Off the grid power generation systems

[wanderer33]

Hello,

aside from two other projects.....at present I am working on an off the grid sustainable housing project. I am researching the utilities needed to
create a totally off the grid self contained dwelling. I have obtained all I need EXCEPT the power generation system which continues to frustrate the project.
The house itself is the best green dwelling available in Australia. I think.

I know that ARK has run a critical eye over such power systems as Tom Bearden's. I looked at a purported 'energy free' generator developed by two Australians, but this design is likely to have been plagiarised from an earlier British inventor. Also the proof testing is likely to have been conducted with similar errors as Bearden's project. The generator works on the principle of the magnetic moment for its operation.

This is a large site with a lot of intelligent people whose interests align with the idea of sustainable living....considering our possible future. Can anyone point me in the direction of the best practically viable system which they have encountered? Preferably an Australian design. I don't want to have to import a product if possible.

 

[wanderer33]

Another query.....

the discovery of the big star in the Tarantula nebula has baffled astrophysicists. They claimed that a star...any star could not be bigger than 150 times the size of our sun. Now isn't that the case because IF the sun was actually a hydrogen/fusion reaction then calculations suggest that the above statement is the case. So a theory of what our sun is from a physics perspective negated the possibility of the new sun's existence.

If that's the case, then the new sun's existence negates the astrophysical theory of the nature of our sun. Is that right?

 

[Lindenlea]

Hi Wanderer33,

I have a book titled Sustainable House by Michael Mobbs (first published in 1998), a Sydneyite who transformed his inner city terrace into a sustainable house, I'm not sure about being totally off the electricity grid as he was not supplying 100% when he wrote this book, but I think he may have an update of that book on the market. You can google his name for more up to date info.

There was another forum I used to visit where one of the members posted his concept of creating free electricity. The link is below, hope this is useful, though I don't know if it was a proven concept.

_http://tweleve.org/maranatha/24503-my-formula-intellectual-concept-free-electricity.html

My dream was to build a self sustaining house and permacultue garden on a block of land I have in the Northern Rivers, maybe I should just grow food the way things are going.

 

[RyanX]

Hello,

aside from two other projects.....at present I am working on an off the grid sustainable housing project. I am researching the utilities needed to
create a totally off the grid self contained dwelling. I have obtained all I need EXCEPT the power generation system which continues to frustrate the project.
The house itself is the best green dwelling available in Australia. I think.

I know that ARK has run a critical eye over such power systems as Tom Bearden's. I looked at a purported 'energy free' generator developed by two Australians, but this design is likely to have been plagiarised from an earlier British inventor. Also the proof testing is likely to have been conducted with similar errors as Bearden's project. The generator works on the principle of the magnetic moment for its operation.

This is a large site with a lot of intelligent people whose interests align with the idea of sustainable living....considering our possible future. Can anyone point me in the direction of the best practically viable system which they have encountered? Preferably an Australian design. I don't want to have to import a product if possible.

wanderer33,

Here is what I've seen as far as what Ark's written about Tom Bearden:

http://www.quantumfuture.net/quantum_future/thoughts_1.htm
http://www.quantumfuture.net/quantum_future/bearden.htm

As far as building an exotic energy generation system, I don't doubt these are possible, but I think you have to take a hard look at the possible consequences for using these. Also, since there are much easier and cheaper means to supply power on the market today, I think one really has to question oneself on why they would need a "hot rod" instead of just a "pinto" when it comes to energy systems. "Hot rods" tend to attract a lot of attention and in this case that attention may be from elite government types who really don't want to see anybody using anything other than the mandated power systems. Are you ready to go up against all of this? Could this personal energy be better spent doing other things?

I once was interested in this topic of sustainable building. I eventually came to the conclusion that a combination of systems would be best. Wind turbine, solar panels, plus a back-up generator powered by propane would probably be the best solution given the current state of technology for the DIY individual. Also, get the best batteries you can for electrical storage cause these seem to be the most common point of failure in these types of off-grid systems. The propane generator I think is key because dealing with propane tanks is a whole lot easier (and cleaner) than moving around gasoline. Plus, propane tanks are much more serviceable and common with the existing infrastructure.

These were my concluding thoughts after spending more time on this topic than I probably should have.

Good luck! :)

 

[combsbt]

...
I once was interested in this topic of sustainable building. I eventually came to the conclusion that a combination of systems would be best. Wind turbine, solar panels, plus a back-up generator powered by propane would probably be the best solution given the current state of technology for the DIY individual. Also, get the best batteries you can for electrical storage cause these seem to be the most common point of failure in these types of off-grid systems. The propane generator I think is key because dealing with propane tanks is a whole lot easier (and cleaner) than moving around gasoline. Plus, propane tanks are much more serviceable and common with the existing infrastructure.

I'll second this as the easiest way. I worked on a farm in Tennessee for a short time and they powered all the electrical needs with a wind generator and a rotating array of solar panels. It was enough power for the lighting and appliances in a kitchen, two yurts, and a biodiesel refinery. I believe they got the wind turbine from Africa, refurbished for a cheaper price than a new one. The back up generator sounds like a good idea too, especially considering there may be times when the sun is blocked out and the wind is low.

 

[rrraven]

have you looked into steam? if there is access to dead gumtrees you can generate a lot of energy from not that much wood
--http://www.strathsteam.com/ this is a SA mob that makes them
the steam has a lot of uses
there is DIY wind generators on the net as well

 

[D69]

I am working on my own projects , like cheap solar panels or cheap wind turbines.
But because of lack of time I am still way behind :/
In a spare time I`ll post my work and ideas here later.

 

[Ca.]

RyanX
July 31, 2010, 08:18:01 AM »

As far as building an exotic energy generation system, I don't doubt these are possible, but I think you have to take a hard look at the possible consequences for using these. Also, since there are much easier and cheaper means to supply power on the market today, I think one really has to question oneself on why they would need a "hot rod" instead of just a "pinto" when it comes to energy systems. "Hot rods" tend to attract a lot of attention and in this case that attention may be from elite government types who really don't want to see anybody using anything other than the mandated power systems. Are you ready to go up against all of this? Could this personal energy be better spent doing other things

Hi wanderer33, RyanX has made an important observation to take into consideration. Thinking like Benjamen Franklin by flying a kite during a thunder and lighting storm is going to get some attention. So what made the resistance successful during the war successful against the "Nazi's", was there ability to conceal the tools of the trade. Such as radio transmission equipment, and the need of a portable power supply. These were usually hand cranked units, using human mechanical power. So perhaps thoughts about power on a smaller scale might be a thought. Here are found two sites ,for yours and all consideration's in the freedom from the grid. As always working with any electrical issues would be approached with extreme caution for safety from electrocution as well as electrical radiation.

Here is a utube of the project on the ideas your thinking about.

Http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Bendini_SG

Open Mind with Bill Jenkins - John Bedini and Tom Bearden: Free Energy for All 2/14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7x8uxGhLWM

OFFICIAL BEDINI 10 COIL KIT INFOMERCIAl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA2KtZ45nXA

http://www.olive-drab.com/od_electronics_mep_handcranck.php

Military Hand Operated Electric Power Generators
One of the most interesting types of electrical generators used by the U.S. military is the hand cranked unit. The hand cranked generators disassemble and are light enough to be man-packed in a carrying bag or strapped on a packboard. The hand operated generator provides enough power for a small radio set, crypto gear, rechargeable batteries, and other electronic equipment in the field using a soldier's own muscles to rotate the generator. The clever and versitile hand cranked generators have been in use since before WW II and continue in use in the 21st century.

 

[Ca.]

Additional information on being self sufficient and off the grid from the system.

http://www.homesteadernews.com/solarwindpower.htm

TreehugerTV: Urban Homestead
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex2ye2AZR2k

How to have a home with no house payments and no utility bills!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJsDOD0dTQI

Off-grid
http://www.off-grid.net/

Additional links
http://www.homsteadernews.com/apps/links/

Off The Grid: Author Nick Rosens Book and youtube. It also has people's thoughts, ideas, approach, and of the reasoning of being off the grid. Interesting, given the current session of 7-22-10.

http://www.youtube.com/offgridnick