Origin of certain sayings

treesparrow

The Living Force
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Received the following email today -

THIS IS A REAL EDUCATION
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> Where did "Piss Poor" come from?
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> Interesting History.
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> They used to use urine to tan animal skins, so families used to all pee in a pot
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> And then once it was full it was taken and sold to the tannery...
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> if you had to do this to survive you were "Piss Poor".
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> But worse than that were the really poor folk who couldn't even afford to buy a pot...
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> They "didn't have a pot to piss in" and were the lowest of the low.
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> The next time you are washing your hands and complain because the water temperature
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> Isn't just how you like it, think about how things used to be.
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> Here are some facts about the 1500s
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> Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May,
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> And they still smelled pretty good by June. However, since they were starting to smell,
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> Brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor.
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> Hence the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting married.
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> Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water.
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> The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water,
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> Then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children.
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> Last of all the babies.
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> By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it.
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> Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the Bath water!"
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> Houses had thatched roofs-thick straw-piled high, with no wood underneath.
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> It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the cats and other small animals
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> (mice, bugs) lived in the roof.
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> When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof.
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> Hence the saying, "It's raining cats and dogs."
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> There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house.
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> This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings
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> Could mess up your nice clean bed.
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> Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection.
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> That's how canopy beds came into existence.
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> The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt.
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> Hence the saying, "Dirt poor." The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery
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> In the winter when wet, so they spread thresh (straw) on floor to help keep their footing.
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> As the winter wore on, they added more thresh until, when you opened the door,
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> It would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entrance-way.
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> Hence: a thresh hold.
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> (Getting quite an education, aren't you?)
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> In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire.
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> Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly vegetables
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> And did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers
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> In the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day.
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> Sometimes stew had food in it that had been there for quite a while.
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> Hence the rhyme:
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> “Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old”.
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> Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special.
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> When visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off.
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> It was a sign of wealth that a man could, "bring home the bacon."
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> They would cut off a little to share with guests
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> And would all sit around and chew the fat.
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> Those with money had plates made of pewter.
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> Food with high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning death.
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> This happened most often with tomatoes,
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> so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.
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> Bread was divided according to status.
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> Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle,
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> and guests got the top, or the upper crust.
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> Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky.
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> The combination would sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days.
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> Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial.
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> They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around
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> and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up.
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> Hence the custom; “of holding a wake”.
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> England is old and small and the local folks started running out of places to bury people.
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> So they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a bone-house, and reuse the grave.
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> When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realized they had been burying people alive.
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> So they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell.
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> Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the graveyard shift.) to listen for the bell; thus, someone could be,
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> “saved by the bell” or was "considered a dead ringer”.
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> And that's the truth.
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> Now, whoever said History was boring!!!
 
Dawn said:
Wow these were really interesting! Thanks treesparrow!

Yes, they would be if all it took to make something true was for it to sound plausible.
 
Megan said:
Dawn said:
Wow these were really interesting! Thanks treesparrow!

Yes, they would be if all it took to make something true was for it to sound plausible.


That was a fun read, but I too questioned the authenticity. Here is an excellent debunking/corrected version from The Phrase Finder, which appears to be a most interesting site dedicated to accurate phrase origin discussion:

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/life%20in%20the%201500s.html
Disclaimer - Read Me First:

The message below contains several false attributions of the origin of some common English phrases. It began circulating on the Internet in April 1999, under the heading of "Life in the 1500s".

These attributions are false, lacking evidence or credibility and were almost certainly made up by whoever posted that message. My comments disputing, debunking and generally dismissing these myths are added to the text in [square brackets].

(continues)
 
This particular message seems to have been compiled from several others already in circulation including "Life in the 1500's." I checked it using Snopes.com.
 
I think this is a really interesting topic and it has been coming up more and more in conversation lately with me and my friends. Rather than the history of certain phrases, we have been looking at how there is hidden meaning behind every word we say. I know laura has covered this extensively and it is so easy to see when you look out for it, so I thought I would put a little list of my own on this thread of phrases which seem to say a lot about the subconscious of our time and humanity in general....

What's the point? (What can I learn from this? - What will I see when I can see this situation as a point? I can't see the point!)

Oh my god! (when somebody/something causes a change in your inner universe)

What's up?

Can you imagine.....?

Does it matter? (Does it collapse into matter?? That doesn't matter....that doesn't collapse into matter in my universe)

Do you understand the gravity of the situation????

Etc etc etc...
 
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