No Cancer Link For Pot Smokers

[ellie mae]

Remember Alberta premier Ralph Klein saying he tried grass, but stopped because it made him paranoid?

Does anyone know whether pot-induced paranoia leads to dangerous actions rather than just dangerous thoughts? Most heavy tokers I know are too limp to get into much trouble.

 

[Guest]

I'm pretty sure, from past experiences, that the weed amplifies paranoia. It is my guess that a bank robber would be even more paranoid while stoned.

Yes, and an artist more inspired, and a stressed out person more relaxed (as long as he/she does not have to worry about cops knocking on their door).

Personally, I think we are a bit paranoid anyway in this society. And when you are sensitized to basically a whole gamut of feelings, sensations and thoughts, through this substance, amplified paranoia can easily be stimulated, among other things. I am sure few studies were done on some of the positive effects of such an altered state. Who would go to the trouble if there were none?

When you are in a safe environment, watching a beautiful sunset or listening to cool music for example, paranoia is less likely, but not completely out of the question. Consider that some otherwise "normal" people get really violent after a few drinks. Others don't. So does alcohol promote violence, or does it reveal it? I think the weed reveals paranoid and psychotic tendencies, but does not cause them. In fact, no causal links were ever established in any study.

It pays to know oneself before trying the stuff (same with drinking, or anything for that matter).

 

[Beau]

Personally, I think we are a bit paranoid anyway in this society..

Didn't you know that is a universal feeling? =D

from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:

Arthur: All my life I've had this strange feeling that there's something big and sinister going on in the world.
Slartibartfast: No, that's perfectly normal paranoia. Everyone in the universe gets that.

 

[Beau]

It pays to know oneself before trying the stuff (same with drinking, or anything for that matter).

Like my grandmum always told me, everything is good for you... in moderation

 

[Hildegarda]

Heavy metal contamination is often a problem in the weed, leading to various health problems that build up later in life. I know of some anecdotal evidence linking it to auto-immune conditions, and the disturbances in motor and nervous system function in children born years after parents used the weed. This could have an impact on how the weed may possible affect the user's mind, too.

 

[Abbey Road]

Freetrinity wrote:

Heavy metal contamination is often a problem in the weed, leading to various health problems that build up later in life. I know of some anecdotal evidence linking it to auto-immune conditions, and the disturbances in motor and nervous system function in children born years after parents used the weed. This could have an impact on how the weed may possible affect the user's mind, too.

You have to consider pestiside spraying too, both to keep bugs off of it and governments attempts to kill the crop before it is harvested. As for paranoia, it is not only about getting busted by the cops, but also getting busted for being stoned by members of society who might hold it against you or make your life miserable for it, i.e. teachers, parents, bosses, etc. You end up worrying if you look stoned, smell like pot smoke (either clothes/hair or breath) and if you carry it on you it makes you jumpy as a cat that you might get caught with it. Being in the altered state of mind, knowing that you aren't quite in control of your faculties and one small misstep will get you busted will make you paranoid while being stoned for sure. Years of having to hide it will make you plain paranoid about all people and avoid cops at all costs. I am certain that the pot is getting stronger, and means of growing have changed too. Hydroponically grown pot is grown in water, which is easy to add other chemicals to, such as acid or ecstasy, and there is no way to know what was done to it when you imbibe. What is amazing to me is the sheer numbers of people who indulge. People one would never consider to be pot smokers are. If someone were to run for president in this country on a platform of legalizing marajuana, and the social stigma of voting for him were eliminated, I am certain he would win hands-down with over 70% of the popular vote. It truly is the opiate of the masses. One interesting phenomenon that I have noticed over the years is the bonding among people who smoke with each other. One tends to only smoke with people one trusts, and even after smoking with a stranger, a bond of trust forms with them. This bond of trust continues when both parties are not stoned too. It is a very interesting drug to use to network for that reason.

 

[wilecoyote]

Are you guys hinting that thc from weed can be as beneficial as nicotine from tobacco?
I've read that it's dependent on the individual (whether they exhibit paranoid behaviour or not), and their state (calm, stressed, worried) before smoking.......am i getting it right?
That's what i interpret from these posts. Please enlighten me if i misinterpreted.

 

[Beau]

Two things

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You've been told about this before Brent.

 

[Cyre2067]

Ya i apoligize. I won't post stuff in topics that may bring about said illegality.

 

[Pierre]

Wilecoyote, you can find a lot of interesting material in "Secret History", one chapter is dedicated to the way substances are processed in the brain (neuron connections, ligands,...)

Like most substances, THC effect will highly depend on the quality of it, the way it's used (state of mind, environment, quantity, frequency,...) and the specificities of the user.

Like other new substances (or new actions) it can provide a catharsis effect. It's even more true with THC because of its psycotropic properties. It can help getting conscious of some habits / belief (the risk however is to replace old habits by new ones). Don Juan describes well why he pushed Carlito to smoke his special substances (peyotl + some other plants).

Pot is part of the past for me. I think it was working as a kind of emotional catalysator. Reinforcing feelings, emotions, moods... So it can be a source of hints for people who use too much their left brain and not enough their right one. It can also (artificially) bring some balance in people who are too much into action / stress (VS reflexion / patience).

Because of its emotion catalysator properties, it might lead to some "unveiling" consequences. Then it can develop paranoid, psychotic, nevrotic grounds. Though I am not sure that it creates ex nihilo those kind of behaviours.

I am not sure we can affirm pot is totally good or totally bad. It might have led to enlightment for some people , depression for other ones and even jail. THC use, sale, production,... are illegal in most countries.

 

[jimeco]

Hi everybody!

I just had this thought.

As Axel_Dunor and many other sources on the web noted, "the above mentioned substance" works as an emotion catalysator.
Great! But what effect does it have one people without emotions i.e. psychopaths??

If it has the capability to create or amplify the very last piece of emotion in a psychopath, it might just be a solution to our problem! :)

As already stated, this is just a thought. I have no concrete info on this topic, but if someone knows anything please post.
And of course, correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Jimbo]

This recent sott article seems to be quite relevant to this topic.

 

[Bernhard]

Two things

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You've been told about this before Brent.

Just out of curiosity, what if it is LEGAL in the country/state you live in? Any laws against nature seem a bit absurd, as if "God made a mistake", and in the end it is about personal freedom. If I had this license as well, would it be ok to talk about it on here since it then wouldn't be considered an ILLEGAL pastime/habit where I live? Just wondering....

 

[Jimbo]

As Axel_Dunor and many other sources on the web noted, "the above mentioned substance" works as an emotion catalysator.
Great! But what effect does it have one people without emotions i.e. psychopaths??

If it has the capability to create or amplify the very last piece of emotion in a psychopath, it might just be a solution to our problem!

Hey jimeco, I would highly recommend you read up much more on the cass site about psychopaths and about disinformation/COINTELPRO. The "sources on the web" could very well be wishful thinking at best, disinformation at worst. I have been pulled into disinformation more times than I would like to admit (even citing them on this site!).
Psychopaths are practically an entirely different species in that they HAVE NO CONSCIENCE! Since they are "wired" so much differently than 'normal' human-beings, I highly doubt that some cannabis is going to "be a solution to our problem". That would also imply that the source that you cited was true, which the article I cited from sott in my previous post says something otherwise.

 

[anart]

If I had this license as well, would it be ok to talk about it on here since it then wouldn't be considered an ILLEGAL pastime/habit where I live? Just wondering....

No.