Noam Chomsky supports the official stories of 9/11 and JFK

[Laura]

Great analysis, Parallax. Would you want to flesh it out just a tiny bit for a SOTT focus?

 

[Voyageur]

Great analysis, Parallax. Would you want to flesh it out just a tiny bit for a SOTT focus?

Well sure do not know a lot about Noam Chomsky but the chinks in his armor are visible and could indeed look into this to see what a bigger picture might look like - need some time though.

 

[Laura]

Great analysis, Parallax. Would you want to flesh it out just a tiny bit for a SOTT focus?

Well sure do not know a lot about Noam Chomsky but the chinks in his armor are visible and could indeed look into this to see what a bigger picture might look like - need some time though.

What you have already done is almost good enough for a short article that gets right to the point. Just needs a bit of intro at the beginning since you would be addressing non-forum members.

 

[go2]

Will end here with this by BZ;

One of Chomsky’s trademark comments is about the power of the people. While appearing to empower dissent, in most of his books and lectures he channels Left energy into a stupor of amazement over past miss-deeds of the Empire and brilliant articulations of the general picture of today’s world, which any thinking Leftist can see without the help of Chomsky. His recent comments about Venezuela, again welcome, are nevertheless a case in point.

Some friends of mine on the Left find it difficult to understand that I am not rejecting Chomsky’s massive work of critiquing the American Empire. It’s not an either/or proposition. On can (and should) critique the Empire vis a vis East Timor, for instance, and strive to expose some of the most toxic domestic work, such as 9/11. The toxic work powerfully aids and emboldens the Empire in its drive toward ever more militarism, repression at home, and global domination. The events of 9/11 are also the Empire’s Achilles Heel[, if exposed. The records shows Chomsky strives to prevent the Left from thinking about, let alone exposing, this toxic work. The reality is that Chomsky’s ruling out of any investigation into 9/11, which could finally accomplish a real shake-up, is at odds with the implied purpose of his foreign policy critiques – to reveal, oppose and displace the Empire.

Germane here is the truism that ‘the most powerful disinformation is 90 per cent true.’

This is great Parallax and could be applied to the Wikileaks phenomenon now in the news. Noam Chomsky and Julain Assange vector the left community into impotence by protecting the toxic core. The left is more intellectual, hence more truth is necessary to hide the BIG LIE at the center of the slave empire. It sure looks like the pyramid is a lie all the way up to its hyperdimensional peak. The higher up the pyramid the more sophisticated the garments of deception.

 

[Jeremy F Kreuz]

After reading parallax post I am wondering that if it is true that there is a 40 year long use of those tactics what role Chomsky consciously plays in the ponerization of the society. Could it be he is a spellbinder? I searched the forum and there is another thread in the forum that might put some light on this possibility Barrett Outs Chomsky

from Norma Regula

Chomsky's asking for privacy in a matter detrimental to Dr. Barrett's credibility is like the psychopath who demands forgiveness...and for the forgiving party never to divulge the ugly details lest it harm "their credibility." Yeah, right. Wonder if Chomsky will make the privacy request the "real" issue, trying to obscure the truth with outraged cries of being betrayed?

from Appollynon

The tone of the responces he was sending as well gave me the chills, as for me it has the flavour of the type of double talk, deliberate manipulation of the facts and cold detachment from reality that an obviously intelligent man (which I believe he is after reading some of his work) should know far better than to use. This then suggests to me that he knows full well what he is doing and makes a conscious choice to choose his path of deception and lies, knowing full well he is doing it.

I think his mask of sanity is being slowly chipped away.

from Name

given his vast previous work and his label as a "dissident" (nobody with an address @mit.edu is a true dissident IMO), would NC fall under the classification of a spellbinder ?

 

[seek10]

I nearly choked down my ciggie when I heard this!

After waffling on for a few minutes [something about the letters columns in scientific papers?!] he finishes with:

"And even if it were true [that 9/11 was an insider job], which is extremely unlikely... who cares? I mean, it doesn't have any significance. It's a bit like the huge energy that's put out on trying to figure out who killed JFK. Who cares? Plenty of people get killed all the time. Why does it matter that one of them happened to be JFK? If there was some reason to believe that there was a high-level conspiracy, I'd be interested... Eh, but the evidence against that is just overwhelming."

True, JFK's was only another in a long line of death and destruction at the hands of psychopaths. 9/11 was 'just' the latest horrific state terrorist attack. However, as someone who lived through both these events, from a psychological point of view, they clearly haven't affected you in the same way as most...

I listen to his radio interviews while driving as ami goodman often interviews him. His opposition to the empire was clear, but there is a flavor to his talk. They all sound like more academia style . Of course he is a professor in highly reputed university, but there is a style of complicating the verbage which is common in industry. I end up ask why is he doing this despite his outstanding claims?. If he is so hurtful to the empire, why does empire even allow him to still work in that university ?.

meat robot said it beautifully

While Chomsky acts as a soothing balm for so-called "intellectuals" on the so-called “left” to bask in and share with each other in "we are so much smarter than all those teeming hordes" circle jerks, it does appear as though his conscience seems to extend only into crimes that have already occurred long ago and have nothing to do with his beloved Israel.

When the denizens and citizens of western countries who have used the 9/11 psyop to further their profiteer and Zionist agendas repeat the mantra that:
9/11 CHANGED EVERYTHING... and use that day as a springboard to commit atrocities for Israel or corporate profit - It really and truly DOES matter who pulled it off and how.

That day was tailor made to created a new disposable sub-human in the savaged minds of western "consumers".
The Transmarginal Inhibition allowed for the lands and lives of EVERY Muslim to become the acceptable targets of the Western military industrial behemoth and all the corporatist parasites that swim in its bloody wake.

I have learned much about history from old Noam, but the efficacy and integrity of much of what he has to say now (and then) must be viewed through the taint of his shocking apathy and calloused, heartless statements about that day and the powers that made it happen.

Like old Bibi Netanyahu, one of the founding fathers of the ridiculously titled, “War on Terror” who answered through a slip in his mask that 9/11 was “good for Israel”, Noam seems to have let slip in that statement quoted above.
Chomsky is yet another left gate keeper and a proud Zionist vectoring the energy and time of real truth seekers into an abyss dug well clear of any real, hard truth.

He is the “Bill Maher” of intellectual navel gazers.

 

[Laura]

I have to agree: Chomsky comes across as a creation of the philosophy exposed in Protocol 12.

 

[luke wilson]

A contradiction can not exist in reality. Not in part, nor in whole.

To believe in a contradiction is to abdicate your belief in the existence of the world around you and the nature of the things in it, to instead embrace any random impulse that strikes your fancy - to imagine something is real simply because you wish it were. A thing is what it is, it is itself. There can be no contradictions.

Faith is a device of self-delusion, a sleight of hand done with words and emotions founded on any irrational notion that can be dreamed up. Faith is the attempt to coerce truth to surrender to whim. In simple terms, it is trying to breathe life into a lie by trying to outshine reality with the beauty of wishes. Faith is the refuge of fools, the ignorant, and the deluded, not of thinking, rational men.

In reality, contradictions cannot exist. To believe in them you must abandon the most important thing you possess: your rational mind. The wager for such a bargain is your life. In such an exchange, you always lose what you have at stake.

This whole segment is wrong! Plain and simple! Faith is the refuge of fools, the ignorant and the deluded, not of thinking, rational men. Is this, some kind of propaganda mind control thing? By reading this I get the impression, that if somehow I attribute anything about me or how I function to 'faith' I am not a thinking rational man?? Isnt faith a necessary tool in the pursuit of knowledge and awareness? What do the C's have to say about faith? Do they dismiss it like, yah, you are stupid and irrational if you have faith. I think the important thing is to know what faith is. It has been co-opted to mean believing in a separate God or some religious propaganda stuff thus the PTB now can turn around and make people feel guilty for having faith in whatever shape or form it may come in, that is including real faith that can aid someone in there work.

With the contradiction cannot exist claim. Well, I dont know but I know we live in a strange universe and eventhough it makes sense, is there absolute proof that this statement holds true? I am just curious.

My whole take on this Noam chomsky thing, is eventhough I dont understand him to the level or degree that has been discussed here, I found myself thinking. Assume he knew or could formulate an argument that 9/11 was something other than what we are told, would he come out and directly say it and say it over and over again, add to that, would he come out and say it over and over again that the whole JFK thing had something more to it than just a lone gun man? For every action there is a reaction, atleast thats what they said at school, what would the powers that be, do to a certain chomsky when he says this? He had spent pretty much all his life, speaking out and educating people about propaganda and the Empire, now, maybe he hasnt done a pretty good job! But, then again who would do the perfect job and what constitutes the perfect job? He is just 1 man. Why is it that everyone speaking out or doing anything publicly that has any ability to get to a big audience is mostly considered somekind of disinformation artist or somekind of agent, from chomsky to alex jones to julian assange? Everyone!! No matter what they do, the mere facts they are 3 d human beings and are by definition limited will always mean there is a way they can be manipulated by a greater power than they are and that could be used to discredit them or anything. No one is perfect. I am sure if Laura and Ark went mainstream, that there would be people out there who would pick holes or formulate arguments left, right and centre about them that will aim to discredit them, but the truth still remains that the same way, Laura and Ark work to uncover the truth, so do these other people, atleast to some extent. That doesnt mean that they couldnt be used as some kind of portal as the Cs say, anyone and everyone can be used as a portal but, still, lets not be so absolute in our judgements and condemnation on people who are pretty much on the same path as what the forum is about. That is uncovering the truth and peeling through the layers. No one person or group can have a monopoly in this game or can peel through every single one layer by themselves without somekind of help, not in our 3D STS world!

I am sorry if this goes against what the thread is about.

 

[luke wilson]

Sorry for the double post. I just remembered what I thought when I watched acouple of noam chomsky's lecture.

The thought that entered my mind is, this guy actually has the ability to make a conspiracy not a conspiracy anymore because he formulates his arguments in such a way and with the data that makes it impossible to argue or disagree with what he is saying that one cant argue against the notion that there is indeed an empire and the empire commits all this atrocities that it says it stands against for but one thing. That coupled with his reputation and credibilty which he built before becoming a so called 'dissident' makes him a formidable foe. With other conspiracy theorists, they tend to bring there emotions into there arguments which then end up putting alot of people off the theories and they lack the reputation or credibility which works against them. So you can imagine a completely sleeping person listening to one of his lectures, they would be shaken up to atleast consider what he is saying as his arguments wont be seen as the ravings of a lunatic who just doesnt like the world or the west as compared to say, ALEX JONES who might come across as abit of a lunatic.

What he is good at is showing how 'CONTRADICTIONS' exist. How we can call them terrorists and not call ourselves terrorists for what we do to them. How we can say we are bringing democracy when infact we are bringing tyranny. How we can say, we are going to make them rich and better whilst infact we are going to do the opposite and the data shows we do the opposite of what we say we will do. And finally how it is, the majority can be so oblivious to this to the extent where they keep backing the same lies over and over and over again whilst saying they stand against these same very lies.

Who said contradictions dont exist? Well maybe they should look at the world!

 

[Richs]

Sorry for the double post. I just remembered what I thought when I watched acouple of noam chomsky's lecture.

The thought that entered my mind is, this guy actually has the ability to make a conspiracy not a conspiracy anymore because he formulates his arguments in such a way and with the data that makes it impossible to argue or disagree with what he is saying that one cant argue against the notion that there is indeed an empire and the empire commits all this atrocities that it says it stands against for but one thing. That coupled with his reputation and credibilty which he built before becoming a so called 'dissident' makes him a formidable foe. With other conspiracy theorists, they tend to bring there emotions into there arguments which then end up putting alot of people off the theories and they lack the reputation or credibility which works against them. So you can imagine a completely sleeping person listening to one of his lectures, they would be shaken up to atleast consider what he is saying as his arguments wont be seen as the ravings of a lunatic who just doesnt like the world or the west as compared to say, ALEX JONES who might come across as abit of a lunatic.

What he is good at is showing how 'CONTRADICTIONS' exist. How we can call them terrorists and not call ourselves terrorists for what we do to them. How we can say we are bringing democracy when infact we are bringing tyranny. How we can say, we are going to make them rich and better whilst infact we are going to do the opposite and the data shows we do the opposite of what we say we will do. And finally how it is, the majority can be so oblivious to this to the extent where they keep backing the same lies over and over and over again whilst saying they stand against these same very lies.

Who said contradictions dont exist? Well maybe they should look at the world!

Hi Luke,
I was going to respond in almost exactly the way you put it above, but I see you beat me to it!

It would be fair to say his main goal is to put people back to sleep. 'Contradictions don't exist' really is meant to say 'The official story is true because there can only be what we say it is'!

In your previous post you say:

the truth still remains that the same way, Laura and Ark work to uncover the truth, so do these other people, atleast to some extent. That doesnt mean that they couldnt be used as some kind of portal as the Cs say, anyone and everyone can be used as a portal but, still, lets not be so absolute in our judgements and condemnation on people who are pretty much on the same path as what the forum is about.

The problem I see with this idea is that the type of people you mention above are not really on the same path of those at this forum. When someone is willing to lie about even one thing that makes everything they say suspect. When it can be seen that they have a hidden agenda which is contrary to truth it must be pointed out because their lies and misdirections must be exposed by the light of truth so that others will not be fooled by them.

It is always a mistake to think that there is 'some good' in people who are obviously spreading lies and disinformation. There is an old saw about "If you can't say anything good about him, say nothing at all" which, of course, was propagated by those very same psychopathic people who are causing all the harm so that we would be embarassed to speak, or even think, anything which would cause some 'hurt' to these types of people. The only 'hurt' they actually feel is to be denied what they want.

 

[seek10]

parallax,
your sott article is great . It is right on target. I often confused by this tactics. Thank you for post.

On the topic of amy goodman, I haven't seen any thing concrete against her YET, though there are allegations of her being in PTB pay. Her fire house studio in NYC got acquired just week before 911,now she is more getting included in the Fox news networks after more than 8 yrs literal ban on her or her views. so, some thing is going on.

she does great job in giving voice to the topics MSM doesn't bother, goes around the country passionately promoting the activistic journalism, even recent NY101.5 FM radio leadership coup ( unfortunately won by the questionable leadership that includes michio kaku ) pushed her show from prime time to less than favorable time.

So much cointelpro to digest the games.