are people whose systems do not submit to the constraints of space and time as you will it to be.

Q: (T.C.) Can I ask a question? Do these people, at the time of their incarnation, do they know that they are going to be incarnating into a body with those genetics, or are they choosing to incarnate into bodies with those genetics for a certain reason, or is it random?

A: In some cases, yes. In others it can be a confluence of genetics and external triggers that upregulate those genes. After all, many, many people have such genes that are dormant. And for other paranormal abilities as well.

Q: (Joe) So, the fact that someone can levitate, or time travel or teleport, or other paranormal... that doesn't speak to their spiritual qualities, or their spiritual development.

A: No.

I'll be honest, I've never really come across a person where I thought there was something special involved. I have certainly come across extraordinary people and people with immense talents but in all cases, at least to me, it wasn't anything that I was like, there's something cosmic going on here !

Well, that is, until I came across this Nims Purja person. I should start by saying he's human, and a cursory search on the internet will reveal many stories that bring his character into question and also there are two cases of sexual misconduct (though not proven in court). I wanted to say this first to make it clear this man isn't like some spiritual guru or any such thing.

Now to what makes this man EXTRAORDINARY. First of all, he was born in poverty in Nepal. His childhood dream was to join the Ghurkas which he did - a great accomplishment in itself, certainly not something that one just does from Nepal:


He then went on and joined the Special Boat Services (SBS) - special forces for the British Navy. All in all, he served like 16 years in the military and saw real warfare. Not much detail is given on what missions he was sent on but we at least know he served in actual war and nearly lost his life at least once - a sniper got him but he was lucky and was saved by the butt of his rifle.

Anyways, this is just the back story, moving on... the man then decided to quit the military in pursuit of a passion to climb mountains and he is now known as a mountaineer. What caught my attention is how effective he is at climbing mountains - he held the record of summiting the 14 highest peaks for a while. The previous record was around 8 years, he brought it down to 7 months. He went up 3 of these mountains (which included Everest) in 48 hours! 😬 There's a lady from Norway who has the record now, 3 months, but she had full funding whilst Nims was well, doing it whilst working - I imagine he'll go for the record in future years.

Btw, these are not a one and done deal - the man just keeps going up and down these mountains like it's nothing. This is because he also works as a guide, taking people up (albeit I imagine it's people of a certain status given his profile). He's gotten into trouble for basically being a bit of a cowboy but I understand he hasn't yet lost any clients (through death).

One other story that caught my eye is he was leading the first team that summited K2 in winter, and when they got close to the top, he got everyone to walk together so that they all got credit as being the first. They did so whilst singing the Nepal national anthem because this is what it meant to them. Here is the clip:


Putting it all together, from the beginnings of being born literally in poverty, to the military career (seeing actual war) to what he is doing now, I can't help but conclude this is nothing short of extraordinary. The man is only 41 years old!

I listened to a podcast he did with Joe Rogan which I found interesting:


I mean, people like these aren't normal whatsoever. Can you imagine the military had this guy and let him go? Jesus Christ - who else do they have?

To me, this man is the closest to a "superman" that I have heard about. He's unfortunately now caught up in a few scandals and seems to have lost favour with public opinion. Given his "special forces" background, I am inclined to think he has done a few questionable things so I am not under any delusions to see him as someone to spiritually look up to. I am just gobsmacked by the story and clear ability the man possesses. You have to remember that every single time they go up those mountains over 8000 meters they are literally not guaranteed to come back down alive - this man does it as his job and prior to that he was active military. I mean, what in the hell? What kind of mindset is this but not only that, what kind of ability is this to have evaded death for so long in such circumstances? 😵‍💫

Netflix did a documentary - when I say netflix did the documentary, Nims and his team literally filmed themselves whilst they were breaking the record and then had some auction which Netflix won to piece together the footage into the documentary. Can you imagine climbing these mountains and filming yourself at the same time? 😭

I haven't watched the documentary yet - plan on doing so next week:


Btw, I found this interesting, some of these mountaineers are operating in Antarctica this winter. Both Nims and the lady who broke his record are down there!

Here's a short of Nims from there:

 
One other thing worth mentioning - in one of the stories he was telling Joe, he was talking about a hallucination he had once whilst rescuing a guy off a mountain. I think it was Everest or one of the big ones. So he was bringing this guy who had been left to die back down the mountain and he'd given him his oxygen. He said he started hallucinating but he was aware he was hallucinating. You can't believe what he said he saw? A YETI! He even begun to describe it. Joe raised an interesting question whether hallucinations could explain some of the Yeti / Big foot sightings.
 
One other thing worth mentioning - in one of the stories he was telling Joe, he was talking about a hallucination he had once whilst rescuing a guy off a mountain. I think it was Everest or one of the big ones. So he was bringing this guy who had been left to die back down the mountain and he'd given him his oxygen. He said he started hallucinating but he was aware he was hallucinating. You can't believe what he said he saw? A YETI! He even begun to describe it. Joe raised an interesting question whether hallucinations could explain some of the Yeti / Big foot sightings.
as regards yeti, reinhold messner also described having been close to one to smell his odour. the cass also explained the yeti odour
 
as regards yeti, reinhold messner also described having been close to one to smell his odour. the cass also explained the yeti odour
Thanks - for anyone who doesn't know Messner


Here he is explaining away his Yeti. Something clearly left and impression on him up in those mountains that he did several trips to investigate but looks like he landed on a conclusion that it was some sort of bear


Nims on the other hand seems to be rooted in his conclusion that he was hallucinating and I don't think this image of a Yeti holds much sway over him for him to look into it further. He's in the height of his career now - maybe he'll reflect on it when he retires (assuming he doesn't fall victim to the mountains).

It's interesting though that we have accounts of credible mountaineers seeing "something" 👀
 
In case anyone is curious, the lady who broke Nims record is Kristin Harila and her Sherpa guide Tenjen Lama Sherpa


She was caught up in some controversy on K2 though where supposedly they had a choice to rescue someone from another team but doing so would have disrupted their world record attempt. In any case, the person died, hence the controversy.

Saying the above to show how easy life is lost up in those mountains. Her Sherpa guide was quite experienced too but he also lost his life on another expedition which itself has an interesting story of vanity with regards the clients they were working for:

 
I've been watching quite a few mountaineering videos and came across this 19 year old who literally transformed himself from a video game addicted teenager who was severely out of shape into a young man that conquered Everest. All within a year of him deciding to transform himself. This is nothing short of extraordinary.

The footage he has of his climb on Everest is the best I have ever seen. Here he is on summit day - I highly recommend watching it just for the sheer awe of the mountain itself and this kid who has zero fear going up it. The footage can't be any better.


This is him and his transformation journey. What can I say? The results speak for itself and it's actually a bit terrifying how he managed to accomplish such a monumental task at 19.


An article about him:

 
I've been watching quite a few mountaineering videos and came across this 19 year old who literally transformed himself from a video game addicted teenager who was severely out of shape into a young man that conquered Everest. All within a year of him deciding to transform himself. This is nothing short of extraordinary.

The footage he has of his climb on Everest is the best I have ever seen. Here he is on summit day - I highly recommend watching it just for the sheer awe of the mountain itself and this kid who has zero fear going up it. The footage can't be any better.


This is him and his transformation journey. What can I say? The results speak for itself and it's actually a bit terrifying how he managed to accomplish such a monumental task at 19.


An article about him:

Just documenting this here, my guy is now training to go up K2. Not sure what I think about it personally given his age (think he's 20 yrs old now or thereabouts) and experience to date. Having watched enough videos of climbers, I also noted how many have simply died on those 8k meter mountains so it's a very real and present danger to this young man / barely an adult.

He's hungry and has a passion but I can't help but think of the risk involved going up K2. Whilst impressive he went up Everest, my understanding is K2 is much more dangerous.


Someone like Nims for example has tackled these mountains having built up at least like 20 yrs of adult life experience, mostly in the special forces. Ryan in contrast is straight from high school to tackling the largest and most formidable mountains in the world 😬.
 
Random observation, I'm noticing an emergence of very young and talented kids in 2024, at least in the arena of athleticism. When I say talented, I mean generational.

In addition to Ryan in the previous post, there is an 18 year old Sherpa who has been up all the 8k meter peaks


Then there is Gout Gout the Australian-Sudanese 16 year old sprinter who is on a trajectory to surpass Usain Bolt assuming no major injuries or other events derailing him:


And then of course, the footballer Lamine Yamal who last year was the key player (only at 16 yrs old then) in the Spanish side that defied the odds to win the European football championship. Yamal is already there in terms of success, for him it's now just doing this for another 10 - 15 years consistently to cement his legacy at the top 0.00000000001%.


I am not sure if it is just a coincidence but it's something I've noticed. A new generation of young super talented kids have emerged last year.
 
Apologies, I'm going to put this here as I find certain stories of sports people interesting. This weekend, there have been 2 stories that captured my attention

Two stories relate to sons trying to live up to their fathers expectations and in my view, doing a good job.

The first story is from the UK. Back in the 90s Chris Eubank and Nigel Benn both had very good boxing careers and had legendary fights against each other.


Chris Eubank in particular is a quirky character, certainly not to everyone's taste but having dived more into his story over the weekend, I can't help but admire the grit, perseverance and determination.

He has solid advice on what it takes (but this is in the context of boxing)


The guy was just different, nothing more to say. He's been through the wars and come out the other side even better.

Anyways, fast forward to today, both Chris Eubank and Nigel Benns sons are boxers and just had a fight against each other. To me, both sons are doing it in their fathers names and there's something to be said about that. They fought last night and it was gladiatorial and I'm not sure what to say other than they must have been possessed by their fathers spirits.

Anyways, this is their post fight interview with their fathers stood right next to them


The other story to catch my attention is from the US, specifically related to the NFL draft. It has been all over the sports news there - The story of the Sanders family. Deion Sanders (the father in this story) I believe is an American sporting legend, having been extraordinarily talented in both American football and baseball, he was mega successful in his playing days and following that he is now a successful coach in their college football system. What makes Deion a character is his level of confidence which truly borders on arrogance but throughout his life, he's always had the talent to essentially back up his mouth which no doubt has gained him more enemies than he'd have otherwise got.


He is a responsible adult though, and a good father to his 3 sons so he's done well.

Anyways onto the story, he's got 2 of his 3 sons in the draft this year, with the younger one of the two, Shedeur Sanders being the more talented one and so was expected to be selected very high in the draft.

Shedeur Sanders was brought up with a silver spoon, and he has confidence that borders on his father's but his talent isn't generational (let's put it that way). Despite it not being generational he still has decent enough talent for his draft class to be picked where he was projected.

Anyways, the story here is that he was passed over until round 5, and only selected as the 122 pick - the difference in earnings is that a round 1 pick gets around $30m contract whilst round 5 will be around $5m contract or thereabouts I believe. The media narrative was interesting as it covered all the points you'd expect which are around

  • Does he actually have the talent, or is it just because who his dad is that he got to this position.
  • Why feel sorry for him, he's already a millionaire and will never have to struggle for money even if he doesn't work an extra day in his life
  • He's very arrogant so he deserves some humiliation and humbling
  • On the flip side, he was seen as a victim, being made to suffer as a way of NFL owners trying to put his father in his place. Basically his father is seen as flying a bit too close to the sun.
Throughout this process over the last few days, his dad has been stood next to him so you can also see his face... and you truly see the face of a father who loves his sons and though trying to be stoic, you can see the pain as his son essentially goes through a humbling experience in public. Like, it has been all over the American sports media!

Here a good summary of the perspective from the American media:


Anyways, he ended up getting drafted but it was way lower than expected. In the end I think it wasn't really about his talent but his perceived attitude and the fact his dad will be a pain the backside to deal with. Also he hasn't been taken to the trenches without his dad there - he's only ever played under his dad (who is a coach), not anyone else!

I like both stories above - mostly because of the bond between the fathers and sons. My dad is an alcoholic (albeit functional) so no such bonds exist between us two though I do love him !
 
I think the whole "Shedeur Sanders' debacle is pretty simple. No struggling NFL organization wants to deal with the media clown show that comes along with drafting him. All focus would be on Shedeur, and the coach and team would suffer.
 
I think the whole "Shedeur Sanders' debacle is pretty simple. No struggling NFL organization wants to deal with the media clown show that comes along with drafting him. All focus would be on Shedeur, and the coach and team would suffer.
Agreed - that's what I gathered watching it from afar. What captured my attention about the story is the father / son relationship. The father who wants to do right by his son, and the son who wants to do right by his father. Truth be told, Shedeur doesn't need "money" and Deion is already a living legend having exceeded all expectations in his life so the circus for me was a side story. The main story for me was about the father and son. To me, it felt like there's something spiritual about it.

Btw, I have been digging deeper into this Deion guy as he's truly exceptional and I think he's actually a good dude who's done the best he can do for his sons. There's something to respect about that especially given they are African Americans where fathers tend to be... erhmm.... absent:



Now that said, I don't think the odds are in favour of any of his sons making it in the NFL. From what I can gather, the odds are definitely against them even if both got into teams but at least they seem to have a solid family and so will no doubt be ok.
 
Just documenting this here, my guy is now training to go up K2. Not sure what I think about it personally given his age (think he's 20 yrs old now or thereabouts) and experience to date. Having watched enough videos of climbers, I also noted how many have simply died on those 8k meter mountains so it's a very real and present danger to this young man / barely an adult.

He's hungry and has a passion but I can't help but think of the risk involved going up K2. Whilst impressive he went up Everest, my understanding is K2 is much more dangerous.


Someone like Nims for example has tackled these mountains having built up at least like 20 yrs of adult life experience, mostly in the special forces. Ryan in contrast is straight from high school to tackling the largest and most formidable mountains in the world 😬.
Ryan is now posting short daily vlogs of his expedition to get to the summit of K2

 
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