Oj Simpson - Part Deux

[Cyre2067]

Simpson named suspect in armed robbery

By KATHLEEN HENNESSEY and LINDA DEUTSCH, Associated Press Writers 14 minutes ago

LAS VEGAS - O.J. Simpson says he only went into a casino hotel room to retrieve memorabilia that he felt was stolen from him. But police are investigating it as an armed robbery and named the fallen football star as a suspect Friday in yet another surprising chapter to his legal saga.
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In an interview with The Associated Press, Simpson insisted there were no guns involved and he only went to the room at the Palace Station casino to retrieve stolen mementos that included his Hall of Fame certificate and a picture of the running back with J. Edgar Hoover.

"It's stolen stuff that's mine. Nobody was roughed up," Simpson told the AP.

Las Vegas Metro Police Capt. James Dillon said the confrontation was reported as an armed robbery involving guns. But he said no weapons had been recovered and stressed that the investigation was in its "infancy."

Simpson was questioned by police immediately after the incident late Thursday and a formal interview was being arranged, Dillon said. No charges had been filed and no one was in custody.

Simpson said auction house owner Tom Riccio called him several weeks ago to say some collectors "have a lot of your stuff and they don't want anyone to know they are selling it."

Simpson, who was in Las Vegas for a friend's wedding, said he arranged to meet Riccio at the hotel. Riccio had set up a meeting with collectors under the guise that he had a private collector interested in buying Simpson's items.

"We walked into the room," Simpson said in the telephone interview. "I'm the last one to go in and when they see me, it's all 'Oh God.'"

Simpson said he was accompanied by several men he met at a wedding cocktail party, and they took the collectibles.

Simpson said he wasn't sure where the items were taken.

Dillon said some of the items had been recovered. He did not specify which collectibles were located.

A message left for Riccio was not immediately returned.

Police spokesman Jose Montoya said when officers talked to Simpson, he "made the comment that he believed the memorabilia was his. We're getting conflicting stories from the two sides."

One of the collectors in the room was Alfred Beardsley, a real estate agent and longtime collector of Simpson memorabilia, some of which he has been ordered to turn over as part of the Goldman's lawsuit.

"I'm OK. I'm shaken up," Beardsley told the AP by phone, but wouldn't comment further, citing the police investigation.

Bruce Fromong, a collector who testified at Simpson's civil trial, said he was in the room when Simpson barged in with other men.

"Him and some of his guys come busting through the door," Fromong told the celebrity gossip site TMZ.com. "They came in with guns, hollering and screaming."

Fromong, who reportedly tried to sell the suit Simpson wore when he was acquitted of murder, described him as a former close friend and said he couldn't explain the behavior.

"O.J.'s in enough trouble. For him to come and do this kind of thing, I don't know what's wrong with O.J. This is stupidity."

Simpson is considered a suspect in the case, Montoya said. He was released after he and several associates were questioned, and he remained in Las Vegas.

"We don't believe he's going anywhere," Montoya said.

The Las Vegas district attorney's office will decide whether to pursue charges in the casino case.

The Heisman Trophy winner, ex-NFL star and actor lives near Miami and has been a tabloid staple since his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and her friend Ron Goldman were killed in 1994. Simpson was acquitted of murder charges, but a jury later held him liable for the killings in a wrongful death lawsuit.

Simpson has had to auction off his sports collectibles, including his Heisman Trophy, to pay some of the $33.5 million judgment awarded in the civil trial.

On Thursday, the Goldman family published a book about the killings that Simpson had written under the title, "If I Did It," about how he would have committed the crime had he actually done it. After a deal for Simpson to publish it fell through, a federal bankruptcy judge awarded the book's rights to the Goldman family, who retitled it "If I Did It: The Confessions of the Killer."

Fred Goldman, Ron's Goldman's father, said he was stunned by the news from Las Vegas.

"I'm overwhelmed and amazed," Fred Goldman told the AP. "If it turns out as it is currently being played, I think this shows more of who he is. He is proving over and over and over again that he thinks he can do anything and get away with it."

Goldman's lawyer, David Cook, said he would seek a court order on Tuesday to get whatever items Simpson took in Las Vegas.

The Palace Station, an aging property just west of the Las Vegas Strip, is one of several Station Casinos-owned resorts that cater to locals. The 1,000-room hotel-casino, with a 21-story tower and adjacent buildings, opened in 1976.

A company spokeswoman did not immediately return a call for comment.

Methinks he's a psychopath.

 

[NormaRegula]

Hmmm. Something must be up. Has OJ been brought out to garner some headlines and distract the populace from a real news story that might cause them to stir in their sleep? Perhaps Osama just didn't cut it.

Methinks he's a psychopath.

OJ does exhibit psychopathic traits, with his extreme ego, abusive nature, having no shame, it's never my fault whining, etc. being just the tip of the iceberg. (Some friends of mine are convinced he's been Greenbaumed.) Whatever the case, the guy garners way too much media attention. And, no matter how negative the post-Nicole/Ron Brown murder trial stories may be, OJ appears to enjoy the extra attention.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

In an intro psych course at university we were shown an episode of David Suzuki's "The Nature of Things" on psychopaths. One of the FBI experts (not Hare) used OJ as an example of psychopathy, so I don't think you're too far off!

 

[Hildegarda]

Methinks he's a psychopath.

Somebody says it here in print. Although 'sociopath' isn't the same as a 'psychopath', Simpson IMO falls into a wide zone where the two interlap:

What, you're surprised by this? You needed yet more evidence that a sociopath just doesn't get it?

In the years since his acquittal, O.J. Simpson — best-selling author of If I Did It — has taken time from his Percival-like search for his ex-wife's real killers for intermittent brushes with the law. These incidents, catalogued in the Los Angeles Times, include allegations of domestic violence, road rage, money-laundering and trafficking in Ecstasy. Each of the various investigations came to naught. The sole finding of guilt against O.J. was a $130 fine for speeding in a power boat through a Florida manatee zone.

But now he's in real trouble, having defiled yet another football Sunday with news of his arrest in Las Vegas on charges related to an alleged armed robbery. At this point, Las Vegas police believe two sports memorabilia dealers — Alfred Beardsley and Bruce Fromong — were robbed at gunpoint Thursday in the Palace Station Hotel and Casino.

the rest is here (\\http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7233976?MSNHPHCP&GT1=10437), and goes onto other things.

But note the list of his extensive troubles with the law, and how little he has been penalized for them. He is either charming his way out of things or seriously protected, most likely both.

 

[John G]

Methinks he's a psychopath.

Somebody says it here in print. Although 'sociopath' isn't the same as a 'psychopath', Simpson IMO falls into a wide zone where the two interlap:

the rest is here (\\http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7233976?MSNHPHCP&GT1=10437), and goes onto other things.

But note the list of his extensive troubles with the law, and how little he has been penalized for them. He is either charming his way out of things or seriously protected, most likely both.

Speaking of Fox, Bill O'Reilly of all people mentioned Simpson as a sociopath too. He even mentioned that 4% of the population are sociopaths. If only the general population would think more about what that really means, and it really wouldn't matter if they thought 4% sociopaths instead of 6% psychopaths, the message would still be the same. One out of 25 or one out of 16 of all the people you meet is going to be Simpson or worse. That should scare everybody even O'Reilly (if he isn't one of them)... and if they then extrapolate from how Simpson makes the system work for him to all the other "Simpsons" making the system work for them, they should really wonder what kind of system we have. It should also trouble people that Simpson publicly seemed like such a good role model for much of his life.

 

[Jansinnet]

& he is out of jail. Bart Simpson remains.

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[ScioAgapeOmnis]

John, I think that's a great example of how psychopathy is staring people in the face, how they've been supporting and adoring people who are in reality murdering psychopaths who lie, cheat, steal, kill, exploit and manipulate everything around them to their advantage, and even when they ARE exposed, people don't reflect on how they could've seen this person as a role model, how they could fall for this for so long. And how many more that have not been exposed are there! I mean, honestly, while the research into psychopathy is invaluable, the reality of psychopaths is not really that hard to see - examples such as OJ are all over the place, people just don't think, don't "make the connection", don't reflect - they just go back to their dream world without even considering the implications of what is transpiring right in front of them.

And I think that's the sad thing, not that people don't "do the research" - but that they're not seeing what is literally in front of their faces! It's no wonder the C's said only about 12% of Americans think. It really can't be much more than that, if it was, psychopaths wouldn't last long at all. So the goal of psychopaths isn't just to lie and manipulate, they have to make sure we swallow the lies and accept the manipulation. But how? By doing everything in their power to prevent us from thinking - to kill thought. And this is seen in every corner of our society and how its setup. Thought is only allowed when it's within strict parameters - like your job. We're kept busy with our jobs, with our "entertainment", with everything and anything that can keep us busy and distracted. Then we're given poisons to numb our minds directly - from food and drinks, to things like flouride in our drinking water, to anti-smoking campaign, to poison medications, etc.

So the battle is being waged against us on ALL fronts from every angle. And that's in the "modernized" countries. What about everyone else? Well everyone else is basically deprived of the very bare necessities for life, that they're basically just struggling to survive and have no time to even consider anything else. And in both, the "modernized" countries and 3rd world constant wars are waged. Bread and circuses are abundant. Sex industry is in overdrive. Drugs are passed around as candy to help people "escape the horrors of the world". Religions and other "belief systems" are common as dirt. All the language is corrupted and perverted and pathocracized. Nobody can even communicate and understand anything in any objective way. And soooo much more, ALL of which just keeps us firmly struggling and sleeping.

I mean I know this forum is aware of all this, but really, if you put it all together, it is a very verry grim situation. There's just SO MUCH to address! The psychopaths have covered as many angles as they could think of. Good thing they left plenty of evidence of it all scattered everywhere you look, they're just betting that their excellent thought-suppression techniques will prevent us from looking at this evidence and being able to show it to others. Thank the lord for wishful thinking eh?

 

[Kieran]

And I think that's the sad thing, not that people don't "do the research" - but that they're not seeing what is literally in front of their faces! It's no wonder the C's said only about 12% of Americans think. It really can't be much more than that, if it was, psychopaths wouldn't last long at all.

I really think we are fighting a losing battle Scio.

Since I began to really ‘wake up’ in a completely new way (I had been a ‘new age’ truth seeker since the 60s!) after 911, and have followed through such a volume of information and understandings, and ultimately ended up at SOTT – and eventually bought and read all the books offered here – plus many other avenues of enquiry …

… guess what?

Well … like many people here have commented in various posts … I now can’t talk to anybody!

Even my family!

I have tried and tried … and met with denial, the parroting of institutionalised lies, and open anger and hostility.

That experience in itself is a pretty convincing lesson in what many teachers have told us.

MOST PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH!

They are simply not ready for it. They actually cannot ‘digest’ it, anymore than a sheep could digest a rump steak garnished with a ‘creamy garlic and onion sauce’! They do not yet have the ‘internal organ’ necessary.

We need patience with those who simply cannot yet wake up. We need compassion.

And sometimes, for ourselves, we need to smile …

… one of the books I obtained from SOTT is called ‘Essays On Life’ by Scott Ogrin, Joe Quinn and Henri Sy. It is available in the SOTT bookstore.

This book is a superb collection of essays on all the subjects that are discussed in the SOTT forum, and I thoroughly recommend anyone to purchase it who has not done so.

Within the book is the reproduction of an anonymous online posting called ‘Thinking.’

I so enjoyed thinking around this poignantly humorous post that I scanned it and, over time, expanded on it.

I hope Scott, Joe and Henri will forgive me for including my ‘expanded’ version here:

The Dangers of Heavy Thinking

By an ex-heavy thinker who wishes to remain anonymous

It started out innocently enough...

I began to think at parties now and then – just to loosen up.

Inevitably, though, one thought led to another, and soon I was more than just a ‘social thinker.’ I began to think alone - 'to relax', I told myself - but I knew it wasn't true. Thinking became more and more important to me, and finally I was thinking all the time.

That was when things began to sour at home. One evening I turned off the TV and asked my partner about the meaning of life. That was the first of many nights she spent at her mother's!

I began to think on the job. I knew that thinking and employment don't mix, but I couldn't stop myself. I began to disappear into the ‘library’ at lunch time so I could read Thoreau and Kafka.

I would return to the office dizzied and confused, and asking, 'What is it exactly we are doing here?' One day the boss called me in.

He said, 'Listen, I like you, and it hurts me to say this, but your thinking has become a real problem. If you don't stop thinking on the job, you'll have to find another job.' That gave me a lot to think about.

I came home early after my conversation with the boss. 'Honey,' I confessed, 'I've been thinking...'

'I know you've been thinking', she said, 'and I want a divorce!'

'But Honey, surely it's not that serious.'

'YES IT IS SERIOUS!', she screamed, lower lip aquiver. 'You’re thinking now as much as a college professor, and college professors don't make any money. And if you keep on thinking like this, WE won't have any money!'

'That's a faulty syllogism', I said impatiently.

She exploded in tears of rage and frustration, but I was in no mood to deal with the emotional drama.

'I'm going to the library', I snarled as I stomped out the door.

I headed for the library, in the mood for some strong Nietzsche, or even just a philosophical treatise, or a short critical essay!.

I roared into the parking lot, leapt out of the car, and ran up to the big glass doors.

They didn't open. The library was closed. I had reached the absolute nadir of my life...

To this day, I believe that a Higher Power was looking out for me that night.

As I sank to the ground, clawing at the unfeeling glass, whimpering for a copy of Zarathustra, a poster caught my eye.

'Friend, is heavy thinking ruining your life?' it asked.

You probably recognize that line. It comes from the standard Thinker's Anonymous poster. Which is why I am what I am today: a recovering thinker.

Now I never miss a TA meeting.

At each meeting we watch a non-educational video; last week it was Porky's.

Then we share experiences about how we avoided thinking since the last meeting.

Our motto is 'never have an original thought in your head’, and we take it one step at a time.

I am now at a point where I can deny cause and effect, thoughtlessly debunk ‘cutting edge’ scientific discoveries, ignore critical analyses on any topic, and say a polite ‘no thank you’ to offered logic.

Instead, I now idolize industry and business and commerce, the media, and all forms of entertainment (as long as it is ‘think free’ and trivial) and always think I am the only one who is right...

I have a firm faith that my Government, Church and Employer are looking after me and are really concerned about me, and that they are God's rule on earth.

Luckily I found Thinker’s Anonymous and began recovery before I had lost my job. In fact, my change of attitude has even resulted in a promotion and a commensurate pay increase!

And things are a lot better at home.

Then the real turning point came for me. A real ‘Damascus Road’ kind of experience! I simply realised one morning as I walked across the car park to my office, how much easier life is when one simply STOPS THINKING!

I want to shout it from the rooftops to all the heavy thinkers still suffering needlessly out there. I want to shout: “You can stop! Millions of people just like you live their whole lives without ever thinking! Without ever feeling the need to think! You can too! Life can become good again! Put all the despair behind you now!”

But, I realise sadly, that it is the ‘heavy thinker’ himself who must take the first step toward giving up thinking if he ever wants to experience a comfortable, thoughtless state of mind again!

And for myself? … Well, I think the road to recovery is nearly complete for me…

… today, I registered to vote!

Kieran

 

[ScioAgapeOmnis]

I really think we are fighting a losing battle Scio.

But the battle is for our souls. We're not fighting against the system, this is pointless, we're simply working towards our own destiny. Just doing what's in us to do - what else can we do?

MOST PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH!

True, but neither did you or I for a good while. So if something made us start looking, there's no reason there aren't others who are "on the verge" and just need to be exposed to the right material, the right (objective) approach. Perhaps they just need validation from an external source that it's OK to seek truth and ask serious questions, that it's OK to not believe their sacred cows and religions. Sometimes that's all someone needs. The conditioning that all this is "not ok" is pretty powerful.

They are simply not ready for it. They actually cannot ‘digest’ it, anymore than a sheep could digest a rump steak garnished with a ‘creamy garlic and onion sauce’! They do not yet have the ‘internal organ’ necessary.

Well I'm not sure that's necessarily true - here I think you're talking about psychopaths and perhaps Organic Portals. But again, while you were obsessed with your new age delusions, could you not also be described as not having this "internal organ"? And if you did have it and weren't using it, you'd be acting just like those who literally don't have it - as you, I, and probably all of us have done before we began any sort of waking up. For all intents and purposes there is no difference between having the "organ" and not having it. The only difference is in potential. But how many people out there have the potential? And how many can one day be triggered, either by a strong enough shock, or a bankrupt state, to consider actualizing this potential? I don't know, the future is open. It can be none, or it can be lots of people. But all I can say is, it's not a losing battle if you just keep on learning and growing, and helping others do the same. You can't "lose" if you don't anticipate an outcome, if you just do what's in you to do. If it's in you to point out lies and share truth, then do that. Maybe others join you. How many others - well that's open.

 

[Ca.]

Working girls at Bunny Ranch brothel threaten to quit if O.J. Simpson hired Video
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Carson City NV. O.J. Simpson’s first post-prison job offer hit a snag when some of his potential co-workers threaten to quit.

The working girls at Nevada’s famed Bunny Ranch definitely have some standards, and they don’t like the idea that their boss wants to give Simpson a second chance by letting him work as a greeter at their brothel, TMZ reported.

Following the decision by the Nevada authorities to grant Simpson parole, Bunny Ranch owner Denis Hof told TMZ he would be happy give the disgraced NFL star and accused double-murderer a job. With the job also came the invitation for Simpson to live on the property.

The 70-year-old Simpson was granted parole Thursday after more than eight years in prison for a Las Vegas hotel heist. The decision means Simpson could be out of prison as early as Oct. 1. Hof thought his Carson City establishment would be the perfect place for Simpson to get his life back together after leaving prison.

“One of the conditions of a prisoner being granted parole is always having an established place to live and a job to go to, and I can offer O.J. both of those in a unique situation,” Hof told TMZ.

Of course, it’s hard to imagine that the parole board would look kindly on one of their charges getting a job and home at a brothel. But then there is the issue that Simpson’s prospective co-workers would quit.

Their objections are understandable given that questions still persist over Simpson’s acquittal in the 1994 knife murder of his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ronald Goldman. But the women have other concerns as well:

“The last thing we need is another link to the Kardashian clan coming around to ruin our business, and jeopardize our safety,” professional sex worker Brooklyn Moore told TMZ.

She was apparently referring to Khloe Kardashian’s ex-husband Lamar Odom, who overdosed and nearly died at another establishment owned by Hof, the Love Ranch brothel in Pahrump. Simpson was represented by Khloe’s father Robert Kardashian in his 1995 murder trial.

Despite the insurrection, Hof said his job offer to Simpson stands.

The (Psychopath) O J Simpson Tapes (39:54)
Mar 30, 2017
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